Re: question please

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Can anyone tell me what the myelineation pattern is

I have been told it is not complete on Boo's CT scan

Thanks

ANN and BOO (UK)

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Ann;

I don't know what that is, but maybe try the CAPS group. P. will probably be of help.

Kendra in CanadaFor more plagio info, go towww.plagiocephaly.org/support

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Can anyone tell me what the myelineation pattern is I have been told it is not complete on Boo's CT scanThanksANN and BOO (UK)

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Hi Bob,It seems to me, based upon what I've been reading from reports here, that MMS is dose specific to the individual. For instance, I am now at 15 drops; 2 x a day. Thats up 1 complete full 15 drop dose without small incremental increases. Always, food in stomach. None of the reported side effects. What does this mean? 1) that is am sicker than I ever believed because I have no vomiting, etc. and thus have not reached dose tolerance, enough to attack pathogens. 2) that I am not in anyway sick at all, have no problems. I'm taking it because of a tooth/gum inflamation that I have been trying to resolve otherwise. Thus far, no significant resolution. Perhaps, I need the 30 drops a day as opposed to , who resolved her problem with a much lesser dose. So, am I exceeding the recommended maximum? I don't know. Perhaps 15 drops works for a typical person

with Malaria which is actually a conundrum because someone with Malaria would or should, be considered to have a seriously compromised immune system. I am going to take the 15 drops 2x a day until Sunday to see what happens. I otherwise, feel,quite normal. For a time, while on approx 12-15 drops 1 x a day, and varied on different days, I felt almost euphoric at times. I did stop completely for a week so as to resume large quantities of C. Back to the MMS until Sunday....which will make it one full week @ 30 drops per day. Bob <winestien@...> wrote: I know the maxium is supposed to be up to 15 drops per day, And if it is a severe case maybe twice per day, That is on the bottle. I also know that taking it on an empty stomach makes it stronger.So......, Lets say my goal is 16 drops drops per day. Is it best to take it at 6 drops 3 times per day, 8 drops twice per day, Or working yourself up to 16 drops once per day........? Anybody know.....? Thank you, Bob. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________

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Bob,

I don't have anything to add as far as dosage information, but I wanted

to let you know that I too could not read my copy of Jim Humble's

second book. I emailed him and he told me the reason is because the pdf

file can only be read on the most recent version of Adobe Acrobat. You

can download this version from the Adobe website for free. I did and

voila! My book was readable.

Good luck with the dosing. I am taking 11-13 drops 2-3 times a day and

my issues are still not fully resolved, even after 3 weeks. I plan to

keep on trucking though because my symptoms are radically improved, so

I hope for a full recovery at some point.

Dinah (1st post - new member as of today!)

On Oct 23, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Carol Ann wrote:

> Hi Bob,

> It seems to me, based upon what I've been reading from reports here,

> that  MMS is dose specific to the individual.  For instance, I am now

> at 15 drops; 2 x a day.  Thats up 1 complete full 15 drop dose without

> small incremental increases.   Always, food in stomach.  None of the

> reported side effects. 

>

>  What does this mean?  1) that is am sicker than I ever believed

> because I have no vomiting, etc. and thus have not reached dose

> tolerance, enough to attack pathogens.  2) that I am not in anyway

> sick at all, have no problems.    I'm taking it because of a tooth/gum

> inflamation that I have been trying to resolve otherwise.   Thus far,

> no significant resolution.  Perhaps, I need the 30 drops a day as

> opposed to , who resolved her problem with a much lesser dose.

> So, am I exceeding the recommended maximum?   I don't know.  Perhaps

> 15 drops works for a typical person with Malaria which is actually a

> conundrum because someone with Malaria would or should,  be considered

> to have a seriously compromised immune system.

>

> I am going to take the 15 drops 2x a day until Sunday to see what

> happens. I otherwise, feel,quite normal.  For a time, while on approx

> 12-15 drops 1 x a day, and varied on different days, I felt almost

> euphoric at times.  I did stop completely for a week so as to resume

> large quantities of C.

