Blood tests

[Guest guest]

Susie,

CRP is C-reactive protein, which is an indicator of inflammation. The SED

rate is also a measurement of inflammation, but

isn't as accurate of what is going on as the CRP.

Here are some links to explain it.

ArthritisCentral lab tests

Basic Lab tests in rheumatic diseases

Special Tests in Rheumatology from University of Florida

Interpretation of Lab Test Ed Uthman MD American Board of Pathology

Common Laboratory Tests from the AMA

How to review your blood test results

Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate

Lab and diagnostic tests from University of Nottingham Medical

School

Lab Tests in Arthritis University of Washington

Laboratory Testing in the Rheumatic Diseases

[ ] Blood tests

Could anyone tell me what this means?

CRP is 14.3

and the SEDRATE is 32

What are those test for? What do they mean or point to?

Susie

[Guest guest]

I couldn't find anything with these. I actually don't know what I am

looking for. I just wanted to know what the CRP measures, or means you

may have... and what the

CRP is 14.3 means, and what the normal range is.What kind of

" inflammation " ...what is mean by inflamation? Of what is the doctor

thinking then?

And what the SEDRATE is 32 means and what sedrate measures. Like what

diease or what???

For goodness sakes, they called today and just said, " we are calling you

in Methotrex (sp?) and Asulfadine (sp???)... we really need to get you

on this...what drug store do you use? "

Now here is a doctor who has offered no meds for helping me,

explinations or pain control... now all of sudden THEY CALL with this? I

am just ready to hang this ..... up.

They advoided all my questions.

I am mind boggled, and when I tried to type in the stuff you wrote in

the last email, it just brought me places that I didn't know what to

look for. I am sorry. I just couldn't find anything.

Susie

a wrote: Susie,CRP is C-reactive protein, which is an indicator of

inflammation. The SEDrate is also a measurement of inflammation, but

isn't as accurate of what is going on as the CRP.

> Here are some links to explain it.

> ArthritisCentral lab tests

> Basic Lab tests in rheumatic diseases

> Special Tests in Rheumatology from University of Florida

> Interpretation of Lab Test Ed Uthman MD American Board of

> Pathology

> Common Laboratory Tests from the AMA

> How to review your blood test results

> Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate

> Lab and diagnostic tests from University of Nottingham Medical

> School

> Lab Tests in Arthritis University of Washington

> Laboratory Testing in the Rheumatic Diseases

>

> [ ] Blood tests

> Could anyone tell me what this means?

> CRP is 14.3

> and the SEDRATE is 32

> What are those test for? What do they mean or point to?

> Susie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Susie,

I'm sorry, the links didn't paste for some reason. I'm working with a very

antiquated laptop

and don't have access to any of my files. I'm going nuts waiting for my

part to come in.

Anyway, the sed rate determines if you have inflammation. The sed rate

measures the amount

of inflammation present. 0 means NO inflammation, but 0-20 is considered

normal.

The higher the sed rate, the greater the amount of inflammation. During a

flare, most of us

report sed rates in the 60-80 range. When we find the right medication that

we respond to,

the sed rate will drop. Doctors will order sed rates and crp's to monitor

the inflammation levels.

The CRP is also a measurement of inflammation but CRP provides a more

immediate picture

of the level of inflammation than does the ESR because the levels of CRP

rise faster and also

drop faster. CRP says what is going on NOW. Sed rate can take much longer

to rise and drop

so if you're flaring, the sed rate may not show it until days later, but the

CRP would elevate

right away. CRP rises before the sedimentation rate. C-reactive protein

appears 6 to 24 hours

after onset of inflammation Hope I'm explaining this, I'm tired brain

fogged tonight.

Your CRP is considered markedly elevated, and that is why they want to start

you on DMARDS

as soon as possible, but they really should have explained this to you. I

think you should make an

appointment and talk to your doctor. If you decide to go on mtx, please

make sure you get a chest

x-ray first. In rare cases mtx can affect the lungs, so they usually take

a baseline chest x-ray to have

something to compare to if you should have problems. Hopefully since your

labs indicate a high level

of inflammation, you shouldn't have any problems getting medication.

- If you have that great link to that website that explains this, please

post it if you can. I have

no bookmarks and this computer is slow as molasses running uphill in

January, so it's hard for me

to research anything.

a

[ ] Blood tests

> Could anyone tell me what this means?

> CRP is 14.3

> and the SEDRATE is 32

> What are those test for? What do they mean or point to?

