Re: Patti Dental Problems

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

????? I am 6 3/4 years out and I have still never had a cavity!? Maybe it's just

luck...I don't know.? I never had a cavity before my MGB and I'm still cavity

free!!

Marie Pittman

3/2001

Patti Dental Problems

Hi Patti

I too have dental problems I am 3 years out and last time I went to the dentist

I had six cavities my gums are receeding and the enamal on my teeth is coming

off and no one can tell me whats happing I am debating on whether or not to get

veeners put on but they cost about 20 grand let me know if you get any news from

your dentist.

Thanks Tricia

Joyce <oleburpee@...> wrote:

I am not sure this will help, but I work at a CPA Firm that does

accounting for Dentists. I have asked some of the dentists that come

to our office on this. They stated it could be the sugar in the

Gatorade that is causing the issues. They suggest that if you are

drinking Gatorade to rinse your mouth often to get the sugar off your

teeth. Gatorade has as much or more sugar than some soda. Not sure if

this will help, but it is the answer I got when I inquired about a

cause.

Joyce

5/18/07 Bay City, MI

251/242/170/? and healthy

pre-op/surgery/now/goal

41 inches lost

>

> It has been quite a long time since I posted but I have been having

> huge problems with my teeth. My dentist and I have discussed and

tried

> to figure out the source of all my tooth decay issues. I have had

to

> have 6 root canals this year and have had to replace 7 crowns as

the

> teeth all decayed under the crowns that were already in place? One

> tooth decayed so badly under the crown it broke off at the gumline,

> because it was under the crown we did not see the decay, and the

crown

> was only put in a little over 2 years ago! I have always taken

> excellent care of my teeth and have undergone all of these problems

> just this past year. My MGB was in 2003, so just curious if anyone

else

> has had any problems of this type?

>

> Thanks for any help or input.

>

> Pattie in Redondo

>

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[Guest guest]

It seems like we all are making the connection that weight loss surgery

affects the teeth but the dentists don't. How do we go to a dentist and not

" waste " our money if the dentist isn't going to fix our teeth the proper way?

How do we educate the dentist?

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[Guest guest]

I am 56 years old, 3.5 years out with a loss of 140 lbs. I am basically in

great health and

have no problems except for secondary hyperparathyroidism. What that means is

that

because my vit D is so poorly absorbed after the bypass my body compensates by

increasing the parahtyroid hormone to help with blood calcium levels. I am

improving

dramatically since getting weekly injections of vit D (50,000iu) for the past 6

months. My

guess is that I will need this for life. This fall I went to my dentist. I am

the wife of a

retired dentist and my dental care has always been top notch. Before I went I

had my

hsband take a look and he about blew a gasket. Decay was rampant, and my enamal

was

eroding and gums were receding. He gave me an indepth lesson on brushing and

applying topical fluoride at least once daily. He was concerned I would have

decay under

my crowns and would need extensivework. I then went to the other dentist who

was also

shocked at the rapid decline of my teeth and the active decay process going on.

He said

this wasn't a brushing problem, you have some sort of chemical imbalance going

on

(remember my vit D,calcium stuff above). Her took care of the most immediate

severe

decay where I had chipped a tooth and said he did not want to do anymore until I

got the

decay process under control. His suggestion was to keep brushing and use ACT

Restore

fluoride mouth wash faithfully. He suggested that rather than the gelcam

fluoride paste

because he said recent research had shown it was absorbed deep into the teeth

and would

help remineralize from the inside out rahter than just the outside layer with

the fluoride

paste. Fluoride takes the place of the calcium in the tooth structure and is

basically not

eroded nearly as raidly in an acid environment (decay) and basically makes the

teeth

stronger. I went back last Friday and he was pleased as punch since all the

decay process

had stopped and the teeth were remineralizing. He also encouraged me to tell

all of you

on this website so that you can prevent the decay from starting and also to keep

a close

watch. Anyway... I mentioned the gatorade concern I had read here on this

site. Of

course sugar is a bad thing for us but the problem can be prevented by brushing.

My

problem was not the result of gatorade (I only use it occasionally) but much

more likely

the after effect of imbalance due to malabsorption. I did not have these

problems the first

3 years but this all occurred in the past 9 months or so. That is the same time

frame as

my vit D and PTH issues but they were not checked prior to that so I can not say

if there

was a causal link. Take care, brush your teeth, use ACT fluoride mouth wash,

and get

regular check ups. Enjoy your gift offered by the MGB surgery as much s I am!

