Re: Elbow pain and cold allergy

[Guest guest]

I had ulnar palsy in both elbows. Since my surgeries on both elbows, I have

always had pain when the weather changed to cold.

Marie

[ ] Elbow pain and cold allergy

Hi all,

I've been having a lot of elbow pain lately and was wondering if the

location of my pain is typical for those of you who also have elbow

pain. It mostly hurts on the inside, actually the bone area closest

to my body -- in both elbows. Do any of you have pain in that

location as well?

I've also got another question. My husband has sarcoidosis that's in

remission, and in the past year or so he seems to have developed an

allergy to cold. Whenever the weather turns cold and he has to go

out in it, he gets a rash that's very itchy. When the weather warms

up it goes away. We've eliminated every other possible cause for it.

I did some research, and the Mayo Clinic has an article on cold

allergy, so I know it's possible. Have any of you experienced

this? He seems to believe that it's due to the autoimmune issues

his body is already experiencing, and I tend to agree.

I'm really having a lot of pain today --back, hands, wrists, elbows--

and am sitting at my desk trying to work to take my mind off of it.

I hope everyone else is having a better day.

Take care,

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[Guest guest]

,

Where does your husband's rash appear?

I'm sorry that you are in such pain. I hope it improves soon.

Not an MD

[ ] Elbow pain and cold allergy

> Hi all,

>

> I've been having a lot of elbow pain lately and was wondering if the

> location of my pain is typical for those of you who also have elbow

> pain. It mostly hurts on the inside, actually the bone area closest

> to my body -- in both elbows. Do any of you have pain in that

> location as well?

>

> I've also got another question. My husband has sarcoidosis that's in

> remission, and in the past year or so he seems to have developed an

> allergy to cold. Whenever the weather turns cold and he has to go

> out in it, he gets a rash that's very itchy. When the weather warms

> up it goes away. We've eliminated every other possible cause for it.

> I did some research, and the Mayo Clinic has an article on cold

> allergy, so I know it's possible. Have any of you experienced

> this? He seems to believe that it's due to the autoimmune issues

> his body is already experiencing, and I tend to agree.

>

> I'm really having a lot of pain today --back, hands, wrists, elbows--

> and am sitting at my desk trying to work to take my mind off of it.

> I hope everyone else is having a better day.

>

> Take care,

>

[Guest guest]

, sorry you are having one of those days.

I am in my big chair with a pillow behind me to use as a back brace and make me

closer to the computer, (laptop) which is on a little snack table, and have it

pulled up real close so I can sit up straight to try to type. I won't be here

long,as too long without getting up and moving around briskly (HAHAHA) I will

really get stiff to where it is painful to get up.

Beside me on a table, among other convenient items, is a wide mouthed

apothecary jar filled with rubbing alcohol in which ginger root, comfrey and a

tad of cayenne that I have tinctured for quite some time. I also have a fan

shaped art brush. I paint my wrists and fingers with this tincture and it

really helps. easier to do than using a heating pad. The benefit of the herbs

is amazing. It won't cure me, but any relief is a blessing.

The painful elbows are pretty normal I guess as a lot of folks seem to have that

problem. I had tennis elbow really bad and never really get totally over it. But

also had another thing with that area when I envisioned that I had torn a tendon

but it was just RA inflammation. So, the dr just called it tindonitus. I think

they should call RA the Dancer as it seems to dance all over one at its own

will. something like a wind sprite. I quit going to dr except for quarterly

blood tests as I just figure the current aggravation is another of the Dancer's

whims.

I'm sure you have considered it so I feel a bit foolish even mentioning it, but

could there be a fabric or chemical in his outdoor coat that could cause an

allergy? just a thought. Probably not, as I, too, can be freezing one minute and

sweating the next.

OK, hope you find time to rest and time to move about and get better.

I'm here too long.. gotta get up and make some more prepared meals.

granny lee.

---- susan100250 <res0bh3k@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I've been having a lot of elbow pain lately and was wondering if the

> location of my pain is typical for those of you who also have elbow

> pain. It mostly hurts on the inside, actually the bone area closest

> to my body -- in both elbows. Do any of you have pain in that

> location as well?

>

> I've also got another question. My husband has sarcoidosis that's in

> remission, and in the past year or so he seems to have developed an

> allergy to cold. Whenever the weather turns cold and he has to go

> out in it, he gets a rash that's very itchy. When the weather warms

> up it goes away. We've eliminated every other possible cause for it.

> I did some research, and the Mayo Clinic has an article on cold

> allergy, so I know it's possible. Have any of you experienced

> this? He seems to believe that it's due to the autoimmune issues

> his body is already experiencing, and I tend to agree.

