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Bill

When you say Bike, are you talking about a motorcycle?

Ed

Aching legs

I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in my right hip

and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the hip and

fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until

probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am due

to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my question

is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that all

the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight. It

feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a keen

cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike, I

still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache has got

worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my body

finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when my

legs are fixed?

I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every day so

at least I can do my job but they don't do much.

Thanks for any input,

Bill.

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Hi Bill

Sorry to hear of your pain, but unfortunately it sounds as if it is

just arthritis pain, and this won't get better on it's own as you

know. Because you have remained active you have probably put off the

inevitable for some time already.

Because you are active have you looked into hip resurfacing, this is

a bone conserving alternative to traditional hip replacement that

enables recipients to return to any active sport. It has recently

been approved by the FDA but has been used in Europe and the rest of

the world for many years now. Look at this x-ray - shows both

procedures (note the acetabular side is exactly the same side

http://www.thehipclinic.co.uk/gallery/BHRoneside.JPG

I was 37 when I had both mine done and simply haven't looked back...

if you are interested I can send you links to sites that can help and

also people who can put you in touch with a good resurfacing surgeon

near you.

Best Wishes

jane in Wales

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> I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in my right

hip

> and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the hip

and

> fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until

> probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am

due

> to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my

question

> is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that

all

> the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight. It

> feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a keen

> cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike, I

> still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache has

got

> worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my body

> finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when my

> legs are fixed?

> I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every day

so

> at least I can do my job but they don't do much.

> Thanks for any input,

> Bill.

>

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>Hello,

No I am a cyclist (bicycle), I typically ride for 1-2 hours on the

road, now in pain!

> Bill

> When you say Bike, are you talking about a motorcycle?

> Ed

>

>

> Aching legs

>

>

> I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in my right

hip

> and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the hip

and

> fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until

> probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am

due

> to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my

question

> is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that

all

> the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight. It

> feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a keen

> cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike, I

> still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache has

got

> worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my body

> finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when my

> legs are fixed?

> I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every day

so

> at least I can do my job but they don't do much.

> Thanks for any input,

> Bill.

>

>

>

>

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> > I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in my

right

> hip

> > and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the

hip

> and

> > fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until

> > probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am

> due

> > to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my

> question

> > is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that

> all

> > the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight.

It

> > feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a

keen

> > cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike,

I

> > still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache

has

> got

> > worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my

body

> > finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when

my

> > legs are fixed?

> > I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every

day

> so

> > at least I can do my job but they don't do much.

> > Thanks for any input,

> > Bill.

> >

>

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Bill, When a hip or a knee is out of whack, it makes the other joints work harder than they should; thus, the strain. Perhaps that's what's happening to you. I have osteoarthritis throughout my body. I recently had both knees replaced. My hips are also worn away and I am to have hip replacement as soon as possible. However, the hip pain disappeared when my new knees took over the job they hadn't been able to do for a long time. I'm not sure how long these hips will continue to feel so good, but I may be able to put it off surgery for much longer than I imagined. This is something to discuss with your surgeon. How soon do you plan to have the first replacement? It sounds like the sooner the better. Best of luck! Donna Bill <sausages2u@...> wrote: I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in my right hip and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the hip and fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am due to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my question is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that all the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight. It feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a keen cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike, I still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache has got worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my

body finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when my legs are fixed? I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every day so at least I can do my job but they don't do much.Thanks for any input,Bill.

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Hello,

I am hoping to have my hip done in the next six months. What you say

makes sense, I am all over the place when I walk, and can only walk

say 500m before I have to rest... it sucks!

Regards and thanks,

Bill.

> I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in

my right hip

> and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the hip

and

> fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until

> probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am

due

> to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my

question

> is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that

all

> the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight. It

> feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a keen

> cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike, I

> still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache has

got

> worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my body

> finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when my

> legs are fixed?

> I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every day

so

> at least I can do my job but they don't do much.

> Thanks for any input,

> Bill.

>

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Bill, That's why everyone says you will know when you are ready for a joint replacement. The pain gets to be too much, you give up your day-to-day activities one by one -- and then you know you want a normal life back. My brother goes on Jan. 24 for his first knee replacement. Then later this year, he will have the second one done. He's 12 years older than me and has held out longer than I could believe. He always said he would never have it done. But now he's losing his ability to walk. Also, he saw me go through it and come out the other side much better for it. I talked to him last night, and he's not even nervous, just ready. I'm amazed! It sounds like you need pain management now. If your own doctor doesn't want to prescribe meds, then you could see a pain management specialist. You don't have suffer until your surgery. Warm regards, Donna Bill <sausages2u@...> wrote: Hello,I am hoping to have

my hip done in the next six months. What you say makes sense, I am all over the place when I walk, and can only walk say 500m before I have to rest... it sucks! Regards and thanks,Bill. > I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in my right hip > and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the hip and > fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until > probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am due > to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my question > is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that all > the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight. It > feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a keen

> cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike, I > still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache has got > worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my body > finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when my > legs are fixed? > I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every day so > at least I can do my job but they don't do much.> Thanks for any input,> Bill.> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Never miss an email again!> Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.>

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Wow I didn't know there was such a person as pain management!

