New to all of this

December 26, 2003

You can do colloidal silver as natural antibiotic:

http://chetday.com/colloidalsilvergenerator.htm

then probiotics for stomach candida:

http://www.cfsn.com/yavenge.html

then Rife and Zappers. The best/cheapest way is to buy

Frequency generator to use on its own as Zapper/pad device, then

upgrade to magnetic pulser, rife tube:

http://atelierrobin.tripod.com/#Mailing%20list

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/em7c.htm

Also learn some Yoga. Good excersise is good for recovery.

> Hi All,

> I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the

begining.

> I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well "

feels

> like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been

going

> down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and

> ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton

of

> antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I

never

> recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in

> 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and

it

> came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic

> Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked

my

> Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely.

But

> the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How

do

> I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any

> help would be great.

> KIm

December 26, 2003

Do as much reading and research on the subject, treatment, diet

ect... before you start so you can make educated decisions. Diet is

probably the easiest to start with but for a lot of people the

hardest to maintain.

> Hi All,

> I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the

begining.

> I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well "

feels

> like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been

going

> down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and

> ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton

of

> antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I

never

> recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in

> 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and

it

> came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic

> Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked

my

> Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely.

But

> the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How

do

> I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any

> help would be great.

> KIm

December 26, 2003

diet is good, but hardly cures candida,

but

check nutrition like green grass drink and greens in general,

balance,

minerals T.J. , calcium/magnesium,

avoid tap water,

if you get heartburns and stomach gets acidic (happens to people

under stress a lot), kill it with baking soda and lots of calcium,

but you need probiotics to restore natural flora.

**********************************************************

> > Hi All,

> > I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the

> begining.

> > I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well "

> feels

> > like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been

> going

> > down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then

and

> > ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a

ton

> of

> > antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I

> never

> > recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in

> > 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and

> it

> > came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for

Chronic

> > Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked

> my

> > Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely.

> But

> > the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So,

How

> do

> > I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties?

Any

> > help would be great.

> > KIm

December 27, 2003

Hi Kim,

Candida is the toughest parasite to get. We use 3Lac

http://www.ghtdirect.com/dolphindeb

and a strict diet free of sugars and yeast and their products. My wife is an NMT

Practitioner http://www.neuromodulationtechnique.com/ this has been very helpful

in treating Candida. We have experienced large clearings, but this is still not

enough even though she has not found any other microorganism she cannot

eliminate through NMT including SARS! In order to get answers from her client’s

autonomic nervous system she can use MRT (muscle response testing). We have

refined this testing system for years to the point where it is now very

reliable.

Blessings,

Murray

Kim H <kdharts@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the begining.

I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " feels

like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been going

down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and

ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton of

antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I never

recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in

1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and it

came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic

Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked my

Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. But

the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How do

I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any

help would be great.

KIm

December 28, 2003

Fibro , EBV , mono , and candida all are symptoms of thyroid

disease . The lowered defenses in hypothyroidism probably make one an

easy victim for candida , and also the repeated antibiotic treatments

one gets/needs when hypothyroid . In fact the symptom list of candida

is in many ways identical to the symptom list of thyroid .

ne in France

http://www.geocities.com/thyroide

> Hi All,

> I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the

begining.

> I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well "

feels

> like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been

going

> down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and

> ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton

of

> antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I

never

> recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in

> 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and

it

> came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic

> Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked

my

> Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely.

But

> the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How

do

> I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any

> help would be great.

> KIm

December 28, 2003

And what causes Hypothyroidism: Mercury toxicity. Ou bodies were perfect @

birth. Medicine and dentistry ruined them.

Stay positive (despite my negative comment).

-P

Please visit the Animal Resuce Site(http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home)

every day to give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- to an animal so

that they may enjoy their time on this planet.

Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood.