>

> Back to the MMS until Sunday....which will make it one full week @ 30

> drops per day.

>

>

>

> Bob <winestien@...> wrote:I know the maxium is supposed to be up

> to 15 drops

>> per day, And if it is a severe case maybe twice per day, That is on

>> the bottle. I also know that taking it on an empty stomach makes it

>> stronger.So......, Lets say my goal is 16 drops drops per day. Is it

>> best to take it at 6 drops 3 times per day, 8 drops twice per day, Or

>> working yourself up to 16 drops once per day........? Anybody

>> know.....? Thank you,

>> Bob.

>>

>

>

>

> Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you

> think..

> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Well, if you are willing to try it and are not doing it now, you might take the 2 doses only 1 hour apart. That's what Jim says to do. Then he also states if that doesn't do anything--that you have not felt any nausea at all while going to the 15 drop, then you happen to be a person that needs more. :-) But the one hour apart doses seems to be the key to seeing if you have anything wrong or not.

You are doing ozone, too, right? Perhaps that's why as the ozone may have killed off stuff and you only have the really super strong beasties left. :-) dunno. You could be the major test case. Lol

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

It seems to me, based upon what I've been reading from reports here, that MMS is dose specific to the individual. For instance, I am now at 15 drops; 2 x a day. Thats up 1 complete full 15 drop dose without small incremental increases. Always, food in stomach. None of the reported side effects. What does this mean? 1) that is am sicker than I ever believed because I have no vomiting, etc. and thus have not reached dose tolerance, enough to attack pathogens. 2) that I am not in anyway sick at all, have no problems. I'm taking it because of a tooth/gum inflamation that I have been trying to resolve otherwise. Thus far, no significant resolution. Perhaps, I need the 30 drops a day as opposed to , who resolved her problem with a much lesser dose. So, am I exceeding the recommended maximum? I don't know. Perhaps 15 drops works for a typical person with Malaria which is actually a conundrum because someone with Malaria would or should, be considered to have a seriously compromised immune system. I am going to take the 15 drops 2x a day until Sunday to see what happens. I otherwise, feel,quite normal. For a time, while on approx 12-15 drops 1 x a day, and varied on different days, I felt almost euphoric at times. I did stop completely for a week so as to resume large quantities of C.

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dear bob, dear carol,

what are you taking? did you make your own pure NaClO3

or did you buy something bottled?

and what are you trying to achieve / cure?

greetings, dominik

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I bought mine bottled from Globallightnet, I have had extreme fatigue

that has put me on the couch most of the time. I have been told that I

have mercury poisoning from my amalgams, But I have not been able to

afford to get tested. I also was diagnosed by a biological dentist

that I had candid on my tongue, Which pretty much falls in line with

mercury. My body feels like it is loaded with poision and I am trying

to clear some of this junk out. Someday later, I hope to be able to

afford to get this mercury out of my mouth.

>

> dear bob, dear carol,

> what are you taking? did you make your own pure NaClO3

> or did you buy something bottled?

> and what are you trying to achieve / cure?

> greetings, dominik

>

>

> __________________________________ Ihr erstes Baby? Holen

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>

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Try to use it on empty stomach. Your food prevents MMS action. Waste of MMS and your efforts.

Val

-------Original Message-------

It seems to me, based upon what I've been reading from reports here, that MMS is dose specific to the individual. For instance, I am now at 15 drops; 2 x a day. Thats up 1 complete full 15 drop dose without small incremental increases. Always, food in stomach. None of the reported side effects. What does this mean? 1) that is am sicker than I ever believed because I have no vomiting, etc. and thus have not reached dose tolerance, enough to attack pathogens. 2) that I am not in anyway sick at all, have no problems. I'm taking it because of a tooth/gum inflamation that I have been trying to resolve otherwise. Thus far, no significant resolution. Perhaps, I need the 30 drops a day as opposed to , who resolved her problem with a much lesser dose. So, am I exceeding the recommended maximum? I don't know. Perhaps 15 drops works for a typical person with Malaria which is actually a conundrum because someone with Malaria would or should, be considered to have a seriously compromised immune system. I am going to take the 15 drops 2x a day until Sunday to see what happens. I otherwise, feel,quite normal. For a time, while on approx 12-15 drops 1 x a day, and varied on different days, I felt almost euphoric at times. I did stop completely for a week so as to resume large quantities of C.

