shingles

November 18, 2009

Can Iodine completely remove viruses like shingles from someone's system? What would happen if they were exposed again? Would they have immunity?~WOn Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM, cheryl_b_1 <mossyforrest@...> wrote:

My thought would be that the Iodine may have taken the virus out of dormancy, this may have to happen in order to rid the body of the dormant/latent virus.

When virus are dormant they still do harm. There just arent any or many symptoms outwardly. Some virus are very adept at hiding themselves. And when faced with threat, such as iodine would pose, they might go into hyper drive trying to save themselves, hyper immune response (similar to what vaccines do), which might cause the auto immune reaction.

Personally, i would cover the lesions with iodine and increase, not decrease, my iodine and get rid of the virus. It is harder to do when its painful tho, so he has to do what he can tolerate.

I'm not sure what VCO is. But if not wanting to try iodine, Tea Tree Oil applied to the lesions might help, it is especially good for viral and bacterial infestations on the skin. Taking OLE - olive leaf extract might be good, too.

Cheryl

November 18, 2009

Not that I am aware of.

Steph

Re: Re: shingles

Can Iodine completely remove viruses like shingles from someone's system? What would happen if they were exposed again? Would they have immunity?~W

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM, cheryl_b_1 <mossyforrestcenturytel (DOT) net> wrote:

My thought would be that the Iodine may have taken the virus out of dormancy, this may have to happen in order to rid the body of the dormant/latent virus. When virus are dormant they still do harm. There just arent any or many symptoms outwardly. Some virus are very adept at hiding themselves. And when faced with threat, such as iodine would pose, they might go into hyper drive trying to save themselves, hyper immune response (similar to what vaccines do), which might cause the auto immune reaction.Personally, i would cover the lesions with iodine and increase, not decrease, my iodine and get rid of the virus. It is harder to do when its painful tho, so he has to do what he can tolerate.I'm not sure what VCO is. But if not wanting to try iodine, Tea Tree Oil applied to the lesions might help, it is especially good for viral and bacterial infestations on the skin. Taking OLE - olive leaf extract might be good, too.Cheryl

November 18, 2009

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and info. I went to my Dr. today and he

confirmed that I do have Shingles. He is doing a " frequency wave " treatment on

me for three days, B shots and gave me a list of supplements to take, some I am

already on for the iodine protocol.

I also bought the homeopathic med for shingles.

I guess I'm a bit perplexed as to why I ended up with this. I would think since

the iodine (taking for two months) is anti-bacterial and anti-viral, and I'm

taking Low dose naltrexone (10 months) which bolsters the immune system, why did

I have this outbreak? I guess I'm frustrated because my fibro pain is alot

better as of the last two weeks and now I have this to contend with for at least

three weeks. Just venting I guess.

Tina

> >

> > From: " Tina_Dunckel " <tina_dunckel@ ...>

> > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:48:29

> > <iodinegroups (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Detox symptom or something else?

> >

> > I am on 100mg of Iodoral with all the supporting supplements

and celtic salt. Have been at 100mg for about one month with very minor detox

symptoms. About three days ago I got a rash under my left breast and now it

looks to be spreading around to my back. It is red, raised with a few blisters.

Does this sound like a detox symptom. I'm wondering if I might have shingles.

Would the iodine be causing the shingles since we know it can be forcing toxins

out of our bodies. Since the shingles is a virus, does iodine detox us from

viruses? I am also on LDN 4.5mg for fibromyalgia since february.

> >

> > Any insite or help on what to do would be appreciated. I

lowered the iodine to 50mg this morning. Am also doing salt loading today.I'm

not in alot of pain at this point but a bit uncomfortable since the rash is in

an area that gets irritation.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Tina

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

November 18, 2009

Cheryl,

You wrote:

>Personally, i would cover the lesions with iodine and increase, not decrease,

my iodine and get rid of the virus. It is harder to do when its painful tho, so

he has to do what he can tolerate.

