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Does oral thrush involve a thick or a thin coating? Mine is thin but

impossible to get rid of.

I'm also very prone to developing canker sores, which hurt a lot. Could that

be Candida related?

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>From: ethansc@...

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>Subject: Re: Candida books.. what's good?

>Date: vier., 19 ener 2001 03:42

>

> Paco,

>

> I don't have those symptoms but maybe it's oral thrush. Anyway, you

> should ask your question in a new thread/message and maybe it will

> get answered.

>

>

>> >> Hello everyone I'm just another candida sufferer and i'm looking

>> > for

>> >> some good books. There seem to be quite a few on candida.

>> >>

>> >> What's a good book to explain basically what candida is, how it

>> >> overgrows and the problems it can cause?

>> >>

>> >> What's a good book of RECIPES for 'ok to eat on candida diet'

> food?

>> > I

>> >> am so tired of eating the same things.

>> >>

>> >> Any input welcome, even if you just know that there is book that

>> >> ISN'T any good.

>> >>

>> >> thanks

>> >

>> >

>> > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you

> want to

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Have you tried L-lysine for your canker sores? My husband

gets them almost monthly and he takes about 500 mg. 3 times

a day and first it reduces the pain and then they disappear.

Do a search on this. LIZ

Re: Candida books.. what's good?

>Date: vier., 19 ener 2001 03:42

>

> Paco,

>

> I don't have those symptoms but maybe it's oral thrush. Anyway, you

> should ask your question in a new thread/message and maybe it will

> get answered.

>

>

>> >> Hello everyone I'm just another candida sufferer and i'm looking

>> > for

>> >> some good books. There seem to be quite a few on candida.

>> >>

>> >> What's a good book to explain basically what candida is, how it

>> >> overgrows and the problems it can cause?

>> >>

>> >> What's a good book of RECIPES for 'ok to eat on candida diet'

> food?

>> > I

>> >> am so tired of eating the same things.

>> >>

>> >> Any input welcome, even if you just know that there is book that

>> >> ISN'T any good.

>> >>

>> >> thanks

>> >

>> >

>> > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you

> want to

>> > UNSUBSCRIBE !

>> >

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i have some liquid nyastin for oral thrush, is this any good for the rest of

the candida, or is it just work on the oral.

is anyone else have oral thrush alot before starting the anti- yeast diet.

Donna Jean

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hi,

no i do not use an inhaler, i just quit smoking and it seems a little better

since then, i am having the hardest time with the sugar cravings, does anyone

use any form of appetite suppresant or something to control sugar, carb

cravings, i cannot seem to lick this.

thanks

Donna Jean

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In a message dated 08/22/2001 10:45:46 PM Central Daylight Time,

spookyspunky@... writes:

> , does anyone

> use any form of appetite suppresant or something to control sugar

chromium picolinate....chromium helps to normalize blood sugar and its best

taken with picolinate. also, a swig of olive oil will help....i have found

that not all olive oils are created equal...u have to taste different ones to

find the best tasting....you can also tell quite a difference in taste when u

use them on salads.

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I had thrush for a while.. it was incredibly painful and I lived on liquids

for a week, warm liquids ugh

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I've been looking through the archives because I remember this

discussion coming up once before, but I can't find it.

Someone had a cure for thrush. Something to suck on, some kind of

lozenge maybe.

Please e-mail me directly at syrene@... as I am having problems

(AGAIN) recieving e-mail.

Thanks.

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Hi,

Why have you been having so many HIV tests?

Please I am prying alittle not judgeing.

I had a family member am uncle that was guy and died from aids so I am open

to the talk.

Do you have the symptoms for candida overgrowth?

You should take the spit test tomorrow morning. You must first thing before

putting anything in your mouth spit in a CLEAR glass of water. If within 30-45

mintues the water turns cloudy and or you have stringy thing looking like

leggs you know you have this problem. You need to do some research regarding

candida.

You may also benefit by doing a liver flush.

go to <A HREF= " www.curezone.com " >www.curezone.com</A> and check out the candida

forum and there is alot of

great forums there.