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Hi dominik,Bought mine ready mixed from global light. I dunno know....just to see what the results will be re my tooth/gum problem. Otherwise,nothing major, that I know of. btw, i did forget to mention one minor observation....the bottoms of my feet do feel a little condensed or swollen in the morning since ramping up to 30 drops. This disappears quickly as I begin to take a few steps. It's not unlike what occurs after I've eaten Chinese food with MSG or something else with an extremely high salt content. I'm guessing this is due to the fact that SD turns to salt in the body. Bob <winestien@...> wrote: I bought mine bottled from Globallightnet, I have had extreme fatigue that has put me on the couch most of the time. I have been told that I have mercury poisoning from my amalgams, But I have not been able to afford to get tested. I also was diagnosed by a biological dentist that I had candid on my tongue, Which pretty much falls in line with mercury. My body feels like it is loaded with poision and I am trying to clear some of this junk out. Someday later, I hope to be able to afford to get this mercury out of my mouth. > > dear bob, dear carol, > what are you taking? did you make your own pure NaClO3 > or did you buy

something bottled? > and what are you trying to achieve / cure? > greetings, dominik > > > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Baby? Holen Sie sich Tipps von anderen Eltern. www..de/clever > Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________

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Val, Could you please support your recommendations/statements. I'm certainly not going to take it on an empty stomach just for the sake of experiencing vomiting/diahrea to prove its working. Because nothing would be proved other than perhaps excessive acidity can contribute to nausea. Doing so would prove nothing towards MMS effectiveness. Other than the one reference below, nowhere in Jims book 2, or anywhere else, is he "specific" as to whether MMS works better or worse on a full vs empty stomach or whether it is recommended to take stomach with/out food. Some meds are specific...take/do not take on empty stomach. No such recommendation for MMS from Jim. I find it confusing. If nausea, take food. If nausea it means its working. If healthy, no nausea. Does that mean its NOT working.... - BOOK 2 Page 3.There is a problem with a 15 drop dose. If the person taking such a dose is notfairly

healthy, it will have a tendency to make him nauseous. IT SHOULD BEMENTIONED THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE BECOME NAUSEOUS, BUT A FEW DO,AND FOR THIS REASON ONE SHOULD FOLLOW THE SUGGESTIONS IN THIS PARAGRAPH.....page 5 - Please note: normally healthy people can take these drops without nausea, especially after a meal. Only people sick with some kind of disease will get nausea when taking the drops. However, nausea is a good indication that the drops are doing some good. Usually even sick people do not experience nausea when taking MMS, however doot be surprised when people get sick or have nausea or even vomit after taking a few drops of MMS. Try to take it or give it immediately after a meal. The MMS allows the immune system to correct various conditions in the body and this creates solutions that the body must expel during the process. That is normal; however, if you always start with only two drops it is unlikely that

you will make anyone sick.Valery Galperin <lordnval@...> wrote: Try to use it on empty stomach. Your food prevents MMS action. Waste of MMS and your efforts. Val Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________

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MMS is always working--doing what it does. Releasing chlorine dioxide in the body. If you are healthy and have nothing wrong, and the MMS is not causing nausea when you take your full dose (for your weight or at least the 15 drop dose) and then in one hour take another full dose, then it means that you have killed off all the pathogens in the body that aren't suppose to be there. At least, according to Jim. That's when you drop down to a maintenance dose. The way I understand his book is that the key is taking the 2 full doses one hour apart, not a day apart. The day apart is for when you are working your way up to the full dose, killing pathogens along the way.

Could be wrong about this--but that's what I get from going over and over Jim's book. And he does mention somewhere--or perhaps it was in one of the answers he sent to the MMS list--that it should be taken on a full stomach to help not get nausea.