I have a problem with medication as it effects my stomach. I can

manage white Tylenol and some sort of 2 inhibitor (?) but only

every other day. I will make some further investigations.

Thanks again.

Bill

> > I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in

> my right hip

> > and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the

hip

> and

> > fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until

> > probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am

> due

> > to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my

> question

> > is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that

> all

> > the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight.

It

> > feels as if everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a

keen

> > cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike,

I

> > still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache

has

> got

> > worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my

body

> > finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when

my

> > legs are fixed?

> > I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every

day

> so

> > at least I can do my job but they don't do much.

> > Thanks for any input,

> > Bill.

> >

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As everyone says ... you're ready for a replacement. I never knew that

my back & leg pain was caused by my hips (didn't have a very good

Doctor - kept telling me my pain was in my head, because I was

depressed over the deaths of my Mom & Sister). Since my one hip was

done, I feel split in the middle. My right side is feeling so much

better (though still stiff muscles - will take prolonged therapy to

correct this).

I've found that when I take 3 Arthitis Pain Formulae (good for 8 hours)

3x per day plus one Naproxen at Midnight, I can pretty well manage the

pain. I also use herbs, oils/rubs, etc. If your stomach is sensitive,

take with food or milk - I find that helps me a lot.

Best, Jackie

10/24/06 TRHR

1/23/07 TLHR

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Bill, Even though I don't have an appointment yet, even though I've been threatening to for weeks, I've heard nothing but good things here about pain managment specialists -- doctors especially trained and not afraid to deal with pain. So many doctors, particularly of all people arthritis specialists and surgeons it seems to me, don't want to deal with pain or write prescriptions. I was once one of those people who said, "Oh, no, I never, ever take pain medication. It makes me nervous." When I had my first knee repair and told the nurse that, she said, "Do us and yourself a favor, honey. Get this prescription filled on the way home and

then we won't have to see you in here begging at 2 a.m." I actually lasted 24 hours before I gave in and took the first pill. Now, since the knee replacements, I preach "No one has to suffer!" Not that I love narcotics, they can bring you down and depress you. But so can pain. Pain managment specialists are there to get rid of your pain. And they can you more options than just drugs. Also, you could try cortisone shots. It's not a good long-term treatment, but great while you're contemplating surgery. I've had them in my knees and hips, and got three months of relief both times. It doesn't work for everyone, but when it does, it's wonderful. This is something your arthritis doctor can order.

They can do the knees in the office, though I prefer going to the hospital for both, where the radiologist has a live x-ray machine that lets him/her see exactly where the needle is going. Just insist they numb it first. When I had my knees done, a very renowned surgeon didn't numb it and I was ready to come off the table. The second time the radiologist numbed it, and I was still waiting for the shot when he said it was all done. Absolutely painless except for a sting. Good luck. You deserve some relief! Donna Bill <sausages2u@...> wrote: Wow I didn't know there was such a person as pain management!I have a problem with medication as it effects my stomach. I can manage white Tylenol and some sort of 2 inhibitor (?) but only every other day. I will make some further investigations.Thanks again.Bill> > I am 54 years old man and am suffering from arthritis in > my right hip > > and left knee due to an accident in 1972 when I dislocated the hip > and > > fractured the tibial spine in my knee. I have managed okay until > > probably two years ago when I felt my hip starting to ache. I am > due > > to have my hip fixed this year and then my knee however; my > question > > is why are my both legs aching all the time? It feels to me that > all > > the tendons or ligaments in/around my both legs are too tight. It > > feels as if

everything has been wrenched and strained. I am a keen > > cyclist but now I am in pain from the moment I climb on my bike, I > > still try to ride but it is very uncomfortable. This pain/ache has > got > > worse over the last couple of months, is it arthritis, is my body > > finally telling me to stop? Is, is this normal? Will it go when my > > legs are fixed? > > I find now that I have to take some sort of painkillers every day > so > > at least I can do my job but they don't do much.> > Thanks for any input,> > Bill.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Never miss an email again!> > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it > out.> >> > > >

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With one bad leg you over-compensate with

the good leg to stay on an even keel. Eventually the good leg will tell

you it’s

had enough and that sounds like where you are at. Will it go away?? I’m not

sure. Will it get better?? Yes I’m

sure that

it will be better after surgery but how much better, no one can tell. Exercising

and doing stretches up until

surgery

will help the outcome so don’t quit but maybe it’s time to slow

down a little. Over stressing the good leg can

cause joint

damage if you wait too long.

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REad our guide on how to be sure they drawign blood right.