>

> I'm really having a lot of pain today --back, hands, wrists, elbows--

> and am sitting at my desk trying to work to take my mind off of it.

> I hope everyone else is having a better day.

>

> Take care,

>

>

[Guest guest]

My husband gets a rash on his arms, legs, and torso mostly. But he

says he is just itchy all over. Benedryl seems to help quite a lot,

but doesn't totally take away the rash and itching. Until it dawned

on me that it might be an allergy and I suggested he try benedryl,

he was in total misery unable to sleep, and scratching himself to

the point of bleeding.

We tried everything we could think of -- changing his soap, the

detergent, clothing, even various other cleaning supplies around the

house, but the coincidence of the cold weather was just too weird.

He never had a problem in the summer. For quite awhile, he thought

it was dry skin, but slathering his skin with every kind of cream we

could think to try didn't help, either. Neither did the typical

sterioid creams for rashes. We live in Texas, though, so on warm

days in the winter he's fine and doesn't have a rash, but if it's

cold the next day and he's outside at all, he's miserable from a

rash and itching within just a few minutes.

Here's what it said on the Mayo Clinic site: " In some people, cold

temperatures trigger the release into the skin of histamines and

other chemicals made by the immune system. The cause isn't clear.

But some people appear to have overly sensitive histamine-containing

skin cells. "

I'd just never heard about it before -- I don't suppose it's very

common.

> Where does your husband's rash appear?

[Guest guest]

HI,

It sounds like you have a good system! I also try to make myself as

comfortable as possible so I'm always on the lookout for new ideas.

Does the tincture every irritate your skin?

>

> , sorry you are having one of those days.

> I am in my big chair with a pillow behind me to use as a back

brace and make me closer to the computer, (laptop) which is on a

little snack table, and have it pulled up real close so I can sit up

straight to try to type. I won't be here long,as too long without

getting up and moving around briskly (HAHAHA) I will really get

stiff to where it is painful to get up.

>

> Beside me on a table, among other convenient items, is a wide

mouthed apothecary jar filled with rubbing alcohol in which ginger

root, comfrey and a tad of cayenne that I have tinctured for quite

some time. I also have a fan shaped art brush. I paint my wrists

and fingers with this tincture and it really helps. easier to do

than using a heating pad. The benefit of the herbs is amazing. It

won't cure me, but any relief is a blessing.

>

> The painful elbows are pretty normal I guess as a lot of folks

seem to have that problem. I had tennis elbow really bad and never

really get totally over it. But also had another thing with that

area when I envisioned that I had torn a tendon but it was just RA

inflammation. So, the dr just called it tindonitus. I think they

should call RA the Dancer as it seems to dance all over one at its

own will. something like a wind sprite. I quit going to dr except

for quarterly blood tests as I just figure the current aggravation

is another of the Dancer's whims.

>

> I'm sure you have considered it so I feel a bit foolish even

mentioning it, but could there be a fabric or chemical in his

outdoor coat that could cause an allergy? just a thought. Probably

not, as I, too, can be freezing one minute and sweating the next.

> OK, hope you find time to rest and time to move about and get

better.

> I'm here too long.. gotta get up and make some more prepared meals.

> granny lee.

[Guest guest]

,

I've been on that ride also, and so has my husband. We are Benedryl junkies.

(LOL) I have found over the years that I sometimes need large doseage, always

at least 50 mg and up repeated as many times as necessary which may be ever 4-6

hours. Some people are so sleepy with it they can't tolerate it like that

except when they are going to bed. Side note: Did you know Tylenol PM is

Tylenol + 25 mg of Benadryl, an expensive way to buy benadryl and tylenol. But

that does service as a sleep aid to some.

For me...maybe no one else, I have had situations where I had a bad drug

reaction and they give me Benadyl shots, which act faster, and a couple hundred

mg or more Benadryl. If I don't hit it with Benadryl the problem continues and

along with the itching I have high temperatures.

Some things are on the spot triggers. Ant bite, I need it fast, my husband

encounters any mold he really needs it fast or he can't breathe. If he ever

opens a package of cheese in seconds he is having breathing problem. If our

loaf of bread is a little old I take it outside and look at it for mold. If

there is any he has problems. Needless to say he carries some in his pocket. I

know some have to carry epinephrin but Benadryl works for us.

I am not suggesting doseages but if there are still problems try slowly adding

more Benadryl. 25 mg does absolutely nothing for me. I could be that I have

built up a resistance that makes me take more but I consider " high " doses safe.

Betty

My husband gets a rash on his arms, legs, and torso mostly. But he

says he is just itchy all over. Benedryl seems to help quite a lot,

but doesn't totally take away the rash and itching. Until it dawned

on me that it might be an allergy and I suggested he try benedryl,

he was in total misery unable to sleep, and scratching himself to

the point of bleeding.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the tips, Betty! I'll check on the dosage he's taking ---

I don't think he's even taking the maximum listed on the bottle, so

taking more at bedtime might be a good solution.