I agree that it must be what he can tolerate. From what I saw on shingles.com

today, I think it's important that it not flare up any worse than it is now - it

can cause vision damage & his lesions are very near the eye right now, & he

thinks the lump is descending closer to the eye each day. That is why I

recommended backing off on the iodine. I do not mean that he should stop it,

but just get to a detox level that is not dangerous.

>I'm not sure what VCO is. But if not wanting to try iodine, Tea Tree Oil

applied to the lesions might help, it is especially good for viral and bacterial

infestations on the skin. Taking OLE - olive leaf extract might be good, too.

Sorry for the abbreviation - VCO is virgin coconut oil. I have OLE and Lemon

Balm (also good for any herpes family viruses) on order, but just found out it's

on back order. My friend cannot afford supplements, he lives in a room in a

YMCA after being homeless for 2 years & is on food stamps. I got him started on

Iodoral & will share any thing I have that will help alleviate the shingles he

has, but I'm struggling to pay for my own supplements so we'll just have to see

how it goes.

thank you for your kind and caring reply.

Best,

Connie

November 18, 2009

Connie,

As a suggestion, I was able to clear a very stubborn systemic virus from my system by using the coconut ( AVO ) ( lauric acid ) oil along with borage oil ( GLA ) to break into the 'sac' the virus harbors in. The two acids combined is reported to do the job.

Medical Dr. had no remedy for me... no one expected me to live; I cleared it up in just a few days.

I have since regained my health. And rarely get sick.........

Bonnie

Re: shingles

Cheryl,You wrote:>Personally, i would cover the lesions with iodine and increase, not decrease, my iodine and get rid of the virus. It is harder to do when its painful tho, so he has to do what he can tolerate.I agree that it must be what he can tolerate. From what I saw on shingles.com today, I think it's important that it not flare up any worse than it is now - it can cause vision damage & his lesions are very near the eye right now, & he thinks the lump is descending closer to the eye each day. That is why I recommended backing off on the iodine. I do not mean that he should stop it, but just get to a detox level that is not dangerous.>I'm not sure what VCO is. But if not wanting to try iodine, Tea Tree Oil applied to the lesions might help, it is especially good for viral and bacterial infestations on the skin. Taking OLE - olive leaf extract might be good, too.Sorry for the abbreviation - VCO is virgin coconut oil. I have OLE and Lemon Balm (also good for any herpes family viruses) on order, but just found out it's on back order. My friend cannot afford supplements, he lives in a room in a YMCA after being homeless for 2 years & is on food stamps. I got him started on Iodoral & will share any thing I have that will help alleviate the shingles he has, but I'm struggling to pay for my own supplements so we'll just have to see how it goes.thank you for your kind and caring reply.Best,Connie

November 18, 2009

Herpes virus is a hard one to kick. I think you should try a variety of protocols. Simultaneously is probably fine. It will certainly weaken it. It takes a long to kill it or render it ineffective. It does try to com back and grow, so you have to be as vigilant as it is.

I am sure they iodine protocol, virgin coconut oil, the food grade H2O2 and/or ozone therapy as well as homeopathic remedies can all be effective and should all be tried together or separately. Try checking out the website called abchomeopathy.com

Jag

From: cheryl_b_1 <mossyforrest@...>Subject: Re: shinglesiodine Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:28 PM

There are several small studies that show a complete inactivation of virus by using iodine.One was a 2008 Harvard HIV study, with the test subjects having a 89% inactivation of the HIV virus. Another was a genital herpes study that showed complete remission of viral lesions by applying iodine several times daily. In both of those i was unable to find any follow up studies by the same authors, even tho they said further study is warranted.There are even more in vitro studies showing Iodine to kill virus. And several mouse studies as well.And there are quite a few fish studies using iodine to remove virus from fish. My thought is that since people are able to remove virus's thru antivirals and LDN and other protocols, and since Iodine is proven to be a viral inhibitor it would make sense that if there was enough Iodine then virus would be inactivated and removed from the body. So yes, I do think