> Susie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Susie,

Did this doctor give you a firm diagnosis yet?

CRP and sed rate are measures of inflammation. Unfortunately, they are not

specific to any one disease. The ranges for normal depend on the lab who

processed your specimen. Please ask for a copy of your lab results.

Usually, the ranges will be listed with your particular results.

When doctors investigate suspected inflammatory arthritis, they often look

for what they call signs of an " acute phase response " or evidence of " acute

phase reactants. " Basically, they are looking for lab results that indicate

an inflammatory process is at work. CRP and sed rate are two common tests

used in their attempt to arrive at a diagnosis.

Acute Phase Response:

http://www.rcpa.edu.au/pathman/acute_ph.htm

ESR:

http://www.uwcme.org/courses/rheumatology/rheumlab/esr.html

http://www.aafp.org/afp/991001ap/1443.html

CRP:

http://www.uwcme.org/courses/rheumatology/rheumlab/crp.html

Re: [ ] Blood tests

> I couldn't find anything with these. I actually don't know what I am

> looking for. I just wanted to know what the CRP measures, or means you

> may have... and what the

> CRP is 14.3 means, and what the normal range is.What kind of

> " inflammation " ...what is mean by inflamation? Of what is the doctor

> thinking then?

> And what the SEDRATE is 32 means and what sedrate measures. Like what

> diease or what???

> For goodness sakes, they called today and just said, " we are calling you

> in Methotrex (sp?) and Asulfadine (sp???)... we really need to get you

> on this...what drug store do you use? "

> Now here is a doctor who has offered no meds for helping me,

> explinations or pain control... now all of sudden THEY CALL with this? I

> am just ready to hang this ..... up.

> They advoided all my questions.

> I am mind boggled, and when I tried to type in the stuff you wrote in

> the last email, it just brought me places that I didn't know what to

> look for. I am sorry. I just couldn't find anything.

> Susie

>

> a wrote: Susie,CRP is C-reactive protein, which is an indicator of

> inflammation. The SEDrate is also a measurement of inflammation, but

> isn't as accurate of what is going on as the CRP.

[Guest guest]

Nope. And I asked. They said, " well, HE just says that it is imperative

that you get on the methotrexate and a sulfa drug... " I think it was

something like sulfazine or dine. Not sure.

, if they don't give me some kind of diagnosis or indication on WHAT

is inflamed or making the test come out bad, then I sure as heck ain't

gonna take medicine for " whatever " . That would be total insult on any

intelligence I have... I have LEFT, that is!

I am not a totally " Dr. submissive " type person. And this doctor has not

made me feel he is " all that and more " , either.

Do you think I am wrong? I mean, he has all the other diagnoses... and

he sees the state of my health for over a year. I am getting sicker and

sicker. And still he hasn't addressed any Pain issues and any remedies

or methods of treatment... other than Antidepressants... " to help you

sleep " . , I say again... this ol gal can go to bed, and sleep like

a STONE for 5 to 8 hours every night!

And now all of sudden he tells his NURSE to call me ...and that he wants

to call me this med into my drug store??? And did not even have decency

to sit down with me at another appointment, to DISCUSS side effects, or

what kind of drug it was????

I told her, " Isn't that a type of cancer drug? " She got quiet and said

nothing. Then said, " well, it works with what is wrong with you. " So I

asked again what was wrong. She said the " blood tests " all came back

bad. hahahahaha!

I then said, " Well, do you think I should start taking Folic Acid? "

....quiet again. She finally said, " Well some people say you should, it

is up to you. "

Would YOU trust this man with a vile or pill of METHOTREXATE???

Susie

P.S. ... thanks for these links. Before long, I guess we ALL will

know as much...or more, than the doctors!

wrote:

> Susie,

>

> Did this doctor give you a firm diagnosis yet?

[Guest guest]

Susie,

I wouldn't begin either drug without going to see the doctor and asking him

what all of your diagnoses are, which one he is trying to treat, and how his

drug choices will impact your other conditions. Sounds like he has decided

you have RA, but he shouldn't do that based on CRP and ESR alone. He would

have to give you some much better reasons than that. I would ask him on

what, if he has given you an RA diagnosis, he has based your diagnosis.

From you earlier stories though and since he just asked his staff to phone

you like this out of the blue, I'm not sure I would go back to him at all. I

believe, as hard a task as it may seem, that you need to find someone else

for a consultation. Bring the latest labs and the rest of your medical

record with you and let another physician examine you, review your record,

and offer advice.

