re tests

[Guest guest]

which tests are you looking for?

chris

>

>     Hi Sheila & All.

>                         

>                       Have followed the instructions to the letter, all i get

is the page for Nutri that gives prices for supplements. nothing else. if  i am

still missing something, could somebody point out the name of the lab,or indeed

the actual website.  to contact to get my vitamins and minerals tested. Sorry to

keep asking this question but going bananas looking for it.

>                 

>                                                             Luv Connelly

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Vit B12 D3 Ferritin Magnesium, folate copper & Zinc the one's Sheila tells everyone to get, just can't find where to order. Have test kits from Genove for Adrenals and Urine. so just need this info to get

started. Hope you can help ConnellyFrom: Chris

<chrisjtaylor46@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011, 19:55Subject: Re: Re TESTS

which tests are you looking for?

chris

>

> Hi Sheila & All.

>

> Have followed the instructions to the letter, all i get is the page for Nutri that gives prices for supplements. nothing else. if i am still missing something, could somebody point out the name of the lab,or indeed the actual website. to contact to get my vitamins and minerals tested. Sorry to keep asking this question but going bananas looking for it.

>

> Luv Connelly

>

[Guest guest]

Hello

I think Genova do tests for Folate, B12 and ferritin:

http://www.gdx.uk.net/index.php

but I'm not sure about the others - normally, GPs would request these, or

perhaps a private practitioner could request them from a private hospital.

Have you asked Genova to see if they do all of the tests you require?

Do you think your GP would do any of the tests for you? Are you seeing any

other practitioners?

As a last resort there is www.medichecks.com but they are *very* expensive, much

more I believe than if performed at a private hospital.

Sorry I can't be more help; there may be cheaper labs but i don't know of any

you can access without a doctor

chris

>

>                    

>  

>  

> Hi

>               Vit B12 D3 Ferritin Magnesium, folate copper & Zinc

the one's Sheila tells everyone to get, just can't find where to order. Have

test kits from Genove for Adrenals and Urine. so just need this info to get

started. Hope you can help 

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

We don't have anywhere on the forum web site or in the files as

to laboratories you can get these tested apart from Genova Diagnostics where

you can other tests done. You might telephone them and ask them if they test

any of these and what their prices are though.  There are some laboratories

that do test minerals and vitamins but they can be very expensive. I think

posted one once, but that was expensive too. You should, in the first

instance, write to your doctor asking for these tests to be done because if

these specific vitamins and minerals are low in the range, thyroid hormone

cannot be fully utilised at the cellular level until whatever is low has been

supplemented. If your GP tries to tell you there is no association between

these nutrients and low thyroid, then copy out just a few of the references to

the scientific research/clinical studies that have been done to show that there

is

Low

iron/ferritin:

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase

reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties

of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron

saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished

intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate

thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)).

1.

Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron

deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative

and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381.

2.

SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic

thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat.

Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3.

Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium

Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to

Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78.

4.

Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone

Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778.

Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low  copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf

http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract

Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

Luv - Sheila

Hi

Vit B12 D3 Ferritin Magnesium, folate copper & Zinc the one's Sheila tells

everyone to get, just can't find where to order. Have test kits from Genove for

Adrenals and Urine. so just need this info to get started. Hope you can

help

Connelly

[Guest guest]

Sorry Sheila, Brain fog B12 should have been 414, could you comment on this. What No should it be. is this a good in

the range?. Luv Connelly

[Guest guest]

,

It's not low enough for the doctor to treat you unless you're living in Japan,

where they treat at 600.

You really need B12 towards the top of the range.... 7 or 800...

>

> �

> �

> ����� Sorry Sheila,

> ��������������������������

Brain fog B12 should have been 414, could you comment on this. What No should it

be.��

>

��������������������������ï¿\

½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ is this a good in the�range?.

>

��������������������������ï¿\

½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï\

¿½ï¿½ï¿½

>

��������������������������ï¿\

½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Luv Connelly

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Trish, Thank's for the reply, don't know what's going on, this is a short message, as i have grandson Leo at the moment. But hope i can get to the bottom of this or i will end up crazy, then the endoprat will say told you she was mad. Luv Connelly From:

trishrrukread <trishrrukread@...> thyroid treatment Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2012, 7:31 Subject: Re: Re tests

hi sarah

i agree with chris that as a process of elimination it would be worth getting a reverse t3 test done however logic wold(i am sorry to say i've got no references to post relating to this de-sensitising).

best wishes.

trish

ps i hope you are supplementing sublingual b12?

>

> Hi

> I have high Cortisol, low b12, Shed any light.

> Luv   Connelly

Â

>

> maybe it's some kind of thyroid resistance ?

>

> this site may help:

>

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/