Iodine will remove virus's from anyones systems once they are sufficient and remain that way. Once a person has a virus they produce antibodies and they dont get it again. At least thats what they keep telling us... But There sure are alot of autistic kids (and there may be others in other populations and i dont know it) with both latent virus and antibodies to the virus so that theory is kinda flaky to me... IF shingles is a virus and goes dormant and then flares why does it not act like other virus and be controlled by antibodies? Would love an answer to that one!Cheryl >> Can Iodine completely remove viruses like shingles from someone's system?> What would happen if they were

exposed again? Would they have immunity?> > ~W>

November 18, 2009

Is he using Rife Frequencies? You have to do a sweep, because virii tend to mutate every so slightly to get out of the "kill zone" of the frequency. Let us know how it works for you.

Jag

From: Tina_Dunckel <tina_dunckel@...>Subject: Re: shinglesiodine Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 5:47 PM

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and info. I went to my Dr. today and he confirmed that I do have Shingles. He is doing a "frequency wave" treatment on me for three days, B shots and gave me a list of supplements to take, some I am already on for the iodine protocol.I also bought the homeopathic med for shingles. I guess I'm a bit perplexed as to why I ended up with this. I would think since the iodine (taking for two months) is anti-bacterial and anti-viral, and I'm taking Low dose naltrexone (10 months) which bolsters the immune system, why did I have this outbreak? I guess I'm frustrated because my fibro pain is alot better as of the last two weeks and now I have this to contend with for at least three weeks. Just venting I guess.Tina> > > > > > From: "Tina_Dunckel" <tina_dunckel@ ...>> > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:48:29 > > <iodine@groups .

com>> > Subject: Detox symptom or something else?> > > > I am on 100mg of Iodoral with all the supporting supplements and celtic salt. Have been at 100mg for about one month with very minor detox symptoms. About three days ago I got a rash under my left breast and now it looks to be spreading around to my back. It is red, raised with a few blisters. Does this sound like a detox symptom. I'm wondering if I might have shingles. Would the iodine be causing the shingles since we know it can be forcing toxins out of our bodies. Since the shingles is a virus, does iodine detox us from viruses? I am also on LDN 4.5mg for fibromyalgia since february.> > > > Any insite or help on what to do would be appreciated. I lowered the iodine to 50mg this morning. Am also doing salt loading today.I'm not in alot of pain at this point but a bit uncomfortable since the rash is in an area that gets

irritation.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Tina> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > > > > >

November 19, 2009

Jag, thanks! I checked out the www.abchomeopathy.com site. My husband's having

shingle-like break-outs on his back and have been doing the VCO, tried direct

Iodoral last nite.

Sandi

> >

> > Can Iodine completely remove viruses like shingles from someone's system?

> > What would happen if they were exposed again? Would they have immunity?

> >

> > ~W

> >

>

November 21, 2009

I thought the fibro treatment is Iodoral, Armour, and HC/cortef. maybe

you need all of those and they would help with shingles? maybe you are

already taking them.

http://www.fibromyalgiarecovery.com

gracia

Tina_Dunckel wrote:

>

> Thanks everyone for the suggestions and info. I went to my Dr. today

> and he confirmed that I do have Shingles. He is doing a " frequency

> wave " treatment on me for three days, B shots and gave me a list of

> supplements to take, some I am already on for the iodine protocol.

>

> I also bought the homeopathic med for shingles.

>

> I guess I'm a bit perplexed as to why I ended up with this. I would

> think since the iodine (taking for two months) is anti-bacterial and

> anti-viral, and I'm taking Low dose naltrexone (10 months) which

> bolsters the immune system, why did I have this outbreak? I guess I'm

> frustrated because my fibro pain is alot better as of the last two

> weeks and now I have this to contend with for at least three weeks.

> Just venting I guess.