Margaret

Dr. R and Dr P

July, 2004

289/245

[Guest guest]

I guess I was lucky as my diabetic doctor checked my Vit D levels

about 6 months after my bypass and put me on 50,000 units. At first

it was 3 times a week and is now dropped to once a week. Its a

problem with diabetics, and he checked it because of that, not

because of the bypass surgery. There was a big study and lots of

writings in medical journals that year (2004) I have always had bad

teeth, lots of decay and actually mine are better now than before the

by pass surgery. My teeth are very soft and decay easily. When my

braces were taken off, I had a cavity in every tooth where the wire

touched.

Anne H.

>

> I am 56 years old, 3.5 years out with a loss of 140 lbs. I am

basically in great health and

> have no problems except for secondary hyperparathyroidism. What

that means is that

> because my vit D is so poorly absorbed after the bypass my body

compensates by

> increasing the parahtyroid hormone to help with blood calcium

levels. I am improving

> dramatically since getting weekly injections of vit D (50,000iu)

for the past 6 months. My

> guess is that I will need this for life. This fall I went to my

dentist. I am the wife of a

> retired dentist and my dental care has always been top notch.

Before I went I had my

> hsband take a look and he about blew a gasket. Decay was rampant,

and my enamal was

> eroding and gums were receding. He gave me an indepth lesson on

brushing and

> applying topical fluoride at least once daily. He was concerned I

would have decay under

> my crowns and would need extensivework. I then went to the other

dentist who was also

> shocked at the rapid decline of my teeth and the active decay

process going on. He said

> this wasn't a brushing problem, you have some sort of chemical

imbalance going on

> (remember my vit D,calcium stuff above). Her took care of the most

immediate severe

> decay where I had chipped a tooth and said he did not want to do

anymore until I got the

> decay process under control. His suggestion was to keep brushing

and use ACT Restore

> fluoride mouth wash faithfully. He suggested that rather than the

gelcam fluoride paste

> because he said recent research had shown it was absorbed deep into

the teeth and would

> help remineralize from the inside out rahter than just the outside

layer with the fluoride

> paste. Fluoride takes the place of the calcium in the tooth

structure and is basically not

> eroded nearly as raidly in an acid environment (decay) and

basically makes the teeth

> stronger. I went back last Friday and he was pleased as punch

since all the decay process

> had stopped and the teeth were remineralizing. He also encouraged

me to tell all of you

> on this website so that you can prevent the decay from starting and

also to keep a close

> watch. Anyway... I mentioned the gatorade concern I had read here

on this site. Of

> course sugar is a bad thing for us but the problem can be prevented

by brushing. My

> problem was not the result of gatorade (I only use it occasionally)

but much more likely

> the after effect of imbalance due to malabsorption. I did not have

these problems the first

> 3 years but this all occurred in the past 9 months or so. That is

the same time frame as

> my vit D and PTH issues but they were not checked prior to that so

I can not say if there

> was a causal link. Take care, brush your teeth, use ACT fluoride

mouth wash, and get

> regular check ups. Enjoy your gift offered by the MGB surgery as

much s I am!

> Margaret

> Dr. R and Dr P

> July, 2004

> 289/245

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for the response! I along with the advice of my

dentist have also started an agressive prevention routine as well.

She was as shocked as I was of the rapid decay, and I was her " first "

gastric bypass patient. She recrowned 5 of my teeth and has decided

to redo 6 more! She also prescribed a fluoride gel, a fluoride paste

and told me rinse with ACT mouthwash. So, I am hoping this will

prevent future problems with the malabsorbtion of what I am missing?

But,it does make me feel better to know it is not due to poor dental

hygeine or lack of care. I will continue with this preventive program

and hope for the best!

Thanks again!

>

> I am 56 years old, 3.5 years out with a loss of 140 lbs. I am

basically in great health and

> have no problems except for secondary hyperparathyroidism. What

that means is that

> because my vit D is so poorly absorbed after the bypass my body

compensates by

> increasing the parahtyroid hormone to help with blood calcium

levels. I am improving

> dramatically since getting weekly injections of vit D (50,000iu)

for the past 6 months. My

> guess is that I will need this for life. This fall I went to my

dentist. I am the wife of a

> retired dentist and my dental care has always been top notch.

