Re: starting children on diet- any tips?

[Guest guest]

I use frontier brand yeast flakes. My son loves them and eats them

straight. They kind of taste like cheese and you can sprinkle them on food.

I don't know how old your daughter is, but when my son was younger, 4 or

so, I would buy tiny gel caps at http://www.capsuline.com/. I would open

the larger capsules and stuff the contents into the smaller ones that he

was able to swallow. As he got older I would buy larger capsules. Now he he

is almost 7 and can take an adult size pill so I don't have to do that as much.

Irene

At 08:45 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote:

>can you parents share with me how you are doing the supplements for your

>younger children. I read Bee's info, but I am still confused as to what

>to buy. I looked for liquid supplements but they all seem to have the

>wrong stuff in them. Can you share what brands you use and how you

>administer them?

>I read that nutritional yeast flakes can be used for the b's- isn't this a

>form of 'yeast'? I'm confused because I thought we couldnt have anything

>that contained 'yeast' as an ingredient?

>

>My daughter seems to be suffering from a lot of die-off today. Today is

>day 4. I gave her an epsom salt bath and she was a billion times better!

>

>Thanks a million!

>-Sara

>

>

[Guest guest]

wow Irene- stuffing those little capsules sounds like such a pain!  Thanks for

the idea though- I am obviously willing to do whatever it takes.

I bought the red star nutritional yeast today- so that will take care of the

B's.  I used to put it on popcorn for the children- I'll find something else to

put it on.  Since it does taste like cheese, I'm sure they'll like it

I'm going to look into the tiny capsules- my daughter is 2.5 and my son is 5.5-

I'm not sure if they will be able to swallow them (my son has sensory issues and

has problems 'eating' things that are not the 'correct' consistency so I am not

sure how willing he will be).

thanks,

Sara

>can you parents share with me how you are doing the supplements for your

>younger children. I read Bee's info, but I am still confused as to what

>to buy. I looked for liquid supplements but they all seem to have the

>wrong stuff in them. Can you share what brands you use and how you

>administer them?

>I read that nutritional yeast flakes can be used for the b's- isn't this a

>form of 'yeast'? I'm confused because I thought we couldnt have anything

>that contained 'yeast' as an ingredient?

>

>My daughter seems to be suffering from a lot of die-off today. Today is

>day 4. I gave her an epsom salt bath and she was a billion times better!

>

>Thanks a million!

>-Sara

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

With the oily vitamins (A,D,E) we give them to our son and let him

bite and then suck the oil out. He used to spit the caplet out, but

now, he tends to swallow them.

For the other vitamins, we measure out how much he needs and then

grind them in a coffee grinder. We usually blend this with his

foods - like chili or tomato sauce - or in the morning with his eggs,

we put the correct measurement on his plate and pour some melted

butter over the grind and stir it up to make a paste that he eats

with his eggs.

For the B vitamins, we use yeast flakes and blend it with his food.

It's really good over pureed cauliflower. Don't worry, if you are

using nutritional yeast flakes, they are not the bad kind of yeast

that we are suffering from and won't feed the yeast in our bodies.

Frontier and Red Star are good brands in North America.

>

>

> can you parents share with me how you are doing the supplements for

your younger children.  I read Bee's info, but I am still confused as

to what to buy.  I looked for liquid supplements  but they all seem

to have the wrong stuff in them.  Can you share what brands you use

and how you administer them? <snip>

> I read that nutritional yeast flakes can be used for the b's- isn't

this a form of 'yeast'?  I'm confused because I thought we couldnt

have anything that contained 'yeast' as an ingredient?

>  

> My daughter seems to be suffering from a lot of die-off today. 

Today is day 4.  I gave her an epsom salt bath and she was a billion

times better! 

>  

> Thanks a million!

> -Sara

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> >Thanks , and Irene for your responses on this

topic. I am looking for tips too. I started all 4 of my children on

GAPS diet in October. My 15 year old and 9 year old had eczema and

rash reactions. I think it was so bad because of the probiotic with

started out with and not enough good fats.

>

> My 9 year old had terrible bleeding eczema on his hands to over a

month and bad cough for over a month. Now has had terrible cracking

bleeding lips for over a month. He has his hands on the constantly

and complains a lot. We have put coconut oil, butter, duck fat, cod

liver oil, now shark liver oil on them without much help. He has been

off fruit for 3 or 4 weeks but still has some navy beans, butternut

squash, raw veggies and nuts. I have also had all the kids on

probiotics since Oct.

>

> Should I take him off the probiotics? I use Klare labs and I have

had friends who's kids skin problems are much improved with these

probiotics.

