Re: need help with anxiety

October 6, 2006

Now that she's on the SCD, give us an idea what she is eating...or the main

things she's not eating not that she was eating before. B vitamins are

problematic for some. Check danaview.net for info on her experiences with that.

S S

My dd is 8yrs old. She has anxiety/SM. We did a hair test and ION

panel. She meets the counting rules & has high copper & lead. She

has sluggish conversion of FT4 to FT3 and high normal TSH but NP

didn't think anymore than fixing the deficiencies & getting metals

out would be needed. She had the following deficiencies: B5, folic

acid, iodine, selenium, magnesium, molybdenum, vanadium, omega 3's

We haven't started chelating yet. We needed to get supplements

introduced first. We introduced them one at a time about 1-2 weeks

apart. We didn't notice any obvious signs that she wasn't

tollerating them. We also started the SCD diet to prevent yeast

when introducing B vitamins. (she didn't have yeast overgrowth at

time of testing) We did noice a big negative change with starting

SCD that hasn't gone away & I don't think is " die off " . She is

having a horrible time at school with anxiety and " shutting down " .

She had been making progress at school up untill this yr. (this is a

new school for her and may all be due to that. but how to tell? we

are working with the school) Now we are worse than ever before. At

home she is no longer able to go to sleep alone and gets in our bed

everynight like when she was 3. She won't stay alone in any room of

the house and keeps asking if the doors are locked. (there is one

positive in all this-she is communicating better with us at home) We

are very concerned and actually considering meds at this point. But

I wanted to get input from all of you first. Here are her

supplements:

Lactobaacillus Sporogenes 1.5 bil CFU 1Xday

Olive leafe extract 250mg +250mg olive leaf 1Xday

Magnesium glycinate 200mg 3Xday

Kelp (iodine 400mcg) 1Xday

folacal 800mcg folinic acid 1Xday

P5P 50mg 1Xday

Ester C 1000mg 3Xday

Nordic Naturals ultimate omega 3Xday

zinc gluconate 25mg 1Xday

Unique E 400IU 1Xday

Selenium 200mcg 2xday

biotin 1000mcg 1xday

pro-bio gold 1xday

vanadium 5mg 1xday

taurine 500mg 1xday

We had her on inositol but didn't see any change in anxiety level

and saw increased bug phobia so we took her off.

I hate to say it but I feel like starting all this biomed stuff with

her has made her worse and What Have I Done??? I know we need to do

this though. I can't let her stay metals toxic. Any suggestions on

what to do? Anyone done anti-anxiety meds along with

supplements/chelation?

Thanks,

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October 6, 2006

Just hold tight and get ready to chelate!

>

> My dd is 8yrs old. She has anxiety/SM. We did a hair test and ION

> panel. She meets the counting rules & has high copper & lead. She

> has sluggish conversion of FT4 to FT3 and high normal TSH but NP

> didn't think anymore than fixing the deficiencies & getting metals

> out would be needed. She had the following deficiencies: B5, folic

> acid, iodine, selenium, magnesium, molybdenum, vanadium, omega 3's

> We haven't started chelating yet. We needed to get supplements

> introduced first. We introduced them one at a time about 1-2

weeks

> apart. We didn't notice any obvious signs that she wasn't

> tollerating them. We also started the SCD diet to prevent yeast

> when introducing B vitamins. (she didn't have yeast overgrowth at

> time of testing) We did noice a big negative change with starting

> SCD that hasn't gone away & I don't think is " die off " . She is

> having a horrible time at school with anxiety and " shutting

down " .

> She had been making progress at school up untill this yr. (this is

a

> new school for her and may all be due to that. but how to tell?

we

> are working with the school) Now we are worse than ever before.

At

> home she is no longer able to go to sleep alone and gets in our

bed

> everynight like when she was 3. She won't stay alone in any room

of

> the house and keeps asking if the doors are locked. (there is one

> positive in all this-she is communicating better with us at home)

We

> are very concerned and actually considering meds at this point.

But

> I wanted to get input from all of you first. Here are her

> supplements:

>

> Lactobaacillus Sporogenes 1.5 bil CFU 1Xday

> Olive leafe extract 250mg +250mg olive leaf 1Xday

> Magnesium glycinate 200mg 3Xday

> Kelp (iodine 400mcg) 1Xday

> folacal 800mcg folinic acid 1Xday

> P5P 50mg 1Xday

> Ester C 1000mg 3Xday

> Nordic Naturals ultimate omega 3Xday

> zinc gluconate 25mg 1Xday

> Unique E 400IU 1Xday

> Selenium 200mcg 2xday

> biotin 1000mcg 1xday

> pro-bio gold 1xday

> vanadium 5mg 1xday

> taurine 500mg 1xday

>

> We had her on inositol but didn't see any change in anxiety level

> and saw increased bug phobia so we took her off.

>

> I hate to say it but I feel like starting all this biomed stuff

with

> her has made her worse and What Have I Done??? I know we need to

do

> this though. I can't let her stay metals toxic. Any suggestions

on

> what to do? Anyone done anti-anxiety meds along with

> supplements/chelation?

>

> Thanks,

>

October 6, 2006

> Now that she's on the SCD, give us an idea what she is eating...or

the main things she's not eating not that she was eating before. B

vitamins are problematic for some. Check danaview.net for info on

her experiences with that.

> S S

>

,

Yes, the B's have been very problomatic for her that's why the NP

wanted her on SCD-to prevent yeast which she's always gotten before

when given B's. The P5P was the last introduced and we haven't seen

her typical signs of yeast yet but I do think its too soon to know.

We were on a typical crappy American diet up untill this summer when

we eliminated milk but not butter or cheese. We started eating GF

bread, waffles, & cereal but didn't eliminate all gluten. She was

eating a lot of pasta, her favorite food, and pringles & cheetos.

But she did also eat lots of fruits & veggies. She's not fond of

sweets. Now on SCD she eats scrambled eggs for breakfast or almond

flour/carrot waffles, lunch is a almond flour/carrot waffle too or

deviled eggs with salad or raw veggies, dinner is typically steak or

chicken grilled and veggies. As I'm typing this I'm wondering if

the almond flour is causing a problem because of the copper. Nuts

are high copper, right? We have been planning on going off of SCD

slowly if she stays yeast free. Our ds is going great on it though.

October 6, 2006

Yes, most nuts are high copper. Consider backing off the B vitamins for a while

and see if things calm down. I remember Dana writing that her kids didn't

tolerate B's until after she had chelated them for something like 50 rounds.

Hope you're using organic meat.