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can anyone tell me if nose bleeding has anything to do with jra? my daughter

nose just started bleeding for nothing. she wasn't hit nor did she bump it.

the drs office is closed for the holiday so i couldn't take her to see her

dr.she just had her sinuses xrayed and they were fine too, so i don't know

what's causing it. she not getting hot either cuz we kind her in out of the

air and it's very cold in our house, so if anyone can help please do.

thakns,

ywellen

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Hi Ywellen,

We haven't experienced this problem. In fact, has never had a

nosebleed. I think anyone taking aspirins or other NSAIDs may tend to

clot less well, though. Maybe a humidifier in her room would help

moisten the air, if it's too dry inside? Sorry I couldn't offer more

help. Hope someone can let you know what to do do prevent this.

Let us know what you find out.

Aloha,

Georgina

sweetpea200001@... wrote:

>

> can anyone tell me if nose bleeding has anything to do with jra? my daughter

> nose just started bleeding for nothing. she wasn't hit nor did she bump it.

> the drs office is closed for the holiday so i couldn't take her to see her

> dr.she just had her sinuses xrayed and they were fine too, so i don't know

> what's causing it. she not getting hot either cuz we kind her in out of the

> air and it's very cold in our house, so if anyone can help please do.

> thakns,

> ywellen

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Ywellen,

When were your daughters last labs? I would have her platelet count

checked this is what halps our blood clot. The NSAIDS & even MTX can effect

our blood clottong ability. My daughter has had problems in the past before

DX . Always her paletlets were off. An aside... never tilt your daughters

head back when her nose is bleeding this can lead to shock. Firlmy pinch her

nose just below bridge & hold steady for several minutes. I would call your

dr & mention the nosebleeds to be on the side of caution. They could just be

a coinciedence but better to ere on the side of caution. Let us know .......

Hope this helps Kris

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Yes she is on mtx. When we went in the other day to get over results from

the lab test her mtx level was very low, so her ped. called her rh. ped and

he said that's it's not thing to worry about at this time. Her nose just

started bleeding for no reason at all. Well, I just got off the phone with

her peds. nurse ans she said to just pinch the nose for 5 minutes then sees

what happens then if is start again repeat what I just done then if it hasn't

stopped tkae her to the e.r. to get her checked out. I gonna end up taking

her to the dr anyway because I need to know what's going on with her. Thanks

for your help too.

Ywellen

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Is she on mtx? If so the nose bleeds are usually an indication of low

platelets and is very serious.

Since mtx can drop the platelets.

It can also happen on aspirin or nsaids, and it's not usually as serious a

complication but does need to be checked out to make sure it's not medicine

related.

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Ywellen

your doing the best thing going to the doctor

also try holding the head back

ii always took a cool wet clothe and held it to my nose

let me know how shes doing

Robbin

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Another good idea for nose bleeds is to put ice on the nape of the neck to

help stop the bleeding. Teri

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Hello Tracie

I don't have nose bleeds, I think you misread the mail. Sorry to hear about

yours though, sounds very distressing. Odd that your doctor takes no

notice - can you get another doctor's opinion?.

Regards

Janet

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Re: [ ] Re: -Varices

> & janet

>

> Do you know what causes your nose bleeds? I too suffer from them at least

> one a month, i bleed for a very long time very heavily. I never had

problems

> prior to about 8 months ago. My doctor just shrugs it off!

>

> Tracie aih/raynaulds

>

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Hi Janet

Sorry for the mistake, and yes my doctor referred me to a specialist at

Massachusetts General Hospital. I am due to see him again Dec 5th and will

discuss this with him. Unfortunatley I forgot to mention this on my first

visit. I had so much to tell him that some things were forgotten.

Tracie

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Debby,

When I had a severe nose bleed that put me in the ER via the rescue squad the

EMT's said to put a 4 x 4 gauze in your mouth between you teeth and your lips

at the base of your nose and push. This was the only way they could get mine

to stop. There is a main artery that runs in this area and if you do this

and push firmly it will stop it every time. Much quicker that holding or

pinching your nose. Mine was bleeding so badly that I was choking. This

works quite quickly. Maybe it will help next time. I didn't realize this

but it works.