-- Marie Curie

>From: " susanne_75 " >Reply-candidiasis >To:

>candidiasis >Subject: Re: new to all of this

> >Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:41:19 -0000 > >Fibro , EBV , mono , and candida

>all are symptoms of thyroid >disease . The lowered defenses in

>hypothyroidism probably make one an >easy victim for candida , and also the

>repeated antibiotic treatments >one gets/needs when hypothyroid . In fact

>the symptom list of candida >is in many ways identical to the symptom list

>of thyroid . > >ne in France > >http://www.geocities.com/thyroide >

> > > > Hi All, > > I'm

>not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the >begining. > > I

>have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " >feels > >

>like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been >going > >

>down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and > >

>ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton >of > >

>antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I >never > >

>recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in > > 1985

>when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and >it > > came

>back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic > > Candida

>and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked >my > > Doc about

>the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. >But > > the more I

>read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How >do > > I start and

>where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any > > help would be

>great. > > KIm >

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January 26, 2004

Therese-

My daughter was diagnosed with pauci at 17 mos -- one knee affected. She started on Naprosyn. It didn't do much. We got her into remission with a joint injection. She was symptom-free for a year. It came back in the original knee, an ankle, wrist and elbow. She was diagnosed with iritis at the same time. We got all of that under control. Methotrexate did the trick that time. We just took her off all meds in December. She's been symptom-free for nearly two years. She is currently having a bout of iritis again despite the remission of the arthritis. So I'd agree pauci is the "best" you can have. We've been lucky to have two remissions. But you can't be sure that this is as bad as it'll ever be. It's very unpredictable. Right now I'm just thankful that we've managed to get it under control each time so far. I don't delude myself that it won't come back or expect that it won't get worse. I try to keep myself mentally prepared. But of course I keep hoping this is it -- no more arthritis. I know of others with pauci who see 's doctor who have been symptom-free for five or six years and have it come back. Hope this helps.

Diane (, 4, pauci)

January 26, 2004

Hi, Therese. My son also is pauci. It is a good thing that your daughter was diagnosed quickly. Your daughter is young, so the possibility of remission is there. However, if she cannot straighten her leg and limps, her disease is obviously not well controlled yet. She may at some point need a DMARD to prevent joint damage. Each child is different. Being ANA positive (my son is also) and being a girl she is statistically at a higher risk for eye complications. Uveitis, iritis being those. Our eye dr said you should be checked at least twice a year with a slit lamp test for seven years after diagnosis. Yes, with pauci it is true you do not have the fever or rash complications. Yet, pauci is life changing in its own way. You still can have the joint pain and problems. My son also had spondylitis added to his diagnosis as his tendons and back have become involved. So your daughter will need to be seen by a rheumy in order to control the disease. Different meds may be added or taken away as the disease goes along. I do know of a girl who had pauci as a young baby and now at 13 is symptom free. She takes no meds. Her mom is thankful and watches for any triggers, but so far she is doing well. But as some adults here with JRA have said, they believe you never quite outgrow it and need to be mindful that something could trigger symptoms. I would reccommend you read as much as you can, and stay in touch here. It is a treasure trove of information. Keep a journal of your daughters symptoms so when you see the dr you know how she felt. Learning about this disease has been such a help to me. Good luck and keep us informed. Hope some of this info helped, Michele (16,pauci & spondy)

-----Original Message-----From: and Therese Z. [mailto:maryfield@...] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: New to all of this

Hi-

I am new to all of this. Our 15 month old has been diagnosed with pauciarticular JRA. The only symptom she has is that one of her knees will not straighten all of the way and the other is slightly swollen. She does not walk yet but crawls and cruises (with a slight limp) around the furniture. She was just diagnosed and has been on naproxen for 1 1/2 weeks which seems to help with the pain, at least. We have been told that this is the best type of JRA to have, if you have to have it and to me it does seem like nothing compared to the other posts I have read here. She is ANA positive so we have been told she is at higher risk for eye disease. What I am wondering is if it would be realistic to think that this is as bad as it will get or are we likely to have more problems? Any chance she could go into remission and stay there? Will she have a hard time now learning to walk? The doctors keep saying each case is different. Is there anyone out there that has had a pretty easy time with a similar dignosis or has had a similar beginning with all sorts or twists, turns and complications? It would help me to mentally prepare if I could hear any stories from "real people" that may prepare me either way for what is (or isn't) to come...

Therese

January 26, 2004

Hi Therese,

My daughter Meaghan was diagnosed with pauci JRA at 19 months old. I know exactly how you feel. Right now she is in remission, but has begun to have a flare. However nothing is as bad as it was in the beginning. She started on naproxen too with no help. She was then put on 2 other medications and put in physical therapy. After physical therapy and getting an injection in her knee the swelling went down and she was able to move her knee better. She goes to the eye doctor every 6 months. (so far so good). She just saw her rheumy before Christmas and we were told she was in remission and we do not have to go back until December 2004. She was put on Bextra, Sulfasalazine, and Solaraze Gel. She is now off all medication but the Solarze Gel.