>

> ,

> I've been on that ride also, and so has my husband. We are

Benedryl junkies. (LOL) I have found over the years that I sometimes

need large doseage, always at least 50 mg and up repeated as many

times as necessary which may be ever 4-6 hours. Some people are so

sleepy with it they can't tolerate it like that except when they are

going to bed. Side note: Did you know Tylenol PM is Tylenol + 25 mg

of Benadryl, an expensive way to buy benadryl and tylenol. But that

does service as a sleep aid to some.

>

> For me...maybe no one else, I have had situations where I had a bad

drug reaction and they give me Benadyl shots, which act faster, and a

couple hundred mg or more Benadryl. If I don't hit it with Benadryl

the problem continues and along with the itching I have high

temperatures.

>

> Some things are on the spot triggers. Ant bite, I need it fast, my

husband encounters any mold he really needs it fast or he can't

breathe. If he ever opens a package of cheese in seconds he is

having breathing problem. If our loaf of bread is a little old I

take it outside and look at it for mold. If there is any he has

problems. Needless to say he carries some in his pocket. I know

some have to carry epinephrin but Benadryl works for us.

>

> I am not suggesting doseages but if there are still problems try

slowly adding more Benadryl. 25 mg does absolutely nothing for me.

I could be that I have built up a resistance that makes me take more

but I consider " high " doses safe.

> Betty

[Guest guest]

---- susan100250 <res0bh3k@...> wrote:

> HI,

> It sounds like you have a good system! I also try to make myself as

> comfortable as possible so I'm always on the lookout for new ideas.

> Does the tincture every irritate your skin?

>

no. been using it for a number of years, and no side effects . My skin is like

most old ladies, very thin and in the winter gets pretty dry, but the tincture

doesn't add to the drying. I find that most of the skin emollients have a lot of

'added natural ingredients " that don't seem to benefit me, so I, after a good

hot shower, sometimes moisten my hands lightly with mineral oil or odorless

castor oil and rub on every where I can reach. I heard years ago that the burn

clinic (the guys with the red hats have in maybe Philadelphia, Masons or the

other brotherhood,) use one of these oils, I think the castor oil, on burns

which holds down the scarring.

I just chop ginger root up fine or buy the ground ginger root, put it in a quart

jar, add some ground comfrey leaf and a bit of cayenne, pour a bottle of

rubbing alcohol over it, shake, let it set in a dark cool place, shaking about

once a day for maybe 2 weeks and it works good. You can decant it, but the

materials settle to the bottom any way so to me it isn't a bother. Some can take

more cayenne than others, so go lightly un till you find your best amount. My

neighbor lady loves it and I put less cayenne in hers as she can't use the

capsaicin (?) she had bought at the drug store. This can be used earlier, but it

is best when it sets. the longer the stronger, as the alcohol will evaporate

along the way. can just add more alcohol if needed.

granny lee

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the recipe! I'll try it.

> no. been using it for a number of years, and no side effects . My

skin is like most old ladies, very thin and in the winter gets pretty

dry, but the tincture doesn't add to the drying. I find that most of

the skin emollients have a lot of 'added natural ingredients " that

don't seem to benefit me, so I, after a good hot shower, sometimes

moisten my hands lightly with mineral oil or odorless castor oil and

rub on every where I can reach. I heard years ago that the burn

clinic (the guys with the red hats have in maybe Philadelphia, Masons

or the other brotherhood,) use one of these oils, I think the

castor oil, on burns which holds down the scarring.

>

> I just chop ginger root up fine or buy the ground ginger root, put

it in a quart jar, add some ground comfrey leaf and a bit of

cayenne, pour a bottle of rubbing alcohol over it, shake, let it set

in a dark cool place, shaking about once a day for maybe 2 weeks and

it works good. You can decant it, but the materials settle to the

bottom any way so to me it isn't a bother. Some can take more cayenne

than others, so go lightly un till you find your best amount. My

neighbor lady loves it and I put less cayenne in hers as she can't

use the capsaicin (?) she had bought at the drug store. This can be

used earlier, but it is best when it sets. the longer the stronger,

as the alcohol will evaporate along the way. can just add more

alcohol if needed.

> granny lee

>

[Guest guest]

I use baby oil. I do not dry off after a shower but put oil " everywhere " and

the blot dry. That leaves moisture traped on the skin.

I have tried lots of different creams and many just make me greasy. But WalMart

has Fruit of the Earth vitamin E cream that is inexpensive and my skin drinks it

in. They also have the same with cocoa butter instead of vitamin E. These come

in both creams and lotions.