Sorry!

Re: [ ] Blood tests

> Nope. And I asked. They said, " well, HE just says that it is imperative

> that you get on the methotrexate and a sulfa drug... " I think it was

> something like sulfazine or dine. Not sure.

> , if they don't give me some kind of diagnosis or indication on WHAT

> is inflamed or making the test come out bad, then I sure as heck ain't

> gonna take medicine for " whatever " . That would be total insult on any

> intelligence I have... I have LEFT, that is!

> I am not a totally " Dr. submissive " type person. And this doctor has not

> made me feel he is " all that and more " , either.

> Do you think I am wrong? I mean, he has all the other diagnoses... and

> he sees the state of my health for over a year. I am getting sicker and

> sicker. And still he hasn't addressed any Pain issues and any remedies

> or methods of treatment... other than Antidepressants... " to help you

> sleep " . , I say again... this ol gal can go to bed, and sleep like

> a STONE for 5 to 8 hours every night!

> And now all of sudden he tells his NURSE to call me ...and that he wants

> to call me this med into my drug store??? And did not even have decency

> to sit down with me at another appointment, to DISCUSS side effects, or

> what kind of drug it was????

> I told her, " Isn't that a type of cancer drug? " She got quiet and said

> nothing. Then said, " well, it works with what is wrong with you. " So I

> asked again what was wrong. She said the " blood tests " all came back

> bad. hahahahaha!

> I then said, " Well, do you think I should start taking Folic Acid? "

> ...quiet again. She finally said, " Well some people say you should, it

> is up to you. "

> Would YOU trust this man with a vile or pill of METHOTREXATE???

> Susie

> P.S. ... thanks for these links. Before long, I guess we ALL will

> know as much...or more, than the doctors!

[Guest guest]

Hey, Susie! It all depends on your clinical picture, but these links discuss the

standard approach to

laboratory testing related to suspected rheumatic disease:

http://www.cma.ca/cmaj/vol-162/issue-8/1157.htm

http://www.rheumatology.org/publications/primarycare/number6/hrh0034698.html

http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/1998/02_98/ward.htm

[ ] BLOOD TESTS

> Does anyone know, and can list ALL the BLOOD TESTS that a competent RA

> doctor should perform?

> Susie

[Guest guest]

What a great question, anxiously waiting for the answer!

[ ] BLOOD TESTS

> Does anyone know, and can list ALL the BLOOD TESTS that a competent RA

> doctor should perform?

> Susie

>

[Guest guest]

answered the question yesterday. Here's a repeat for

anyone that missed it.

These links are very informative and should answer any

questions, but if not please

don't hesitate to ask.

a

Re: [ ] BLOOD TESTS

What a great question, anxiously waiting for the answer!

[ ] BLOOD TESTS

> Does anyone know, and can list ALL the BLOOD TESTS that

a competent RA

> doctor should perform?

> Susie

>

[Guest guest]

any ideas what lymphocytes are? what about neutrophils? is there a difference

between absolute and segmented? basophils, monocytes? just looking over

records i have picked up. kathy in il

[Guest guest]

My husband used to sit in the chair and then our son would sit on top of him.

My husband would wrap arms around him, I would do his legs and with two

nurses we could get it done. We don't bring him into the room until they are

ready with all their needles and vials. The anxiety alone was tough for him.

Our

son is 11 and we still take two nurses.

[Guest guest]

I've never used it but my friend swears by Emla for her child with DS. Kathy

-NNY

[Guest guest]

,

Try candy or his favorite toy..

Moustafa

Re: blood tests

Can anyone give me any advice on how they manage their child whilst getting

a blood test done? I have an 11 yr old son, severely autistic - doesn't sit

still for one second and I am really struggling with how to go about this.

Many thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

I have an 11 y.o. son too, and I know exactly where you're coming from with

this. I would definitely get a prescription for the Emla (though it'll probably

take a few times for him to believe that it won't hurt this way). I also give

our bloodwork order to a friend who's a nurse. She goes to the hospital or lab,

gets whatever tubes are needed for that order, then comes to the house and draws

it right here. We still have quite the struggle, but between my husband, me and

the sofa, we can hold him still enough for the draw.

After the draw, she gives me the labeled tubes which she's signed off on and the

bloodwork order, and I just drive to our local lab and drop it off.