+++Hi Doris. I recommend you apply cod liver oil consistently long

enough to help him, and not keep changing the treatment.

Unfortunately, there aren't any quick fixes. Your 9 year old should

also be changed over to this diet completely.

+++Are your friend's kids on this program?

+++As I've written before, antifungals and probiotics aren't as

important as the diet and supplements (of course including coconut

oil). It's nutrients that will build up the immune system. The body

is smart enough to create its own probiotics when the immune system

is built up enough. So, yes, it is advisable to take your whole

family off of probiotics.

>

> I have two children and my husband eating the yogurt I make from

raw milk. They also eat fruit.

++++It would be easier for all of you if you all made the transition

to this diet, so foods that aren't allowed are not available in your

home.

<snip>

> He is on nutritional yeast flakes, vit. C, MAg/calcium, niacin, cod

liver oil, vit. E, fish oil

+++He should not be taking both fish oil and cod liver oil - please

review this article so you understand the difference, and when you

take fish oil plus vitamin A, and when you take only cod liver oil

(plus extra supplements of vitamin A, depending upon the brand):

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cod2.php

He has about 2 Tbsp. of coconut oil and 1 tsp of butter. ( I had him

off dairy so I am adding butter back in.)

+++I suggest you back off on the amount of coconut oil, so his

symptoms aren't so bad. Give him 1/4 or 1/2 tsp. per day and

gradually increase it, and the same with butter since it is also

antifungal. It will also help him a lot to be off probiotics, and to

get more onto my diet.

> One more problem for us is mold. I am extremely sensitive to mold

toxins and went to a Dr. Shoemaker last year. From blood tests he

wanted to treat my 9 year old to with Questran (cholestyramine-

CSM). It works to get the toxins out of your body and some

> people it really helps. It is hard on the digestive track so I

tried it but I didn't want to put my kids on it. We had mold

remediation done on our home last winter but now I notice a problem

with water forming icicles forming from under our aluminum siding on

the outside wall of my son's bedroom. I am having that looked into

but I don't know if there is mold growing in that wall. Could this

prevent his healing from going forward.

+++I'm glad you didn't give your kids Questran! As you know this

program gets out toxins most effectively, and even chelates out heavy

metals.

+++Molds can cause problems for some people, but if you cannot see

water or mold inside his room I wouldn't be concerned. I think your

son's symptoms will be less severe if you do as I suggest above.

Keep us posted on how things are going.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Here is a recipe link for Bee's Custard:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe283.php

and Chai Delight Custard:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe285.php

If you type " gelatin " on the search button for this forum you can find

the brand name of the gelatin that Bee recommends. I'm sure it's on

the main website too, but it's been discussed quite a bit on the forum

so it might be easier to find here.

Jammie

>

> I think this is where I saw a recipe for flan.  I would greatly

appreciate it if someone could send it to me for the family.

>  

> Thank you, Gloria

[Guest guest]

-

thank you so much for sharing your vitamin tips- you make it sound so much

easier than I have been thinking- I'll get them going on the rest of the supps

today! 

-Sara

From: hjacksic <oxhahxo@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: starting children on diet- any tips?

Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 12:25 AM

Hi Sara,

With the oily vitamins (A,D,E) we give them to our son and let him

bite and then suck the oil out. He used to spit the caplet out, but

now, he tends to swallow them.

For the other vitamins, we measure out how much he needs and then

grind them in a coffee grinder. We usually blend this with his

foods - like chili or tomato sauce - or in the morning with his eggs,

we put the correct measurement on his plate and pour some melted

butter over the grind and stir it up to make a paste that he eats

with his eggs.

For the B vitamins, we use yeast flakes and blend it with his food.

It's really good over pureed cauliflower. Don't worry, if you are

using nutritional yeast flakes, they are not the bad kind of yeast

that we are suffering from and won't feed the yeast in our bodies.

Frontier and Red Star are good brands in North America.

>

>

> can you parents share with me how you are doing the supplements for

your younger children.  I read Bee's info, but I am still confused as

to what to buy.  I looked for liquid supplements  but they all seem

to have the wrong stuff in them.  Can you share what brands you use

and how you administer them? <snip>

> I read that nutritional yeast flakes can be used for the b's- isn't

this a form of 'yeast'?  I'm confused because I thought we couldnt

have anything that contained 'yeast' as an ingredient?

>  

> My daughter seems to be suffering from a lot of die-off today. 

Today is day 4.  I gave her an epsom salt bath and she was a billion

times better! 

>  

> Thanks a million!

> -Sara

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I tried the egg custard recipe, using Bernard Jensen's gelatin and the recipe

did not turn out.  I think I might've used too much water, so I will have to try

again.  It was runny and not custardy.