Before I went I had my

> hsband take a look and he about blew a gasket. Decay was rampant,

and my enamal was

> eroding and gums were receding. He gave me an indepth lesson on

brushing and

> applying topical fluoride at least once daily. He was concerned I

would have decay under

> my crowns and would need extensivework. I then went to the other

dentist who was also

> shocked at the rapid decline of my teeth and the active decay

process going on. He said

> this wasn't a brushing problem, you have some sort of chemical

imbalance going on

> (remember my vit D,calcium stuff above). Her took care of the most

immediate severe

> decay where I had chipped a tooth and said he did not want to do

anymore until I got the

> decay process under control. His suggestion was to keep brushing

and use ACT Restore

> fluoride mouth wash faithfully. He suggested that rather than the

gelcam fluoride paste

> because he said recent research had shown it was absorbed deep into

the teeth and would

> help remineralize from the inside out rahter than just the outside

layer with the fluoride

> paste. Fluoride takes the place of the calcium in the tooth

structure and is basically not

> eroded nearly as raidly in an acid environment (decay) and

basically makes the teeth

> stronger. I went back last Friday and he was pleased as punch

since all the decay process

> had stopped and the teeth were remineralizing. He also encouraged

me to tell all of you

> on this website so that you can prevent the decay from starting and

also to keep a close

> watch. Anyway... I mentioned the gatorade concern I had read here

on this site. Of

> course sugar is a bad thing for us but the problem can be prevented

by brushing. My

> problem was not the result of gatorade (I only use it occasionally)

but much more likely

> the after effect of imbalance due to malabsorption. I did not have

these problems the first

> 3 years but this all occurred in the past 9 months or so. That is

the same time frame as

> my vit D and PTH issues but they were not checked prior to that so

I can not say if there

> was a causal link. Take care, brush your teeth, use ACT fluoride

mouth wash, and get

> regular check ups. Enjoy your gift offered by the MGB surgery as

much s I am!

> Margaret

> Dr. R and Dr P

> July, 2004

> 289/245

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I am 56 years old, 3.5 years out with a loss of 140 lbs. I am

basically in great health and

> have no problems except for secondary hyperparathyroidism. What

that means is that

> because my vit D is so poorly absorbed after the bypass my body

compensates by

> increasing the parahtyroid hormone to help with blood calcium

levels. I am improving

> dramatically since getting weekly injections of vit D (50,000iu)

for the past 6 months. My

> guess is that I will need this for life.

Hi Margaret,

I would like to know more about your hyperparathyroidism and what

symptoms you experienced. I have been having severe joint pain that

travels from joint to joint for the past week. My PCP has ordered

an enormous amount of blood work and we are waiting on the results.

My thyroid and vitamin D levels are among the list of labs that she

ran.

Thanks,

W.

3/8/2006 Dr. P Houston

296/285/170

High/DOS/Now

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I did not have any symptoms that I can identify when I had the secondary

hyperparathryroidism. I do wonder if my problems with the unusual dental decay

was

related. I would not have know things were out of balance without the blood

work. I can say

though for a fact that overall I feel more energy and just plain better since I

have started

getting the D and than the parathyroid hormone (PTH) under control. I am still

not at normal

levels (started my shots of 50000 iu's of Vit D in august and am continuing. My

PTH levles

are still too high and vit D is still too low but improved dramatically. Dr.

thinks I will have to

continue the vit D for life since I obviously no longer absorb it. I had no

joint pain but vit D

and parathyroid have lots of different effects. Good luck running things down.

Be persistent.

Margaret

7/12/2004

Chino

Dr P and Dr R

286/148

[Guest guest]

I dont know where you live, but have yourself checked for LYmes

disease.

Anne Hansen

> >

> > I am 56 years old, 3.5 years out with a loss of 140 lbs. I am

> basically in great health and

> > have no problems except for secondary hyperparathyroidism. What

> that means is that

> > because my vit D is so poorly absorbed after the bypass my body

> compensates by

> > increasing the parahtyroid hormone to help with blood calcium

> levels. I am improving

> > dramatically since getting weekly injections of vit D (50,000iu)

> for the past 6 months. My

> > guess is that I will need this for life.

>

> Hi Margaret,

>

> I would like to know more about your hyperparathyroidism and what

> symptoms you experienced. I have been having severe joint pain that

> travels from joint to joint for the past week. My PCP has ordered

> an enormous amount of blood work and we are waiting on the

results.

> My thyroid and vitamin D levels are among the list of labs that she

> ran.

>

> Thanks,

> W.

> 3/8/2006 Dr. P Houston

> 296/285/170

> High/DOS/Now

>