Please feel free to write anytime you may have questions.

New to all of this

Hi-

I am new to all of this. Our 15 month old has been diagnosed with pauciarticular JRA. The only symptom she has is that one of her knees will not straighten all of the way and the other is slightly swollen. She does not walk yet but crawls and cruises (with a slight limp) around the furniture. She was just diagnosed and has been on naproxen for 1 1/2 weeks which seems to help with the pain, at least. We have been told that this is the best type of JRA to have, if you have to have it and to me it does seem like nothing compared to the other posts I have read here. She is ANA positive so we have been told she is at higher risk for eye disease. What I am wondering is if it would be realistic to think that this is as bad as it will get or are we likely to have more problems? Any chance she could go into remission and stay there? Will she have a hard time now learning to walk? The doctors keep saying each case is different. Is there anyone out there that has had a pretty easy time with a similar dignosis or has had a similar beginning with all sorts or twists, turns and complications? It would help me to mentally prepare if I could hear any stories from "real people" that may prepare me either way for what is (or isn't) to come...

Therese

January 26, 2004

Dear Therese,

Hi, my daughter (now six) has pauci-articular JRA, and it has

been very, very mild (especially compared to what so many other

parents have to deal with). The way you describe your 15-month-old

sound SO much like at 15 months. is also ANA+, and

unfortunately, she developed the uveitis about a year and a half

after being diagnosed with JRA. Her uveitis is also relatively mild--

able to be controlled rather well.

I've come to the point where I can " roll with the punches " pretty

much, but to be honest, there are things that will still throw you!

After 's diagnosis, she responded so well to medication (she was

taking ibuprofen)--and I convinced myself we had seen the worst, and

that the rest of the journey of this disease would not be all that

bad. For me, I soon came to realize that there are many, many ups

and downs along the way. has been on a variety of medications,

and we recently discovered that her arthritis has spread (four years

after her diagnosis). We still sometimes deal with reactions to

medications (just last week, even!)--usually stomach-related.

I am in contact with many parents whose children have pauci-articular

JRA, and many, many of them have done so very well! The prognosis is

good. However, I'm a realist, and reality is that your daughter may

do very well and respond well to medication, and go into remission

within a relatively short time. It's also true, though, that this

disease can be very individualistic, and even pauci-articular JRA can

be a challenge to get under control and into remission.

I don't know if I'm saying all of this very well. I really need to

go start supper, so part of my mind is already in the kitchen and

looking at the clock, even as I sit here typing!

I created a web page, called 's JRA Page--it gives some

information, and there's also some pages that give the " Cliff Notes "

version of 's JRA journey. You can find it at

http://www.geocities.com/tlzeigler/sJRA.html . I don't know if

you will find that information helpful or not. I know when was

first diagnosed, I wanted to find others who had traveled a similar

path, to get a small picture of what the future might hold.

Please feel free to e-mail me.

Tammy

>

> Hi-

>

> I am new to all of this. Our 15 month old has been diagnosed with

pauciarticular JRA. The only symptom she has is that one of her knees

will not straighten all of the way and the other is slightly swollen.

She does not walk yet but crawls and cruises (with a slight limp)

around the furniture. She was just diagnosed and has been on naproxen

for 1 1/2 weeks which seems to help with the pain, at least. We have

been told that this is the best type of JRA to have, if you have to

have it and to me it does seem like nothing compared to the other

posts I have read here. She is ANA positive so we have been told she

is at higher risk for eye disease. What I am wondering is if it would

be realistic to think that this is as bad as it will get or are we

likely to have more problems? Any chance she could go into remission

and stay there? Will she have a hard time now learning to walk? The

doctors keep saying each case is different. Is there anyone out there

that has had a pretty easy time with a similar dignosis or has had a

similar beginning with all sorts or twists, turns and complications?

It would help me to mentally prepare if I could hear any stories

from " real people " that may prepare me either way for what is (or

isn't) to come...

>

> Therese

January 26, 2004

Hello to Therese.

I'm writing just to echo what Michele Tepper said, and to hope that the arthritis will be kind to your daughter. Our daughter is also pauci. She was diagnosed at 2 and a half, but had had symptoms before. She also can't straighten her leg. Her first attack lasted almost 6 months. During this time, the medics steadily increased her medication, up to 10mg piroxicam (feldene) daily, the maximum for her weight, as she is small for her age. The condition then began to ease somewhat. her knee stopped feeling hot and looking reddish, and she seemed not at all bothered about her limp, but her knee was still 30 degrees out of true, and slightly bent sideways. The medics then decided to move up a stage, to steroid/splint treatment. But while we were waiting for them to fix the appointment, the improvement speeded up, and they decided to wait and see.