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, thank you for that tip. Next time I get one of those bad bloody noses, I WILL use that idea! Sometimes when I put my head back, I do begin to choke on the blood! It is rather frightening! Thanks again.

debby

Re: [ ] Nose bleeds

Debby,When I had a severe nose bleed that put me in the ER via the rescue squad the EMT's said to put a 4 x 4 gauze in your mouth between you teeth and your lips at the base of your nose and push. This was the only way they could get mine to stop. There is a main artery that runs in this area and if you do this and push firmly it will stop it every time. Much quicker that holding or pinching your nose. Mine was bleeding so badly that I was choking. This works quite quickly. Maybe it will help next time. I didn't realize this but it works.

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Debby,

It's crazy. I have worked for MD's all my life and a GI doctor for 17 years so I knew what was going on when I had the variceal bleed and I knew how dangerous it was but the nose bleed scared the HECK out of me. It was much more frightening to me. I guess the sight of all the blood is what freaked me out and the fact that I just could not stop it. I was in the shower when it started so mixed with water it looked like a whole lot more than it actually was.

It was substantial though. It dropped my HGB. So I don't mess around with nose bleeds either.

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, thank you for the info about bloody noses. I have them from time to time. One year, I was giving the state mandated tests to my class. suddenly, my nose started bleeding....it would not stop. So, I held my nose tight, head back, and read the directions to the class through a very nasal sounding voice! The kids must have understood that something was wrong, because they were just perfect. Finally, about 20 minutes later, things got better, and I could resume my day.

Then, today, a similar thing happened. My nose started bleeding....right down my face. So off to the nurse I went to lie down! Silly me....it stopped within a few moments. I HATE it when it just starts to drip down. No warning...nothing...just drip drip!

Debby

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, thank you. I just didn't realize how bad a bloody nose could be. I will pay attention more closely!

Debby

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Wow Debby you did bleed alot. It always looks like alot to me, but I

remember back to my EMT training. They had us dye a pint of water,

then poor it on the ground. It was shocking how much one pint looks

like when spread all over the ground.

Haven't had any nosebleeds in the shower yet. They conveniently

happen half the time while I am on the potty. Plenty of tissue

around, but very hard to get you pants back on one handed. Mine like

to come whn ever I wear white. Or when I am not at homw. the store,

relatives house, some placew wo make it good and emberassing.

Especially when I don't feel it and they see it first. Yech. It as

amazing how many people can flinch at the sight of blood - what

wimps! :)

Love,

Carole K

> Debby,

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Jenn-

I get nosebleeds frequently. And as some might have all ready told

you it can be a sign of something going bad in the liver - as our

dear Jerry tells us, LFT's do not reflect health of the liver, only

that inflamation is down or up. My doc is not worrying since

my 'numbers' are in normal range, which makes me worry about my

doctor! Liver failing can cause esophageol varices - a.k.a. vericose

veins of the throat and nose. BUT, lupus can also cause ulcers of

the nasopharynx, in addition to the mouth. Ulcer in nose usually

=nosebleed for me. But your doc needs to be on top of it and should

do a scope just to be on the safe side. Hope I help a little.

Love,

CArole K

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I was having bloody noses BEFORE taking Armour. Since I've started taking

Armour, no problems!

Sometimes high blood pressure can cause bloody noses; mine is low though.

Sometimes really dry air can cause nose bleeds.

I was having problems with dry everything it seemed...dry skin, dry nose, dry

eyes, etc. Armour seems to have cleared everything up except the dry hands.

Sheila

Bliss Workz <blissworkz@...> wrote:

Did you just start Armour? If so that happened to me as well. I don't know

why but it ended after a month or so never to return. I have never had a

bloody nose before that except from hitting a tree while horseback

riding...lol..

A question

> I have had three bloody noses in the last 24 hours. They lasted a

> few minutes each time. I haven't had a bloody nose since I was a kid.

> Any ideas?