Samala,

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Doing so would prove nothing towards MMS effectiveness. Other than the one reference below, nowhere in Jims book 2, or anywhere else, is he "specific" as to whether MMS works better or worse on a full vs empty stomach or whether it is recommended to take stomach with/out food. Some meds are specific...take/do not take on empty stomach. No such recommendation for MMS from Jim. I find it confusing. If nausea, take food. If nausea it means its working. If healthy, no nausea. Does that mean its NOT working....-

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Hi -So glad that a Soul such as yourself is willing to hash this out. Its quite possible for us to each determine the meaning of what we read in the book. And still, there are questions. Seems that more people are getting nauseous than not. Per Jims literatiure he says "some" a "few" people will vomit, etc. I wonder how much the power of suggestion has to do with the symptoms experienced.To date, when taking 2 doses, I have usually taken one in the morning around 11 or so because i usually don't eat anything until/before then. When I do eat bkfst its something light, like an egg and piece of toast, or a Whey protein shake. Again, later in the evening after dinner I'll take the 2nd dose of 15 drops and I rarely eat a heavy dinner. So really, its not more than 7 or 8 hours apart. For how long do you think 15 drops is working in the body. Have you been able to determine the

conversion/depletion time. So, do you think that if I take a 2 -15 drop doses 1 hour apart I can just presume to have resolved any and all problems, even the ones I ain't aware of. Does this mean I don't need to dose again at 15 and get down to 2 drops maintenance. Should I surmise that if I don't experience any of the common reactions like nausea, vomiting, loose bowels I am a healthy person with no problems and quit taking the MMS except for maintenance doses. Tell ya the truth, my feelings are that I don't know that I'd do 2 drops, long term regular daily routine maintenance dose...based upon my known health issues. OK. Gonna see what happens. Just finished a 15 drop dose about 2 hrs ago. Started late today. Had 1/2 a sandwich before..no breakfast today. Im going right now to make the second dose up. .

<gaiacita@...> wrote: MMS is always working--doing what it does. Releasing chlorine dioxide in the body. If you are healthy and have nothing wrong, and the MMS is not causing nausea when you take your full dose (for your weight or at least the 15 drop dose) and then in one hour take another full dose, then it means

that you have killed off all the pathogens in the body that aren't suppose to be there. At least, according to Jim. That's when you drop down to a maintenance dose. The way I understand his book is that the key is taking the 2 full doses one hour apart, not a day apart. The day apart is for when you are working your way up to the full dose, killing pathogens along the way. Could be wrong about this--but that's what I get from going over and over Jim's book. And he does mention somewhere--or perhaps it was in one of the answers he sent to the MMS list--that it should be taken on a full stomach to help not get nausea. Samala, -------Original Message------- Doing so would prove nothing towards MMS effectiveness. Other than the one reference below, nowhere in Jims book 2, or anywhere else, is he "specific" as to whether MMS works better or worse on a full vs empty stomach or whether it is recommended to take stomach with/out food. Some meds are specific...take/do not take on empty stomach. No such recommendation for MMS from Jim. I find it confusing. If nausea, take food. If nausea it means its working. If healthy, no nausea. Does that mean its NOT working....- Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________

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PS. FYI. One of the primary reasons for my experiment and continued interest in learning more about MMS, its effects, etc. is that I have a son who has Hep C. He's not crazy about Ozone and even if he was, we are not geographically in close proximity at this time. MMS is something he can do independent of me. I've read what Jim says about MMS and Hep C. I've also read what he said about using it to treat a tooth. Thus far, my dose ramping has not made a significant difference, but, it may take more time to resolve and that I accept. In a way Momma is gonna do the trials first. So, essentially, I am going to think of my tooth (foolish as that may be) as if it were Malaria or something as serious and go for the full Monty. <gaiacita@...> wrote: . The day apart is for when you are working your way up to the full dose, killing pathogens along the way. Samala, -------Original Message------- Doing so would prove nothing towards MMS effectiveness. Other than the one reference below, nowhere in Jims book 2, or anywhere else, is he "specific" as to whether MMS works better or worse on a full vs empty stomach or whether it is recommended to take stomach with/out food. Some meds are specific...take/do not take on empty stomach. No such recommendation for MMS from Jim. I find it confusing. If nausea, take food. If nausea it means its working. If healthy, no nausea. Does that mean its NOT working....- Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________