My name their is raider.

God bless,mona

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Hi Mona,

Thanks for the reply.

I have had 12 HIV tests over the last two years and they are all negative,

but I only got thrush after I stated doing the tests.

I am taking two garlic tablets three times a day and gargle with tea tree

three times a day.

I seem to have good days and bad days, but my vision is really bothering me.

I don't know what else to try?

ta

Mike

oral thrush

Dear Mike,

Oral thrush ( white coating on the tounge)

Is also caused by over growth of yeast usually caused from candida most who

have this do not have HIV it is usually caused from

antibiotics,stress,poordiet.

Also sometimes the white tongue is caused from our livers being toxic. there

are more reasons then HIV for this problem.

What are you taking for this problem?\

Blessings,mona

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HI Mike,

Oral trush is a simptom from a lot of disease, but not only AIDS, if you are HIV

negative and you are not in a risk group it is possible that the trush are

related to other diseases, (well, first are you sure that the trush are due to

candida? I mean a culture positive to C albicans from the plaques), some of this

disease may be Diabetes, corticosteroid therapy (immunosupressive therapy),

thiroid disease, endocrine disease, some proble at the thymus level, Chronic

mucocutaneous candidiasis, or you are under high stress and this are related

also to candidiasis oral.

Your age are important also, because if you are under the 20 years, or you are

older than 20 or 30 years, it can be discarted some of this reasons. I think

that the first step is make a complete Endocrinologic test because is the more

common assosiation with oral trhush due to candida.

in the other patients who suffer from Chronic mucocutaneous candidiasis, are in

the life treating for this with azole 200mg daily.

Mateo

email01@... wrote:

Hi All,

Is it possible for a man to suffer from oral thrush for a year and a half

and still be HIV negative?

Ta

Mike

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I'm copying over my post from a past thread, on this issue, in case someone

reading this entry might have missed it.

I've made some additions to that original post, as well.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

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Hi! :-)

I hope that I can be of some help on this issue -- I had oral thrush some

years back, when my own candida overgrowth was very bad. Ecological

Formulas brand Orithrush-D liquid concentrate was what I used to clear it

up.

The concentrate form is how I purchased it, and then I diluted it myself

with filtered water. However, I've just noticed in an internet search that

Orithrush-D gargle is now available, as well.

I'm not sure that the gargle formula can be swallowed, but I know that you

can gargle with the diluted concentrate version, and swallow afterward.

I've tried food grade hydrogen peroxide for candida overgrowth issues, but

it always made them worse. (It especially made the 'intestinal earthquake'

sensations more prominent afterwards, when my candida overgrowth was quite

severe.)

Nystatin, same thing. Then again, food grade hydrogen peroxide is an

antibiotic. And Nystatin has a strong antifungal component, but is mixed

with an antibiotic, as well.

I've not used ThreeLac, but I know that it contains sugar, so I'm avoiding

the temptation to give it a try.

A brainstorm -- Caprylic Acid capsules or tablets ... they taste pretty

yucky, but I'd be willing to bet that they might work reasonably well on

oral thrush, if, say the tablet were crushed, mixed with a bit of water to

make a paste, and then spread across the afflicted areas. (Alternatively,

with enough water added to the crushed tablet, one could make a caprylic

acid mouth gargle.) The trick would be figuring out how much to use each

day, I'm thinking, and how often to dose oneself.

I'm a big brainstormer -- for years now I've been wondering about oral

thrush and trying to determine if a few emptied-out acidophilus capsules,

with their contents swished about in the mouth for a few minutes at a time

and then swallowed, might be of some benefit?

Another brainstorm -- I've read that products like Vicks VapoRub is

anti-fungal in nature. It contains camphor, eucalyptus oil and menthol.

So, I wonder ... since it contains menthol -- yet it cannot be placed in the

mouth and swallowed -- perhaps another product containing menthol might

work, if the menthol in question could be placed into the mouth to sit there

for a bit? Like, say, Halls MenthoLyptus (sugar-free) cough drops, for

example?