>

> Barb

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Isn't that weird? I have low BP too...no on the dry air... I'm right on the

coast and in Oregon, lol..

Thank you!

:o)

Re: nose bleeds

> I was having bloody noses BEFORE taking Armour. Since I've started taking

Armour, no problems!

>

> Sometimes high blood pressure can cause bloody noses; mine is low though.

>

> Sometimes really dry air can cause nose bleeds.

>

> I was having problems with dry everything it seemed...dry skin, dry nose,

dry eyes, etc. Armour seems to have cleared everything up except the dry

hands.

>

> Sheila

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Hello Barb,

My mother started getting bloody noses 3 in 4 days or so and she read

instructions on some myacalcin sp? she was taking and found that was the cause

of

it. She also takes pregnenalone...but she's checking with the dr. they said

they will probably want to change her prescription...Maybe it is something else

you are taking that is causing the bloody noses?

Blessings,

Loriann

> I have had three bloody noses in the last 24 hours. They lasted a

> > few minutes each time. I haven't had a bloody nose since I was a kid.

> > Any ideas?

> >

> > Barb

>

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Hi Cristal,

I am now 32 y/o and when I was growing up I suffered from a lot of nosebleeds,

sometimes 3/day. My father also went through the same thing. I went to many

doctors and basically they never found anything wrong with me other than some

capillaries were closer to the surface, when my allergies would act up

(sneezing, rubbing my nose, etc...) the vessel would break. I had my nose

cauterized several times but it always came back, it was always a temporary fix.

As with my father, as I got older my nosebleeds have subsided significantly, I

now get maybe 1 every 4 months and it is very, very minor. I guess they go away

with age, you outgrow them. When I was a teenager though they were pretty bad.

Things that seemed to trigger the nosebleeds the most, although I would get them

with no irritants present, like sitting in the movie theater perfectly

comfortable and down comes a gush of blood like as if I just had my nose busted

open (funny thing, when I did have my nose broken it did not bleed not even half

of what my worst nosebleeds were):

Dry heat; would dry out my nose terribly and I would always get one. To this

day I can't take radiated heat at all, especially at night.

Allergies; sneezing and rubbing your nose.

Pokes (or hits) on the nose.

Sleeping; for some reason I would get one at night very often and wake to find

dried blood all over.

Well to finally answer your question, no I don't think it is because of

candidiasis. Hopefully your son will outgrow them quickly. Honestly, I

wouldn't worry too much about it, in actuality you don't really lose any

significant amount of blood, it is just more of a pain in the rearend.

Keep us posted.

Todd

Beaver & Cristal DuBois <criseaver@...> wrote:

My 7yo is having nose bleeds (again) and I am wondering if this is related to

candidiasis or not?? His doctor once suggested it may be the cod liver oil or

garlic I was giving to him, but he's had neither of these in a while.

Cristal

Strip yourselves of your former nature...and be constantly renewed in the spirit

of your mind [having a fresh mental and spiritual attitude], and put on the new

nature created in God's image... (Eph. 4:22-24)

healthyhomemakers

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Hi again Cristal:

I agree with Todd. Candida causes a lot of things but I've never heard of

it causing nosebleeds.

Also, when I was young I had a lot of nosebleeds too and had to have my nose

cauterized. Like Todd, I outgrew them.

However, having said that, go with your gut feeling - if your son't

nosebleeds are too frequent and are worrying you that much, find another

doctor and get another opinion.

Also, your doctor saying that cod liver oil or garlic might have caused

nosebleeds is rather strange. In any research I've done, garlic and cod

liver oil and two of the most beneficial things you can ingest!! Sounds to

me like you're a conscientious parent.

And finally - go on curezone and ask s or one of the other natural

healers what they think. There's a lot of good information on that site -

www.curezone.com

Cheers - p

..

>

> Well to finally answer your question, no I don't think it is because of

candidiasis. Hopefully your son will outgrow them quickly. Honestly, I

wouldn't worry too much about it, in actuality you don't really lose any

significant amount of blood, it is just more of a pain in the rearend.