>

> Tina

>

> > >

> > > From: " Tina_Dunckel " <tina_dunckel@ ...>

> > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:48:29

> > > <iodinegroups (DOT) com>

> > > Subject: Detox symptom or something else?

> > >

> > > I am on 100mg of Iodoral with all the supporting supplements and

> celtic salt. Have been at 100mg for about one month with very minor

> detox symptoms. About three days ago I got a rash under my left breast

> and now it looks to be spreading around to my back. It is red, raised

> with a few blisters. Does this sound like a detox symptom. I'm

> wondering if I might have shingles. Would the iodine be causing the

> shingles since we know it can be forcing toxins out of our bodies.

> Since the shingles is a virus, does iodine detox us from viruses? I am

> also on LDN 4.5mg for fibromyalgia since february.

> > >

> > > Any insite or help on what to do would be appreciated. I lowered

> the iodine to 50mg this morning. Am also doing salt loading today.I'm

> not in alot of pain at this point but a bit uncomfortable since the

> rash is in an area that gets irritation.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Tina

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

November 21, 2009

one of the best treatment for fibro is low dose naltrexone.

there are studies at stanford university.

http://snapl.stanford.edu/ldn/

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I thought the fibro treatment is Iodoral, Armour, and HC/cortef. maybeyou need all of those and they would help with shingles? maybe you are

already taking them.http://www.fibromyalgiarecovery.comgraciaTina_Dunckel wrote:>>>> Thanks everyone for the suggestions and info. I went to my Dr. today

> and he confirmed that I do have Shingles. He is doing a " frequency> wave " treatment on me for three days, B shots and gave me a list of> supplements to take, some I am already on for the iodine protocol.

>> I also bought the homeopathic med for shingles.>> I guess I'm a bit perplexed as to why I ended up with this. I would> think since the iodine (taking for two months) is anti-bacterial and

> anti-viral, and I'm taking Low dose naltrexone (10 months) which> bolsters the immune system, why did I have this outbreak? I guess I'm> frustrated because my fibro pain is alot better as of the last two

> weeks and now I have this to contend with for at least three weeks.> Just venting I guess.>> Tina>> > >> > >> > > From: " Tina_Dunckel " <tina_dunckel@ ...>

> > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:48:29> > > <iodinegroups (DOT) com>> > > Subject: Detox symptom or something else?> > >> > > I am on 100mg of Iodoral with all the supporting supplements and

> celtic salt. Have been at 100mg for about one month with very minor> detox symptoms. About three days ago I got a rash under my left breast> and now it looks to be spreading around to my back. It is red, raised

> with a few blisters. Does this sound like a detox symptom. I'm> wondering if I might have shingles. Would the iodine be causing the> shingles since we know it can be forcing toxins out of our bodies.

> Since the shingles is a virus, does iodine detox us from viruses? I am> also on LDN 4.5mg for fibromyalgia since february.> > >> > > Any insite or help on what to do would be appreciated. I lowered

> the iodine to 50mg this morning. Am also doing salt loading today.I'm> not in alot of pain at this point but a bit uncomfortable since the> rash is in an area that gets irritation.> > >

> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Tina> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > >> > >> > >

> > >> > >

May 26, 2010

I have had shingles twice. Once when I was about 31 years old and again when I

was about 40 years old. Both times brought on by stress I believe. You can get

it several times but as you pointed out it's typically something that happens in

older people. If caught soon enough they can give you something now so that the

blisters don't form but you have to be pretty smart to diagnose it and get help

immediately as it's kind of hard to tell if it's a rash or shingles.

>

> Have many of you had experience with shingles? I developed a very mild

> case during my hospital stay after my revision in 2007. It was caught

> right away and treated effectively with no long-lasting effects.

> However, about a month ago I develop what I thought was a small patch of

> dry skin on my back/side. I just kept putting lotion on it and ignoring

> it until my ribs became very painful and the rash patches spread

> recently. I went to my doctor yesterday and she confirmed that it was

> shingles. Unfortunately, I waited quite a while before getting it

> checked out, since I thought it was just dry skin. I mean, who goes to

> the doctor for a little patch of dry skin? So anyways, I am on

> anti-virals now, as well as neurontin for the pain. And I'm on

> antibiotics for another UTI.