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Hello Carol Ann

Whatever you will take on empty stomach will go through membranes of the stomach, while it is in the stomach. That way it may be absorbed by the body with stable concentration, greater speed and better results.

Whatever you will take on full stomach or stomach with some food, part of it will go inside of that food and may discharge a lot its "bullets" into it and then will travel or be dragged by food into thin intestines. Partially it will find a way through membranes of the stomach into the body, .

In stomach there will be some fluids, which will be digesting food. Those fluids will change concentration of the MMS solution and possibly the strength of the action.

The action is different in both cases. One has strong and direct effect, the other has soft and limited effect.

That is why I was saying "Your food prevents MMS action. Waste of MMS and your efforts".

Personally I am taking it on empty stomach. My food is different at different times of the day and I want to have my MMS stable concentration and action, which would lead to stable results. Those results could be better analyzed, in needed.

Good luck to you and do not stop. ;>)

Regards,

Val

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Val, Could you please support your recommendations/statements. I'm certainly not going to take it on an empty stomach just for the sake of experiencing vomiting/diahrea to prove its working. Because nothing would be proved other than perhaps excessive acidity can contribute to nausea. Doing so would prove nothing towards MMS effectiveness. Other than the one reference below, nowhere in Jims book 2, or anywhere else, is he "specific" as to whether MMS works better or worse on a full vs empty stomach or whether it is recommended to take stomach with/out food. Some meds are specific...take/do not take on empty stomach. No such recommendation for MMS from Jim. I find it confusing. If nausea, take food. If nausea it means its working. If healthy, no nausea. Does that mean its NOT working....- BOOK 2 Page 3.There is a problem with a 15 drop dose. If the person taking such a dose is notfairly healthy, it will have a tendency to make him nauseous. IT SHOULD BEMENTIONED THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE BECOME NAUSEOUS, BUT A FEW DO,AND FOR THIS REASON ONE SHOULD FOLLOW THE SUGGESTIONS IN THIS PARAGRAPH.....page 5 - Please note: normally healthy people can take these drops without nausea, especially after a meal. Only people sick with some kind of disease will get nausea when taking the drops. However, nausea is a good indication that the drops are doing some good. Usually even sick people do not experience nausea when taking MMS, however doot be surprised when people get sick or have nausea or even vomit after taking a few drops of MMS. Try to take it or give it immediately after a meal. The MMS allows the immune system to correct various conditions in the body and this creates solutions that the body must expel during the process. That is normal; however, if you always start with only two drops it is unlikely that you will make anyone sick.Valery Galperin <lordnvaloptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

Try to use it on empty stomach. Your food prevents MMS action. Waste of MMS and your efforts.

Val

Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

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You are a brave soul!!!! :-) Most people are afraid to start their very first drop, and here you are plunging into 2 doses within an hour.

Well, about the only thing I can say about the timing is that, again, from what I understand of Jim's book, each drop of AMMS (activated MMS) was figured out by Jim as to how much acid and MMS there is in the mixed drop, to release a molecule of chlorine dioxide for every hour for 12 hours. So--again if I'm understanding this right--each drop is releasing for 12 hours, and the amount of drops you take is simply how much of the chlorine dioxide you are getting at one time. Naturally, 2 drops will give you twice the amount in your blood that 1 drop will, any given hour. So, 15 drops is 15 times the amount of chlorine than 1 drop. Which is why most people can take 2 drops without getting sick whereas if they take 15 drops they get very sick. They are having that much more chloride working in their body at once.