Or, maybe a mouthwash that contains menthol might work? I have Tom's brand

alcohol-free mouthwash, here, and it contains menthol, witch hazel, etc.

As a disclaimer ... I do not have any financial interest in any of the

products listed in this post, nor in the companies that sell them.

Hope something that I've written here helps someone!

If anyone gives any of these brainstorms of mine a try, please report back

here! And thanks!

Cecilia

:+)

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Oral Thrush

> Help, I cannot get rid of it. Taking oil of oregano,garlic

> tablets,mouthwashing w/ Hydrogen peroxide. Have reduced sugar. Blood

> work showed nothing,endoscopy/colonoscopy showed some

> diverticulosis/gastritis. I have had all the nasty symptoms.Was put on

> nystantin did nothing.The dulcavan helped but ran out. What should I

> do?

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An interesting page I just found:

http://www.insensual.com/mintmenthol.html

Mint and Menthol General Information

The French called Mint  " the plant of happiness, " and the Roman scholar

Pliny said the mere smell of Mint could invigorate the soul. The ancient

Greeks used this fragrant herb in their temple rite and as a symbol of

hospitality. In the 1600s, Peppermint was deliberately bred in England, and

became the tasty plant known so well today, but only became important

medicinally around the 18th century. There are many species of Mint;

however, the Peppermint and Japanese Mints are the most economically

important. Both of them contain Menthol, which is the primary medicinal

benefit of this plant. Menthol promotes digestion by stimulating the flow of

bile to the stomach, and it also calms the muscles of the digestive system

to help relieve stomach upsets. Spearmint does not contain Menthol and is

used mainly for flavoring.

Assuming that this information is correct, perhaps naturally-flavored,

sugar-free peppermints might work on oral thrush? (Another brainstorm.)

:-)

Cecilia

:+)

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A friend's baby had thrush. After a few weeks of antibiotics and then

some other medicine he still had it. I suggested homeopathy to her so

she went to a naturopath and was given camomilia 6c. The thrush was

gone in three days. Yeah for the natural path.

This mom got so into homeopathy after this that she now has more

bottles for things than I do :)

> Oral Thrush

>

>

> > Help, I cannot get rid of it. Taking oil of oregano,garlic

> > tablets,mouthwashing w/ Hydrogen peroxide. Have reduced sugar. Blood

> > work showed nothing,endoscopy/colonoscopy showed some

> > diverticulosis/gastritis. I have had all the nasty symptoms.Was put on

> > nystantin did nothing.The dulcavan helped but ran out. What should I

> > do?

>

>

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I had oral thrush while on chemotherapy and they gave me a certain mouthwash

they give to patients on chemo but I don't know what it was called. It got rid

of the thrush completely.

I also use Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash and take acidophilus and other

probiotics. I like the UltraFlora Plus dairy free brand but there are many

available at places like Whole Foods. The powder really seems to work better

than the capsules because you can swish it around with water in your mouth

before swallowing.

Hope this helps

Lori

[] Oral thrush

Hello, I have been fighting oral thrush for as long as I can remember -

which keeps returning. Anyone had this and how did you get rid of

it? I am on Welchol from Dr. Shoemaker @ this time and feeling so-so.

Thanks, JB

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I also use nystatin swish and swallow. it is a prescription.

Lori Baur <lori@...> wrote: I had oral

thrush while on chemotherapy and they gave me a certain mouthwash they give to

patients on chemo but I don't know what it was called. It got rid of the thrush

completely.

I also use Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash and take acidophilus and other

probiotics. I like the UltraFlora Plus dairy free brand but there are many

available at places like Whole Foods. The powder really seems to work better

than the capsules because you can swish it around with water in your mouth

before swallowing.

Hope this helps

Lori

[] Oral thrush

Hello, I have been fighting oral thrush for as long as I can remember -

which keeps returning. Anyone had this and how did you get rid of

it? I am on Welchol from Dr. Shoemaker @ this time and feeling so-so.

Thanks, JB

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I think the nystatin is also what I took. It worked wonderfully.