(Having them look the other way and count is helpful too. And make sure there's

a nice big reward at the end!).

Good luck!

Heidi

Re: blood tests

Can anyone give me any advice on how they manage their child whilst getting

a blood test done? I have an 11 yr old son, severely autistic - doesn't sit

still for one second and I am really struggling with how to go about this.

Many thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

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[Guest guest]

Can anyone give me any advice on how they manage their child whilst getting

a blood test done? I have an 11 yr old son, severely autistic - doesn't sit

still for one second and I am really struggling with how to go about this.

Many thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

When we first started, it took 4 to 5 people to secure my son. He was about

4.5yrs old - I am 6'4 " 235lbs and needed lots of help holding him still.

Now, he is 7 and sits in my lap singing ABC's and watches while the

" vampire " does his thing. Now we hold him just to prevent accidental arm

movements, but he willingly extends his arm for the process. (We have had

EXCELLENT experience with Dr G's vampires)

One thing we do is briskly rub the inside of both arms seconds prior to

sterilizing the site and needle insertion. Something about the stimulation

that mutes any sensation he feels. It is as effective as EMLA cream, which

we used to use for his Kutapressin shots. What used to be a horrific

experience has progressed to a little boy who is probably better than most

7 yr olds at having blood drawn. He even lets the band aid stay on, which

used to send him through the roof.

Once he understood the concept of bribery, ummm...I mean cause and effect,

we told him if he cooperates we would get a treat. (Whatever trips his

trigger at the moment - Game Boy Advance is a current pleasure)

Good Luck - YMMV.

At 05:38 AM 06/20/2003, you wrote:

>Re: Re: blood tests

[Guest guest]

I have to agree, the lab techs at Dr. Gs are EXCELLENT! We even got a

guy who was in training once and he did a great job. First shot every time.

Becky

Re: blood tests

> When we first started, it took 4 to 5 people to secure my son. He was

about

> 4.5yrs old - I am 6'4 " 235lbs and needed lots of help holding him still.

>

> Now, he is 7 and sits in my lap singing ABC's and watches while the

> " vampire " does his thing. Now we hold him just to prevent accidental arm

> movements, but he willingly extends his arm for the process. (We have had

> EXCELLENT experience with Dr G's vampires)

>

> One thing we do is briskly rub the inside of both arms seconds prior to

> sterilizing the site and needle insertion. Something about the stimulation

> that mutes any sensation he feels. It is as effective as EMLA cream, which

> we used to use for his Kutapressin shots. What used to be a horrific

> experience has progressed to a little boy who is probably better than most

> 7 yr olds at having blood drawn. He even lets the band aid stay on, which

> used to send him through the roof.

>

> Once he understood the concept of bribery, ummm...I mean cause and effect,

> we told him if he cooperates we would get a treat. (Whatever trips his

> trigger at the moment - Game Boy Advance is a current pleasure)

>

> Good Luck - YMMV.

>

> At 05:38 AM 06/20/2003, you wrote:

> >Re: Re: blood tests

>

>

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And a problem i have,

My doctor wants blood test from me once in two months. But i want to make it

every week or mostly in about 15 days, i cant wait. I wanna see that everything

is ok. If i see that (for example) my WBC is getting higher than it was at the

previous test, it makes me panic and a few days later i make a new test to see

if it is still getting higher or not.

Do you think i have a psychological problem? How often should a patient who is

in remission make blood counts test?

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[Guest guest]

,

Dr Camp in Mill Valley Califonia has some experience in treating toxic

mold exposure.

His website is http://morgancamp.com/

From: jennyjen93103 <jmv9@...>

Subject: [] Blood Tests

Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 3:24 PM

Hello,

I am wondering if anyone has used a company called Biosign Labs for mold blood

tests and how their experience was? I feel tired alot and have nausea come and

go as well as debilitating sinus headaches once they start. If anyone has any

recommendations for a doctor in California that would be great. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

BioSign Labs for 18 different strands of mold including:

Alternaria

Aspergillius - 3 types

Aureobasidium

Candida albicans

Cladosporium

Stemphylium botryosum

Stachybotrys

Penicillium notatum

Curvularia lunata

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From: barb1283 <barb1283@...>

Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 2:28:13 PM

Subject: [] Re: Blood Tests

Liz, they detect abnormalities of what kind?

--- In , Del Sol <liz2000go@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Got test result from BioSign Labs today. Results look accurate. They detected

Abnormalities in blood levels.

>

>