She has since had almost 5 months of partial remission. Her medication is experimentally being reduced to 5mg, and the doctors hope that physiotherapy will straighten her knee, which at present is bent (now 10 degrees out) mainly through wasted muscles.

We don't know what lies ahead, but somehow arthritis has become an accepted part of our lives. Ottilie - who at first wouldn't co-operate with the doctors, is now a model patient, even submitting without complaint to the eye tests. She talks openly about her knee problem (but terrifies me every time she mentions a sore wrist or back). We've discovered that many people leading active and purposeful lives are lifelong arthritis sufferers - in some cases these are people we know, but didn't realise had this background.

I don't dare to say 'it gets easier', because Ottilie is 3 and we are only at the start of our journey and don't know what lies ahead for her. Also, we may now be in a honeymoon period - every time I say 'better' our doctor corrects this to 'arthritis inactive at present' or 'in remission'. But I think - or at least I hope - that, after a few knocks, you do get to take the condition on board.

Meanwhile, we take her swimming as often as we can, intend (but don't always succeed) in getting her through her daily exercise regime from the physio, and hope, when she is older, to get her riding lessons (she is wild about horses). Ottilie's younger sister is physically very well developed, so we have been trying to nurture a 'big sister' role which doesn't depend on physical superiority. We encourage her to enjoy books, songs and mentally-stretching pursuits, and do believe that we have a little girl with real strength of character. But, of course, we don't yet know how far this strength will be tested.

I hope things go well for your family. Dale

January 27, 2004

Hi Therese...

My son has a very similar story....

â€™s symptoms began with a swollen right thumb at eight months of age.

Initially, we were told it was nothing to worry about and that he must

â€œsuckâ€

his thumb. But after a couple weeks without any signs of improvement, we were

persistent about him having further testing, upon which the pediatrician

ordered blood work and x-rays. We were then referred to an orthopedic

specialist,

who performed a MRI and diagnosed with tenosynovitis and therefore

recommended surgery. Uncomfortable with the findings, we went for a second

opinion with another orthopedic specialist, and found he was not in agreement

with

the diagnosis, but at the same time could not explain what was wrong with our

son. He then referred us to Shrinerâ€™s Hospital and Boston Childrenâ€™s

Hospital in Massachusetts.

On May 23, 2001, just a few days after â€™s first birthday, we left

for Massachusetts. had two appointments with specialists that day,

one at Shrinerâ€™s Hospital in Springfield and the other at Boston Childrenâ€™s

Hospital in Boston. We only made it to the first one. It was at Shrinerâ€™s,

that

the orthopedic doctor examined our son and he too could not explain what was

wrong with his thumb. However, before we left, the pediatric rheumatologist

was asked to take a brief look at . In a matter of seconds, Dr. Deborah

Rothman examined â€™s entire body, not just his thumb, and discovered

swelling in two other joints, his right knee and left ankle. This was the first

time that anyone looked at our sonâ€™s entire body, and it was then that we knew

he was in a more dire situation. She told us would need a complete

evaluation to confirm what she believed to be Pauciarticular Juvenile

Rheumatoid Arthritis (JRA). Later tests confirmed that our son , just

twelve

months old, had Pauciarticular Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis and was ANA

positive.

was immediately prescribed anti-inflammatory medication which he

receives twice daily. In August of 2001, was given steroid joint

injections in his right knee and left ankle, which dramatically reduced his

joint

swelling and increased his range of motion. Currently, â€™s right knee

has begun to swell again, which often seems to cause morning stiffness, his

right thumb has shown little change, but his left ankle has shown improvement.

has follow-up appointments in Springfield, Massachusetts with the

rheumatologist and ophthalmologist every three months to monitor his joints and

to

ensure that his eyes are not being affected by the JRA.

It took us a long time to come to terms with the diagnosis. We did not

know that children, or even babies could get arthritis, but we now know through

our own childâ€™s experience, as many as 300,000 children suffer with this

disease today. It is not an â€œold personâ€™sâ€ disease as we once

thought......Kids

get arthritis too.