[] Oral thrush

Hello, I have been fighting oral thrush for as long as I can remember -

which keeps returning. Anyone had this and how did you get rid of

it? I am on Welchol from Dr. Shoemaker @ this time and feeling so-so.

Thanks, JB

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I use Nystatin swish ans swirl for oral thrush. I was on sporanox but my

liver count became to high and I had to stop.

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I ALWAYS have oral thrucsh. Diflucan didnt work for me this time so I am on

sporanox This seems to be helping but I have to start slow on it as too much at

once makes me sick.

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I know someone else who had problems with thrush. Their doctor told

them to use mouthwash with alcohol (like Listerine). At another visit,

the doctor told them to try swishing Mylanta in their mouth 2-3 times

per day for several days. That took care of it. I'm sure it depends

on what is causing the thrush.

--- In , " janebair73 " <janebair73@...>

wrote:

>

> Thanks Janet, I'll see if pc physican will give it to me. This is a

> prescription right? Sporanox tablets, liquid rinse? I appreciate

your

> help.

>

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There was a doctor who has long been deceased who made up a compound

liquid called " Dr Gellispie (SP) Mouthwash. " That stuff would clear up

any oral thrush. I know it had Nystatin, benedryl, mayloxx (I think)

and maybe other stuff. One was to swish this stuff in their mouth and

either spit it out or swallow...eather way, it always cleared up thrush

and relieved irritations. If you want this formula, it is possible one

could call one of the pharmacies in SC and get it. I believe

one will have better luck with a private phramacy in obtaining the

formula. The newer pharmacies may not know. I used the formula just

last year but can't remember which drug store made it up for me. Of

course, one will need a prescription but a doctor should be able to

write this and one can take it to their pharmacy and call a pharmacy

here to get the formula. I would do my home work first to see which

pharmacy has the formula.

--- In , " janebair73 " <janebair73@...>

wrote:

>

> Thank you for answering my post. I am trying white vinegar

now

> and may use back up of Mylanta. Appreciate it and best to all, Jane

>

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Yea I have the thrush. I have tried rinsing with vinegar when my tongue

was really bothering me. The vinegar did burn a little but it seemed

to take the burn away. Don't know if it is good, but I also put vinegar

on my toes after a shower just for preventive fungal in the toes. Of

course everyone is different.

--- In , " janebair73 " <janebair73@...>

wrote:

>

> Thank you for answering my post. I am trying white vinegar

now

> and may use back up of Mylanta. Appreciate it and best to all, Jane

>

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The vinegar or any other mouthwash will only take care of what is on

the surface. This is obviously telling me and you, to know surprise,

that there is a deeper infection.(systemic) Of course, not having any

medical background this is only my opinion and the correct medication

to correct this most likely would have to be prescribed. You took care

of it on the surface and I hope that was the hard part, but now it has

to be taken care of internally. Got to start somewhere.

KC

--- In , " janebair73 " <janebair73@...>

wrote:

>

> Ok - I tried the vinegar rinse for a while and oral thrush came back.

> Now I am using oil of oregano drops. Anyone else had luck with this?

> I am also have numbness back of my head to shoulders sometimes.

> Considering a dr. appt. for MRI. Any input appreciated.

>

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I USE OIL OF OREGANO, TOO, JANE. IT DOES SEEM TO HELP SOME. ITS A STRONG

ANTIFUNGAL, AS YOU KNOW.

AS FAR AS NUMBNESS? GET THAT MRI.....NOW!! I'M NUMB FROM WAIST DOWN, SINCE MY

ONSET/ILLNESS IN 1997.....CAUSED BY TOXIC MOLD, & DEMYELINATED SPINAL CORD, AT

WAIST LEVEL.

TAKE CARE, & GOD BLESS US ALL!

VICTORIA

[] oral thrush

Ok - I tried the vinegar rinse for a while and oral thrush came back.

Now I am using oil of oregano drops. Anyone else had luck with this?

I am also have numbness back of my head to shoulders sometimes.

Considering a dr. appt. for MRI. Any input appreciated.

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