He did answer one question for us and said that he considers it much better, if a person is sick, to take AMMS many times a day in small doses rather than one large dose. Thinking about it--if you take one 15 drop dose in the morning you will be getting that amount of chlorine dioxide for the 12 hours, on a diminishing basis over the 12 hour time frame as the molecules are being used up. But instead of you take 5--3 drop doses, each 2 hours apart, you are getting the 15 drops, but at a rate where each following dose is "fresh" and at it's peak in the beginning 12 hour time frame.

Sigh--I don't know if this is making any sense. I know what I'm talking about but I don't feel like I'm explaining it very well. Perhaps someone else can explain it better.

And I don't know your size, but if you weigh over 150 to 175 then you might need more drops than 15. He is always saying that 15 is the dosage you go for, but he has mentioned that a couple people have had to go up to 25 to see any results, and then he says for kids and young adults to take 3 drops for every 25 pounds of body weight. So using that rate, a 15 drop dose is only actually for a 125 pound person. He's never been really clear about this. Whether you should always go by weight, or that the 15 (25 in certain cases of flu not responding to the 15 drops) is all that is necessary.

Truly, I believe some of this is still being figured out by Jim. As you pointed out, he says most people can take a lot of drops and not be sick, but most everyone on the MDI list that has been sick for any length of time, gets nauseated on just 2 or 3 drops. We kind of decided it is because those of us in America are exposed to so much more toxic environments than the people in Africa. And perhaps there are only few people in Africa that weigh over 150 pounds. They don't get to eat like we do. ;-)

So--this is still a Learning experience for us all. Your bravery and reports make this easier to understand. Or at least it gives us more to ponder. Lol

Samala,

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So, do you think that if I take a 2 -15 drop doses 1 hour apart I can just presume to have resolved any and all problems, even the ones I ain't aware of. Does this mean I don't need to dose again at 15 and get down to 2 drops maintenance. Should I surmise that if I don't experience any of the common reactions like nausea, vomiting, loose bowels I am a healthy person with no problems and quit taking the MMS except for maintenance doses. Tell ya the truth, my feelings are that I don't know that I'd do 2 drops, long term regular daily routine maintenance dose...based upon my known health issues.

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OK. Its now 2 doses within 2.5 hours. 1- 15 drop dose and since I last wrote to you I have taken another 20 drop dose. . That would make the doses within approx 4 hours of each other. Given the extra 5 drops making it a larger dose than the first, I think the time differentiation reasonable. The only thing I can say so far is that the chlorine is so strong I think I'm becoming immune to its smell. Yuck. BTW. I am taking the MMS with White Tea brewed from a tea bag over ice, and sweetened with honey. Hmmm. I wonder if the tea has anything affect on the MMS. AMMS is activated with Citric Acid. Now, I've just finished a piece of apple pie and ice cream and am making a bowl of soup. This is after taking the 2nd 20 drop dose. So far, no nausea, nothing extraordinary to report. I have to re-read your post a few times.

<gaiacita@...> wrote: You are a brave soul!!!! :-) Most people are afraid to start their very first drop, and here you are plunging into 2 doses within an hour. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________

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OK. I'm 5' '7 and last I checked about 2 months ago 145 lbs. I don't own a scale but my clothes since then haven't gotten any tighter. . So, 18 drops would be about my appropriate dose according to the table you mention via Jims observations. Which means, I've actually been under dosing at 15. Which means, since my last dose was 20 I am going to ramp the dose up by 5 drops to 25. I am looking forward to seeing what happens. <gaiacita@...> wrote: Truly, I believe some of this is still being figured out by Jim.And us <g> I'll keep ya posted as to what happens as I go about increasing the doses. <gaiacita@...> wrote: And I don't know your size, but if you weigh over 150 to 175 then you might need more drops than 15. He is always saying that 15 is the dosage you go for, but he has mentioned that a couple people have had to go up to 25 to see any results, and then he says for kids and young adults to take 3 drops for every 25 pounds of body weight. So using that rate, a 15 drop dose is only actually for a 125 pound person. He's never been really clear about