>

> Keep us posted.

>

> Todd

>

> Beaver & Cristal DuBois <criseaver@...> wrote:

> My 7yo is having nose bleeds (again) and I am wondering if this is related

to candidiasis or not?? His doctor once suggested it may be the cod liver

oil or garlic I was giving to him, but he's had neither of these in a while.

>

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Hi Cristal,

I used to get nose bleeds all the time too. It still

sometimes happens but I think it may have something to

do with EFA deficiency. I remember reading that

somewhere before. Duncan may have more insight into it

*8-)

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About one year after I was dx with AIH, I recalled a period of time - oh about

one month or so, that I had one nose bleed after another. I guess it is one of

the hazards of this disease. Once I began the treatment, they eased up.

However, they have begun again but I see the doctor so will ask her the next

time I see her

Debby

[ ] Nose bleeds

Hey everybody finally something i can ask if anyone else goes through

nosebleeds. I just started having them about 3 months ago.Sometimes it

is everyday for a few days, sometimes 2 or 3 a day. I had one again

this evening as i was trying to get something eat. I made a nice light

supper for everyone, and then i just felt that feeling and grabbed a

klennex and waited 15 minutes or so then it stopped.

The weird part is i am anemic right now. Well it is confusing. Just

thought i would ask and see what you all would say about it. B

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Hi debby, thanks for lettin gme know, i was curious about them and

when my husband told the doctor i had been having them he

immediately wante more bloodwork done, but we already new that it

low. I just couldn't understand why it was happening, i mean what am

i going through that is differrent right now compared to not having

them.you know? And it is only my right side of nose that is doing

it. Which everything only affects my right side accept the cysts on

my ovaries every month. Oh well,we are getting ready to have a bbq

at my mother in laws, i am not looking forward to. i woke up at nine

and by 10:30 was laying back down, couldnt sleep but am tired. So i

just went into the shower instead. I think it is going to be a long

afternoon.

Talk with you later.... bye.. BRENDA B

- In , <tdcc2000@...> wrote:

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> About one year after I was dx with AIH, I recalled a period of

time - oh about one month or so, that I had one nose bleed after

another. I guess it is one of the hazards of this disease. Once I

began the treatment, they eased up. However, they have begun again

but I see the doctor so will ask her the next time I see her

> Debby

> [ ] Nose bleeds

>

>

> Hey everybody finally something i can ask if anyone else goes

through

> nosebleeds. I just started having them about 3 months

ago.Sometimes it

> is everyday for a few days, sometimes 2 or 3 a day. I had one

again

> this evening as i was trying to get something eat. I made a nice

light

> supper for everyone, and then i just felt that feeling and

grabbed a

> klennex and waited 15 minutes or so then it stopped.

> The weird part is i am anemic right now. Well it is confusing.

Just

> thought i would ask and see what you all would say about it.

B

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I don't have full-blown nosebleeds but have times where I get choked and cough

up stuff that it is tinged with blood & /or blow my nose and it looks the same

way. Only once was it all blood. Just today, while I was using a public bathroom

& in the stall,

when I began one of these choking fits and had to wondering what would've

happened if things got any worse & no one could get to me. It's a scary feeling!

Imagine my surprise when we got home and I opened up the chat line, to find this

being the subject.

tdcc2000@... wrote:

About one year after I was dx with AIH, I recalled a period of time -

oh about one month or so, that I had one nose bleed after another. I guess it is

one of the hazards of this disease. Once I began the treatment, they eased up.

However, they have begun again but I see the doctor so will ask her the next

time I see her

Debby

[ ] Nose bleeds

Hey everybody finally something i can ask if anyone else goes through

nosebleeds. I just started having them about 3 months ago.Sometimes it

is everyday for a few days, sometimes 2 or 3 a day. I had one again

this evening as i was trying to get something eat. I made a nice light

supper for everyone, and then i just felt that feeling and grabbed a

klennex and waited 15 minutes or so then it stopped.

The weird part is i am anemic right now. Well it is confusing. Just

thought i would ask and see what you all would say about it. B

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