Betty

been using it for a number of years, and no side effects . My skin is like most

old ladies, very thin and in the winter gets pretty dry, but the tincture

doesn't add to the drying. I find that most of the skin emollients have a lot of

'added natural ingredients " that don't seem to benefit me, so I, after a good

hot shower, sometimes moisten my hands lightly with mineral oil or odorless

castor oil and rub on every where I can reach. I heard years ago that the burn

clinic (the guys

[Guest guest]

that sounds good. used to use that, guess I just forgot about it as time went

on. thanks for reminding me. guess i willget ssome and try t out. it is probably

even fner than the mineral oil, probably a refined M O. Shea butter is

pretty good but a bit pricie here. at least compared to the baby oil and mineral

oil.

granny lee

---- Betty <bvanOmega@...> wrote:

> I use baby oil. I do not dry off after a shower but put oil " everywhere " and

the blot dry. That leaves moisture traped on the skin.

>

> I have tried lots of different creams and many just make me greasy. But

WalMart has Fruit of the Earth vitamin E cream that is inexpensive and my skin

drinks it in. They also have the same with cocoa butter instead of vitamin E.

These come in both creams and lotions.

> Betty

>

[Guest guest]

, does your husband have any other diagnoses? I have read some things

about reactions to cold like that (cold urticaria) in people who have

cryoglobulinemia (which can be associated with hepatitis C, for example).

What was he treated with for his sarcoidosis?

Not an MD

[ ] Re: Elbow pain and cold allergy

> My husband gets a rash on his arms, legs, and torso mostly. But he

> says he is just itchy all over. Benedryl seems to help quite a lot,

> but doesn't totally take away the rash and itching. Until it dawned

> on me that it might be an allergy and I suggested he try benedryl,

> he was in total misery unable to sleep, and scratching himself to

> the point of bleeding.

>

> We tried everything we could think of -- changing his soap, the

> detergent, clothing, even various other cleaning supplies around the

> house, but the coincidence of the cold weather was just too weird.

> He never had a problem in the summer. For quite awhile, he thought

> it was dry skin, but slathering his skin with every kind of cream we

> could think to try didn't help, either. Neither did the typical

> sterioid creams for rashes. We live in Texas, though, so on warm

> days in the winter he's fine and doesn't have a rash, but if it's

> cold the next day and he's outside at all, he's miserable from a

> rash and itching within just a few minutes.

>

> Here's what it said on the Mayo Clinic site: " In some people, cold

> temperatures trigger the release into the skin of histamines and

> other chemicals made by the immune system. The cause isn't clear.

> But some people appear to have overly sensitive histamine-containing

> skin cells. "

>

> I'd just never heard about it before -- I don't suppose it's very

> common.

[Guest guest]

My husband's sarcoidosis was caught by accident when he went in for a

chest x-ray a few years ago before an operation. They found

granulomas and sent him to a pulmonologist who did extense tests. At

the same time, he had rosacea on his face and almost constant iritis,

which finally improved after an opthamologist injected several

steriod shots into his eyes. No one put the symptoms together until

the pulmonologist diagnosed the sarcoid.

The last x-ray showed that his lungs have scars but no active

disease. He has had bleeding ulcers, though, and still has to have

treatment for the rosacea on his face, so I doubt if the sarcoid is

completely gone. He's been having a lot of joint pain lately, too,

but he's never been to a rheumatologist, and I hate to start him down

that path if he doesn't need it! I know what a frustrating journey

that can be.

The weird thing is that his sister, whom we are both very close to,

also has sarcoid. She also had to have knee replacement surgery a

few months before I did and was diagnosed with a macular hole a few

months after I was. My husband's only other close relative, a cousin,

has RA like I do. And we don't even live in the same state! I'm

sure it's just a coincidence, but it is kind of weird.

Thanks for your ideas and input,

--- In , " " <Matsumura_Clan@...>

wrote:

> , does your husband have any other diagnoses? I have read some

things

> about reactions to cold like that (cold urticaria) in people who

have

> cryoglobulinemia (which can be associated with hepatitis C, for

example).

> What was he treated with for his sarcoidosis?

[Guest guest]

HI ,

When my husband first went to a dermatologist, he wasn't yet diagnosed

with sarcoidosis, and the dermatologist said it was rosacea. Now,

however, I'm guessing that it's connected to the sarcoidosis, since skin

is one of the common sites affected. I should check with my husband and

see if he ever told the dermatologist that he has sarcoid. He tends not

to volunteer information like that unless he's asked a direct

question. :-)

Thanks for thinking about that.

--- In , " " <Matsumura_Clan@...>

wrote:

> ,

> Why do they think the rash on his face is rosacea and not sarcoidosis?