this. Whether you should always go by weight, or that the 15 (25 in certain cases of flu not responding to the 15 drops) is all that is necessary. Truly, I believe some of this is still being figured out by Jim. As you pointed out, he says most people can take a lot of drops and not be sick, but most everyone on the MDI list that has been sick for any length of time, gets nauseated on just 2 or 3 drops. We kind of decided it is because those of us in America are exposed to so much more toxic environments than the people in Africa. And perhaps there are only few people in Africa that weigh over 150 pounds. They don't get to eat like we do. ;-) So--this is still a Learning

experience for us all. Your bravery and reports make this easier to understand. Or at least it gives us more to ponder. Lol Samala, -------Original Message------- So, do you think that if I take a 2 -15 drop doses 1 hour apart I can just presume to have resolved any and all problems, even the ones I ain't aware of. Does this mean I don't need to dose again at 15 and get down to 2 drops maintenance. Should I surmise that if I don't experience any of the common reactions like nausea, vomiting, loose bowels I am a healthy person with no problems and quit

taking the MMS except for maintenance doses. Tell ya the truth, my feelings are that I don't know that I'd do 2 drops, long term regular daily routine maintenance dose...based upon my known health issues. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________

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Whew!!! You are one brave soul.

Samala,

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OK. I'm 5' '7 and last I checked about 2 months ago 145 lbs. I don't own a scale but my clothes since then haven't gotten any tighter. . So, 18 drops would be about my appropriate dose according to the table you mention via Jims observations. Which means, I've actually been under dosing at 15. Which means, since my last dose was 20 I am going to ramp the dose up by 5 drops to 25. I am looking forward to seeing what happens.

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Well, considering if this doesn't bother you, then I would say that your pathogens are dead? At least they should be. You do ozone, too, right? Perhaps you have killed the pathogens and now just need to strengthen your body and organs?

You might be better off to write to Jim directly. On his website now at

www.miraclemineral.org there is a page on the contact us link, where you can fill out a box with your questions. Apparently you don't have to write him and put stories of success in the subject line anymore. Might be worth writing him, explaining all that you have done with any protocol while on MMS, and what your state of health is and what it is you are looking to do. It would be interesting to see what he says.

Samala,

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Now, I've just finished a piece of apple pie and ice cream and am making a bowl of soup. This is after taking the 2nd 20 drop dose. So far, no nausea, nothing extraordinary to report. I have to re-read your post a few times. :)Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

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Hi Bob. Jim mentioned in an answer to our questions--sheesh! I have to mail him our last group of questions again as I never got an answer--that he thought if a person was sick and trying to get better, that he felt it was best to take less drops many times a day vs. Lots of drops once a day.

So, perhaps, while you are working up to your 15 drops again, you might consider taking it 3 times a day in smaller amounts--say 5 drops at a time, rather than 15 all at once, until you get up to being able to take 15 drops at once and then one hour later, another 15 drops, without getting sick.

Just something to consider. I don't think anyone has a definite answer for you. This is still so experimental for all of us-as you can tell by your experience!!

Samala,

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Lets say my goal is 16 drops drops per day. Is it

best to take it at 6 drops 3 times per day, 8 drops twice per day, Or

working yourself up to 16 drops once per day........? Anybody

know.....? Thank you,

Bob.

[Guest guest]

Thank you, This is such a great group, I appreciate every ones

response, Yours helps me clarify things better. I have been so sick,

And to exchange with others is so rewarding. I started thinking today

that maybe for me, Since I have been feeling bad for a for a few years

that several dose's per day for me, May be the best. All I can say for

certainty on MMS is that there is a huge diffrence between taking it

on a empty tummy, And a full one. I was up to 15 drops twice per day,

After meals, with no major detox effects, Then one morning I took 15

drops on a empty tummy, A couple of hours later, I had to carry a

porta pottie with me. WOW, What a difference. It was not a " pretty

experience " But I think in the long run, It was good for me, Seems

like it works better on cleaning out you colon if you are not stuffed

with food when you take it. After a few weeks my bowels were back to

normal, And I suddenly became sensitive to spicy food, Specially hot

sausage.I take that as a good thing, Thank you all, And thank you

.....!!