Will is now 3 1/2 yrs old and in another flair...we are going to back in for

jt imjections next week......I would love to try to help you/ talk

etc......you can email me directly if you want.....where do you live? we are in

Upstate

NY......

hope this helps....

January 27, 2004

Hi ,

Just wanted to wish you well, as you prepare for 's joint

injections next week. Will they be doing just his knee or other joints,

as well? I hope he'll have a very good response and will be feeling lots

better afterwards.

Take Care,

Georgina

laocme12@... wrote:

> Hi Therese...

>

> My son has a very similar story....

>

> â€™s symptoms began with a swollen right thumb at eight months of age.

> Initially, we were told it was nothing to worry about and that he must

â€œsuckâ€

> his thumb. But after a couple weeks without any signs of improvement, we were

> persistent about him having further testing, upon which the pediatrician

> ordered blood work and x-rays. We were then referred to an orthopedic

specialist,

> who performed a MRI and diagnosed with tenosynovitis and therefore

> recommended surgery. Uncomfortable with the findings, we went for a second

> opinion with another orthopedic specialist, and found he was not in agreement

with

> the diagnosis, but at the same time could not explain what was wrong with our

> son. He then referred us to Shrinerâ€™s Hospital and Boston Childrenâ€™s

> Hospital in Massachusetts.

>

> On May 23, 2001, just a few days after â€™s first birthday, we left

> for Massachusetts. had two appointments with specialists that day,

> one at Shrinerâ€™s Hospital in Springfield and the other at Boston

Childrenâ€™s

> Hospital in Boston. We only made it to the first one. It was at Shrinerâ€™s,

that

> the orthopedic doctor examined our son and he too could not explain what was

> wrong with his thumb. However, before we left, the pediatric rheumatologist

> was asked to take a brief look at . In a matter of seconds, Dr.

Deborah

> Rothman examined â€™s entire body, not just his thumb, and discovered

> swelling in two other joints, his right knee and left ankle. This was the

first

> time that anyone looked at our sonâ€™s entire body, and it was then that we

knew

> he was in a more dire situation. She told us would need a complete

> evaluation to confirm what she believed to be Pauciarticular Juvenile

> Rheumatoid Arthritis (JRA). Later tests confirmed that our son , just

twelve

> months old, had Pauciarticular Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis and was ANA

> positive.

>

> was immediately prescribed anti-inflammatory medication which he

> receives twice daily. In August of 2001, was given steroid joint

> injections in his right knee and left ankle, which dramatically reduced his

joint

> swelling and increased his range of motion. Currently, â€™s right knee

> has begun to swell again, which often seems to cause morning stiffness, his

> right thumb has shown little change, but his left ankle has shown improvement.

> has follow-up appointments in Springfield, Massachusetts with the

> rheumatologist and ophthalmologist every three months to monitor his joints

and to

> ensure that his eyes are not being affected by the JRA.

>

> It took us a long time to come to terms with the diagnosis. We did not

> know that children, or even babies could get arthritis, but we now know

through

> our own childâ€™s experience, as many as 300,000 children suffer with this

> disease today. It is not an â€œold personâ€™sâ€ disease as we once

thought......Kids

> get arthritis too.

>

> Will is now 3 1/2 yrs old and in another flair...we are going to back in for

> jt imjections next week......I would love to try to help you/ talk

> etc......you can email me directly if you want.....where do you live? we are

in Upstate

> NY......

>

> hope this helps....

>

January 28, 2004

Thanks Georgina....

they are doing his knee and ankle.....we were hoping to use aristospan like

we did before, but it is still off the market....the company told me they

expect to have it available mid 2004. We can't wait any longer, so I hope this

works.

thanks again....

(Mom to Will, Pauci, 3 1/2yrs. old)

September 18, 2004

Hi. I'm not an expert. But I might say that:

- it's probably not good to take prescription medications for this

- it requires lots of lifestyle changes

- it is a doggedly persistent problem, without an easy fix

- also, there is a lot of talk on this list about " liver cleanses " . It might

be a good thing, or maybe not. But don't just go with the flow on that one,

read and decide.

In a message dated 9/18/04 1:10:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

archerkd@... writes:

> Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to figure it out. I have

> changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a prescripiton for

> Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. I therefore got a

> yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My question is, will this

> work the same?

September 18, 2004

In the files section, check out the success stories. very very

valuable info there from people who have been there and done it, and

came out on the other side. check it out.

johng

> Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to figure it out. I

have

> changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a prescripiton for

> Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. I therefore got

a

> yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My question is, will this

> work the same?