 

Thought I saw something about flan.  Maybe, I miss understood.

 

Thank you,

 

Gloria

From: pljammie <pljammie@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: starting children on diet- any tips?

Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 2:28 PM

Here is a recipe link for Bee's Custard:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/recipes/ recipe283. php

and Chai Delight Custard:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/recipes/ recipe285. php

If you type " gelatin " on the search button for this forum you can find

the brand name of the gelatin that Bee recommends. I'm sure it's on

the main website too, but it's been discussed quite a bit on the forum

so it might be easier to find here.

Jammie

>

> I think this is where I saw a recipe for flan.  I would greatly

appreciate it if someone could send it to me for the family.

>  

> Thank you, Gloria

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

Glad I could help! My husband does the measuring of the dry vitamins

because I *cannot* do math to save my life! LOL! He's the

math/chemistry whiz of the family.

>

> -

> thank you so much for sharing your vitamin tips- you make it sound so

much easier than I have been thinking- I'll get them going on the rest

of the supps today! 

> -Sara

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gloria- if you check the messages you'll find one that posted just a

couple days ago (it's in this thread) - she shared the flan recipe using squash

and eggs- it's really yummy!

 

-Sara

From: pljammie <pljammie (DOT) com>

Subject: [ ] Re: starting children on diet- any tips?

Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 2:28 PM

Here is a recipe link for Bee's Custard:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/recipes/ recipe283. php

and Chai Delight Custard:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/recipes/ recipe285. php

If you type " gelatin " on the search button for this forum you can find

the brand name of the gelatin that Bee recommends. I'm sure it's on

the main website too, but it's been discussed quite a bit on the forum

so it might be easier to find here.

Jammie

>

> I think this is where I saw a recipe for flan.  I would greatly

appreciate it if someone could send it to me for the family.

>  

> Thank you, Gloria

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

 

Thanks, I know, I can't seem to find the flan recipe anywhere.  Do you have it? 

I would love to try it for my family.

 

Thanks, look forward to hearing from you.

 

Gloria

From: pljammie <pljammie (DOT) com>

Subject: [ ] Re: starting children on diet- any tips?

Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 2:28 PM

Here is a recipe link for Bee's Custard:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/recipes/ recipe283. php

and Chai Delight Custard:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/recipes/ recipe285. php

If you type " gelatin " on the search button for this forum you can find

the brand name of the gelatin that Bee recommends. I'm sure it's on

the main website too, but it's been discussed quite a bit on the forum

so it might be easier to find here.

Jammie

>

> I think this is where I saw a recipe for flan.  I would greatly

appreciate it if someone could send it to me for the family.

>  

> Thank you, Gloria

[Guest guest]

> >

> >Thanks Bee,

I am keeping up with the cod liver oil on his lips and they actually looked a

little better

today.

I agree it would be easier having the whole family on the diet. I had my

husband read a

post from one of the other women posting and he agreed but he thought it applied

to the

kids. He still thought maybe he would go off fruit but the yogurt and large

amounts of

soaked and dried nuts,(1 cup a day) and store nutbutter would be O.K. for him.

He also

eats a lot of carrot sticks, celery.

He would rather pick the GAPS diet to follow because he is always one to take

the easy

way out. When we started GAPS I sure didn't think it was easy. I guess we

needed that

step before we would be ready for this.

Doris

> >

> +++Hi Doris. I recommend you apply cod liver oil consistently long

> enough to help him, and not keep changing the treatment.

> Unfortunately, there aren't any quick fixes. Your 9 year old should

> also be changed over to this diet completely.

>

> snip>

>

> > I have two children and my husband eating the yogurt I make from

> raw milk. They also eat fruit.

>

> ++++It would be easier for all of you if you all made the transition

> to this diet, so foods that aren't allowed are not available in your

> home.

> <snip>

+++++I agree about everybody going on it.

> > He is on nutritional yeast flakes, vit. C, MAg/calcium, niacin, cod

> liver oil, vit. E, fish oil

>

> +++He should not be taking both fish oil and cod liver oil - please

> review this article so you understand the difference, and when you

> take fish oil plus vitamin A, and when you take only cod liver oil

> (plus extra supplements of vitamin A, depending upon the brand):

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cod2.php

>

> He has about 2 Tbsp. of coconut oil and 1 tsp of butter. ( I had him

> off dairy so I am adding butter back in.)

>

> +++I suggest you back off on the amount of coconut oil, so his

> symptoms aren't so bad. Give him 1/4 or 1/2 tsp. per day and

> gradually increase it, and the same with butter since it is also

> antifungal. It will also help him a lot to be off probiotics, and to

> get more onto my diet.