Bob.

>

> Hi Bob. Jim mentioned in an answer to our questions--sheesh! I have to

> mail him our last group of questions again as I never got an

answer--that he

> thought if a person was sick and trying to get better, that he felt

it was

> best to take less drops many times a day vs. Lots of drops once a day.

>

> So, perhaps, while you are working up to your 15 drops again, you might

> consider taking it 3 times a day in smaller amounts--say 5 drops at

a time,

> rather than 15 all at once, until you get up to being able to take

15 drops

> at once and then one hour later, another 15 drops, without getting

sick.

>

> Just something to consider. I don't think anyone has a definite

answer for

> you. This is still so experimental for all of us-as you can tell by

your

> experience!!

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Lets say my goal is 16 drops drops per day. Is it

> best to take it at 6 drops 3 times per day, 8 drops twice per day, Or

> working yourself up to 16 drops once per day........? Anybody

> know.....? Thank you,

> Bob.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Why is your type so bold and large? It feels like you are screaming

at me

Best,

Bob

>

> Hi Bob. Jim mentioned in an answer to our questions--sheesh! I

have to

> mail him our last group of questions again as I never got an answer-

-that he

> thought if a person was sick and trying to get better, that he felt

it was

> best to take less drops many times a day vs. Lots of drops once a

day.

>

> So, perhaps, while you are working up to your 15 drops again, you

might

> consider taking it 3 times a day in smaller amounts--say 5 drops at

a time,

> rather than 15 all at once, until you get up to being able to take

15 drops

> at once and then one hour later, another 15 drops, without getting

sick.

>

> Just something to consider. I don't think anyone has a definite

answer for

> you. This is still so experimental for all of us-as you can tell

by your

> experience!!

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Lets say my goal is 16 drops drops per day. Is it

> best to take it at 6 drops 3 times per day, 8 drops twice per day,

Or

> working yourself up to 16 drops once per day........? Anybody

> know.....? Thank you,

> Bob.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not screaming. It shows large (it's not set for bold) because I see it better that way when I type. I got a new, small laptop and have a hard time seeing the small print. We went through this conversation on another list. Seems that some people--depending on THEIR email settings, see my print as normal, as super large, as small. Sorry--but I will continue to use this type. Much easier on my eyes. Some of the emails I receive I can barely read and have to go and find my reading glasses, because it shows up so small. Especially when they use colored type. And I've actually had a couple people write and say my posts are the only ones they can read clearly without eye strain. lol

As an example--your type, and my type that you left in my last post, actually looks exactly the same size to my screen. <shrug>

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Hi,

Why is your type so bold and large? It feels like you are screaming

at me

Best,

Bob

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I get it. It is not a problem, I was just curious. Whatever works

Best,

Bob

>

> I'm not screaming. It shows large (it's not set for bold) because

I see it

> better that way when I type. I got a new, small laptop and have a

hard time

> seeing the small print. We went through this conversation on

another list.

> Seems that some people--depending on THEIR email settings, see my

print as

> normal, as super large, as small. Sorry--but I will continue to

use this

> type. Much easier on my eyes. Some of the emails I receive I can

barely

> read and have to go and find my reading glasses, because it shows

up so

> small. Especially when they use colored type. And I've actually

had a

> couple people write and say my posts are the only ones they can

read clearly

> without eye strain. lol

>

> As an example--your type, and my type that you left in my last post,

> actually looks exactly the same size to my screen. <shrug>

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Hi,

> Why is your type so bold and large? It feels like you are screaming

> at me

> Best,

> Bob

>

[Guest guest]

Bob, you are doing just great. It's all an experiment, and every time you report, you help someone else get started or get clear about something.

Thank you.

-------Original Message-------

Thank you, This is such a great group, I appreciate every ones

response, Yours helps me clarify things better. I have been so sick,

And to exchange with others is so rewarding.