September 18, 2004

Hi:

I don't know what reason your doctor had for not giving you Diflucan, but he

was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary fix - it will work for

awhile but eventually your Candida will come back with a vengeance.

(Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that is usually already

compromised if you have Candida)

The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food store might help to some

degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some type - but you'd probably

end up spending a lot of money over a long period of time and end up no

better off.

Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which you said you are doing,

good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will keep the Candida in

check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you want to permanently rid

yourself of Candida, then think about doing some cleanses. I know this

concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some reading in the archives

of this site and also check out www.curezone.com. You'll find many success

stories.

A growing number of people are also of the opinion that Candida has

proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you will, to rid your body of

an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for that toxicity are

mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an overburdened liver).

The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes for Candida - but the good

news is that with diligence and the right approach, you can rid yourself of

it.

To your good health - p

New to all of this

>

> Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to figure it out. I have

> changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a prescripiton for

> Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. I therefore got a

> yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My question is, will this

> work the same?

>

September 18, 2004

One of the best things for you to do to help you forst

off... if your problem is vaginal yeast infections or

external type yeast rashes... purchase a bottle of

Boric Acid. It usually only costs about $5 and has

saved me many times when I have gotten a yeast flare

up. Also if you have vaginal problems with burning,

itching, paper cut like tears, painful intercourse...

boric acid will help relieve all of that (atleast it

did for me) Also buy some empty gel capsules. You can

get them from the local health store or vitimin store

(size 0 or 00) fill them with boric acid and you can

use them as a convienient vaginal supporitory. Insert

one 2x a day (usually I do before bed and when I get

up) for 1-2 weeks depending on how bad your infection

is. This is just a crutch though, as the others said,

you have to really change your lifestyle to fix this

kind of problem... just using the boric acid, the

problem will eventually come back. If your yeast is

external (like eczema or a rash) You can just mix a

little water with the boric acid and apply it

topically ( I have never tried it but I don't see why

it wouldn't work... it works so well vaginally!) Hope

this helps

*8-)

--- penny martin <penelopea@...> wrote:

> Hi:

>

> I don't know what reason your doctor had for not

> giving you Diflucan, but he

> was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary

> fix - it will work for

> awhile but eventually your Candida will come back

> with a vengeance.

> (Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that

> is usually already

> compromised if you have Candida)

>

> The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food

> store might help to some

> degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some

> type - but you'd probably

> end up spending a lot of money over a long period of

> time and end up no

> better off.

>

> Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which

> you said you are doing,

> good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will

> keep the Candida in

> check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you

> want to permanently rid

> yourself of Candida, then think about doing some

> cleanses. I know this

> concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some

> reading in the archives

> of this site and also check out www.curezone.com.

> You'll find many success

> stories.

>

> A growing number of people are also of the opinion

> that Candida has

> proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you

> will, to rid your body of

> an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for

> that toxicity are

> mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an

> overburdened liver).

>

> The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes

> for Candida - but the good

> news is that with diligence and the right approach,

> you can rid yourself of

> it.

>

> To your good health - p

>

> New to all of this

>

> >

> > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to

> figure it out. I have

> > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a

> prescripiton for

> > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me.

> I therefore got a

> > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My

> question is, will this

> > work the same?

> >

September 20, 2004

I often use boric acid mixed with water on my eczema and it does work, very

well. No burning either, it's surprisingly mild. I don't know what I would do

without it.

" M. " <puhutes@...> wrote:One of the best things for you to do to

help you forst

off... if your problem is vaginal yeast infections or

external type yeast rashes... purchase a bottle of

Boric Acid. It usually only costs about $5 and has

saved me many times when I have gotten a yeast flare

up. Also if you have vaginal problems with burning,

itching, paper cut like tears, painful intercourse...

boric acid will help relieve all of that (atleast it

did for me) Also buy some empty gel capsules. You can

get them from the local health store or vitimin store

(size 0 or 00) fill them with boric acid and you can

use them as a convienient vaginal supporitory. Insert

one 2x a day (usually I do before bed and when I get

up) for 1-2 weeks depending on how bad your infection

is. This is just a crutch though, as the others said,

you have to really change your lifestyle to fix this

kind of problem... just using the boric acid, the

problem will eventually come back. If your yeast is

external (like eczema or a rash) You can just mix a

little water with the boric acid and apply it

topically ( I have never tried it but I don't see why

it wouldn't work... it works so well vaginally!) Hope

this helps

*8-)

--- penny martin <penelopea@...> wrote:

> Hi:

>

> I don't know what reason your doctor had for not

> giving you Diflucan, but he

> was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary

> fix - it will work for

> awhile but eventually your Candida will come back

> with a vengeance.