Your K is most likely low IMHO with these Sx

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

On Sunday, March 08, 2009, at 01:30PM, " carolch58 " <carolch@...> wrote:

>Since I stopped taking spiro in preparation for AVS, I have had a couple of

nights of severe leg cramping. Following this, my leg muscles felt very sore,

and tight to the point of feeling brittle. That has now subsided, but I now feel

constant leg ache. There is some edema. My legs feel very heavy. My mobility is

affected.

>Potassium level is 4.3. Current medication is 240mg verapamil.

>Anyone else experience this?

>Tour thoughts, Dr Grim, would be appreciated.

>Carol

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Another problem: I am having the leg ache a lot and also more bruising.

Sometimes at night I can hardly be still my legs hurt so much. This PA is

awful. It moves around like a wind up toy. Now my shoulders and hips are so

sore that I can hardly lift anything and still have the problem of getting up

from a sitting position. Thanks to all of you for your comments. Just got a

letter from my Doc, have to have some kind of iron test. My whole family had

problems with anemia and I have in the past but this is the first time since

starting Enbrel and methotrexate almost two years ago. I was on vacation and

spent a lot of time in the car, maybe that has caused the additional pain but

don't think it would cause me to be anemic....duh. Well, just another day in

the arms of something beyond my control. A good day to all of you. Sherryhh

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This made me laugh because just yesterday I heard someone with PA call it " The

Sisterhood of the Traveling Pains. " (instead of 'pants') Made me laugh so hard

I spewed my coffee.

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...>

<<This PA is awful. It moves around like a wind up toy.>>

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I had a similar situation spring up about a year after I tested positive in

2001. I was taking Trizivir and something else at the time (I can ask my doctor

when I check in next week but don't recall right now, sorry). Later, Viramune

came into the picture.

I still have the aching, muscle twitching also started about two or three months

after the onset of the aching.  I was told by one neuro that I had myopathy,

most likely. Then, another told me they doubted it and thought I merely

developed a muscled condition called benign fasciculations that usually

dissipates in about two to three years. If it doesn't go away by then, it's

generally permanent. About 6 months later, I developed restless leg. So, it was

sort of a mishmosh and I could never get clear answers (even after going to the

Mayo Clinic).

The thing that caught my attention was your calves. If you run for about a mile,

do your calves start to hurt and lower leg start to lock up? There's a rare

condition called compartment syndrome - it is known to be caused by, believe it

or not, creatine use (rarely, I stress). Basically, the muscle fascia in the

calves is not allowing enough bloodflow, causing a down supply of oxygen to

working muscles in the lower leg. I'm bringing this up because this started for

me along with everything else - and about one year after I started using

creatine. After a few years of dealing with it, I urged my Orthopedic Physician

to do the tests for compartment syndrome. He discouraged me, thinking it wasn't

(!). " Oh, it's so rare, I doubt it " , he said. I insisted on the test and I had

severe compartment syndrome. Ha!

It's not life threatening and surgery to increase the space in in the fascia can

be done to cure, at least, this part of the equation. I'm not big on surgery and

I started using the eliptical instead of the treadmill, so I'm holding for now.

It's only triggered by high impact stuff (running, jogging, long bouts of

jumping, etc).

Not sure if any of this is helpful. I would stay on top of things. My situation

is frustrating but I'm thankful there's something for the restless leg,

something I can do about the compartment syndrome; but the sucky thing is the

achy feeling I just can't seem to shake. Although, it has gotten less noticeable

and I think that's because I am not so freaked out by it now like I was in the

beginning (it used to get so bad at night I would start crying - from the

intense ache but also from the not knowing).

But since you are having a similar sensation, and I took viramune for a while, I

am wondering if there's a connection with viramune. Anyone else get this achy

leg crap? It sure does suck, that's for sure.

Hang in there . . .

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Hey Ric,

just a long shot, prostate problem

can cause pain in the legs, do you have

any trouble urinating?

<Mark B

Aching Legs

I have constant achings legs which have plagued me for over a year now

particularly in the calf region.I used to do a lot of exercise but lately find

that even after a long walk the aching warrants taking painkillers.I have seen a

physiotherapist which does'nt seem to have helped, and the aching is

particularly troublesome at night when I go to bed. My doctor seems to waver the

aching as a 'side effect' of taking meds and advocates taking constant

painkillers, something I dont wish to do. Also, the last few years I have lost

body fat and muscle from my legs and arms, and concerned on this account.I'd be

most greatful for any advice, and interested, in hearing if anyone else has had

similar problems to deal with. I take Viramune and Truvada.

Many thanks ,and a big hello to all who participate in this forum.

Ric

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I have constant achings legs which have plagued me for over a year now particularly in the calf region.I used to do a lot of exercise but lately find that even after a long walk the aching warrants taking painkillers"As you have seen from other notes, there are lots of things that can do this.Does the pain get worse with exercise? This could be a sign of vascular disease, so mention it to your doctor, especially if you smoke!JB

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