>

>

>

> +++I'm glad you didn't give your kids Questran! As you know this

> program gets out toxins most effectively, and even chelates out heavy

> metals.

>

> +++Molds can cause problems for some people, but if you cannot see

> water or mold inside his room I wouldn't be concerned. I think your

> son's symptoms will be less severe if you do as I suggest above.

>

> Keep us posted on how things are going.

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > >Thanks Bee,

> I am keeping up with the cod liver oil on his lips and they

actually looked a little better today.

+++Hi Doris. That is good news! It does take time for it to help.

>

> I agree it would be easier having the whole family on the diet. I

had my husband read a post from one of the other women posting and he

agreed but he thought it applied to the kids. He still thought

maybe he would go off fruit but the yogurt and large amounts of

soaked and dried nuts,(1 cup a day) and store nutbutter would be O.K.

for him. He also eats a lot of carrot sticks, celery.

> He would rather pick the GAPS diet to follow because he is always

one to take the easy way out. When we started GAPS I sure didn't

think it was easy. I guess we needed that step before we would be

ready for this.

+++I agree that the GAPS diet is a good transition to my program. If

your husband also takes the supplements I recommend it will help him

a lot too. Getting off fruit is most important, and eventually he

may see the wisdom of going off yogurt too. I think it is wonderful

you make raw yogurt and it is definitely good to eat when a person is

healthy. The foods and toxins that feed candida also feed other

bacteria, and even cancer, so it is wise to go on my diet. If it can

help autistic children, it can help anyone achieve good health.

+++It is most important your husband and children " buy into " the

common sense of this program too. That means educating them, and a

long enough transition so they gradually become accustomed to it,

until it is part of their daily routine. The tough part is because

healing creates symptoms that aren't easy to understand or accept.

+++I wish you the best Doris. It isn't easy to get a whole family

to " buy into " such a drastic change in their foods, and to take the

supplements needed. You are doing great so far, so keep up the great

work! You are such a good Mom and wife!

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

> > >Thanks for all your help Bee and others,

I had a talk with my sons (age 9 and 7) last night at bedtime because the 9 year

old was

again saying, " if this diet is good for you then why don't my lips get better? "

I explained

that there are good and bad bacteria and yeast in your gut and when you take

anitbiotics it

kills all of them. Then the bad ones start to take over when you feed them

fruit and carbs.

I said the reason his skin was worse was because the coconut oil he has been

having are

strengthening the good soldiers and now they are battling with the bad guys and

the bad

guy toxins are trying to escape and are coming out the skin. He asked why his

hands

were so bad a month a go but now his lips are worse. I said it is a war in

there. The

hands were a battle but the the good fats new battles are starting but the

coconut oil

soldiers will win in the end.

I hope that helped them.

Doris

> >

> +++I agree that the GAPS diet is a good transition to my program. If

> your husband also takes the supplements I recommend it will help him

> a lot too. Getting off fruit is most important, and eventually he

> may see the wisdom of going off yogurt too. I think it is wonderful

> you make raw yogurt and it is definitely good to eat when a person is

> healthy. The foods and toxins that feed candida also feed other

> bacteria, and even cancer, so it is wise to go on my diet. If it can

> help autistic children, it can help anyone achieve good health.

>

> +++It is most important your husband and children " buy into " the

> common sense of this program too. That means educating them, and a

> long enough transition so they gradually become accustomed to it,

> until it is part of their daily routine. The tough part is because

> healing creates symptoms that aren't easy to understand or accept.

>

> +++I wish you the best Doris. It isn't easy to get a whole family

> to " buy into " such a drastic change in their foods, and to take the

> supplements needed. You are doing great so far, so keep up the great

> work! You are such a good Mom and wife!

>

> Luv & Hugs, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

> > > >Thanks for all your help Bee and others,

> I had a talk with my sons (age 9 and 7) last night at bedtime

because the 9 year old was

> again saying, " if this diet is good for you then why don't my lips

get better? " I explained

> that there are good and bad bacteria and yeast in your gut and when

you take anitbiotics it

> kills all of them. Then the bad ones start to take over when you

feed them fruit and carbs.

> I said the reason his skin was worse was because the coconut oil he

has been having are

> strengthening the good soldiers and now they are battling with the

bad guys and the bad

> guy toxins are trying to escape and are coming out the skin. He

asked why his hands

> were so bad a month a go but now his lips are worse. I said it is

a war in there. The

> hands were a battle but the the good fats new battles are starting

but the coconut oil

> soldiers will win in the end.

> I hope that helped them.

+++Hi Doris. That's a very good way to explain it to your dear son.

It is important he understand how it works.

Good job Mom!

Luv & Hugs, Bee