> (Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that

> is usually already

> compromised if you have Candida)

>

> The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food

> store might help to some

> degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some

> type - but you'd probably

> end up spending a lot of money over a long period of

> time and end up no

> better off.

>

> Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which

> you said you are doing,

> good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will

> keep the Candida in

> check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you

> want to permanently rid

> yourself of Candida, then think about doing some

> cleanses. I know this

> concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some

> reading in the archives

> of this site and also check out www.curezone.com.

> You'll find many success

> stories.

>

> A growing number of people are also of the opinion

> that Candida has

> proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you

> will, to rid your body of

> an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for

> that toxicity are

> mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an

> overburdened liver).

>

> The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes

> for Candida - but the good

> news is that with diligence and the right approach,

> you can rid yourself of

> it.

>

> To your good health - p

>

> New to all of this

>

> >

> > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to

> figure it out. I have

> > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a

> prescripiton for

> > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me.

> I therefore got a

> > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My

> question is, will this

> > work the same?

> >

September 20, 2004

Thanks for the feedback - I think I've figured out that I am in for

the long haul!!!

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > I don't know what reason your doctor had for not

> > giving you Diflucan, but he

> > was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary

> > fix - it will work for

> > awhile but eventually your Candida will come back

> > with a vengeance.

> > (Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that

> > is usually already

> > compromised if you have Candida)

> >

> > The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food

> > store might help to some

> > degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some

> > type - but you'd probably

> > end up spending a lot of money over a long period of

> > time and end up no

> > better off.

> >

> > Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which

> > you said you are doing,

> > good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will

> > keep the Candida in

> > check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you

> > want to permanently rid

> > yourself of Candida, then think about doing some

> > cleanses. I know this

> > concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some

> > reading in the archives

> > of this site and also check out www.curezone.com.

> > You'll find many success

> > stories.

> >

> > A growing number of people are also of the opinion

> > that Candida has

> > proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you

> > will, to rid your body of

> > an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for

> > that toxicity are

> > mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an

> > overburdened liver).

> >

> > The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes

> > for Candida - but the good

> > news is that with diligence and the right approach,

> > you can rid yourself of

> > it.

> >

> > To your good health - p

> >

> > New to all of this

> >

> > >

> > > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to

> > figure it out. I have

> > > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a

> > prescripiton for

> > > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me.

> > I therefore got a

> > > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My

> > question is, will this

> > > work the same?

> > >

October 7, 2005

Hi,

My name is Gail and my husband and I just recently lead a group on a

missions trip to Mexico. One of our team members is a spec. ed.

teacher and works with children with autism and asperger's

syndrome. She asked me if my son (age 10) was autistic. I told her

no and then through more conversation, I was thinking that maybe he

was. When we got home, I looked up some sites on the Internet and

after looking at the characteristics (he was at the minimum or more

on every one of them), my husband and I are convinced that he has

Asperger's Syndrome. It is funny because we have always said that

he was a kid that danced to the beat of a different drum. We have

always known he was different and with four kids, we have a few to

compare to. He has always been more of a loner and he does not like

making eye contact. Now that we have looked this information up,

all his little quirky things make sense, things like flapping his

hands, walking in circles, making motions like cracking his fingers

over and over again, not looking you in the eyes, etc. While we

were at the movie store yesterday, he was pacing forward one step

and backward one step over and over while choosing his game. We

always thought he had to go to the bathroom all the time. Recently,

before having any of this information, I was thinking that all of

these things he does were getting more pronounced and my husband

read on a wed site that things can get worse from ages 10 - 14 as

they entire the teenage years. Wow, my head is spinning but it is

good because all of these things he does are now making sense. We

did call our pediatrician and we have an appointment to talk to him

about it on October 17.

Anyway, I am totally new to all of this and found this site.

Thank you for letting me share. I look forward to reading the posts

here to gain more understanding.

Gail

October 7, 2005

Hello,

I have a child with AS age 8. I have just one question to ask, If O.k. with

you? No one (teachers) at your childs school brought up concerns to you about

your son?

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