>

> The first time I developed shingles, I was told it was likely due to the

> intense physical stress of the revision surgery on the body. This time

> around, who knows why! I was just curious if anyone else has had this

> happen. BTW, I'm 34 years old, and my darling hubby keeps teasing me

> that shingles is " an old person's disease " - even tho I know it's not

> unheard of in younger people

>

May 26, 2010

I have never had shingles, but my mother did about 8 years ago. Hers was on her face and was very painful, my sympathies are with you as this is a most painful illness. One thing I did learn back then was that they were testing the chicken pox vaccine on people who had shingles to see if it would prevent another outbreak. You can only get shingles if you had the chicken pox at sometime in your life. The virus hibernates in your nervous systems and can pop out due to stress and/or aging. The older you get, the more your risk for getting shingles increases. I would ask your doctor about getting the chicken pox vaccine, or do some research on your own prior to asking him/her about it. It may help prevent them from coming back again.

Jeanne

shingles

Have many of you had experience with shingles? I developed a very mildcase during my hospital stay after my revision in 2007. It was caughtright away and treated effectively with no long-lasting effects. However, about a month ago I develop what I thought was a small patch ofdry skin on my back/side. I just kept putting lotion on it and ignoringit until my ribs became very painful and the rash patches spreadrecently. I went to my doctor yesterday and she confirmed that it wasshingles. Unfortunately, I waited quite a while before getting itchecked out, since I thought it was just dry skin. I mean, who goes tothe doctor for a little patch of dry skin? So anyways, I am onanti-virals now, as well as neurontin for the pain. And I'm onantibiotics for another UTI.The first time I developed shingles, I was told it was likely due to theintense physical stress of the revision surgery on the body. This timearound, who knows why! I was just curious if anyone else has had thishappen. BTW, I'm 34 years old, and my darling hubby keeps teasing methat shingles is "an old person's disease" - even tho I know it's notunheard of in younger people

May 26, 2010

Exactly! Had the thought of " shingles " ever crossed my mind, I would have been

much more aggressive in getting it taken care of. But I just thought it was

rash from dry skin! Do you have residual pain from yours? How long did it take

for the rash to clear up?

> >

> > Have many of you had experience with shingles? I developed a very mild

> > case during my hospital stay after my revision in 2007. It was caught

> > right away and treated effectively with no long-lasting effects.

> > However, about a month ago I develop what I thought was a small patch of

> > dry skin on my back/side. I just kept putting lotion on it and ignoring

> > it until my ribs became very painful and the rash patches spread

> > recently. I went to my doctor yesterday and she confirmed that it was

> > shingles. Unfortunately, I waited quite a while before getting it

> > checked out, since I thought it was just dry skin. I mean, who goes to

> > the doctor for a little patch of dry skin? So anyways, I am on

> > anti-virals now, as well as neurontin for the pain. And I'm on

> > antibiotics for another UTI.

> >

> > The first time I developed shingles, I was told it was likely due to the

> > intense physical stress of the revision surgery on the body. This time

> > around, who knows why! I was just curious if anyone else has had this

> > happen. BTW, I'm 34 years old, and my darling hubby keeps teasing me

> > that shingles is " an old person's disease " - even tho I know it's not

> > unheard of in younger people

> >

>

May 26, 2010

I'll ask my doc about that. Thanks for the tip

>

> I have never had shingles, but my mother did about 8 years ago. Hers was on

her face and was very painful, my sympathies are with you as this is a most

painful illness. One thing I did learn back then was that they were testing the

chicken pox vaccine on people who had shingles to see if it would prevent

another outbreak. You can only get shingles if you had the chicken pox at

sometime in your life. The virus hibernates in your nervous systems and can pop

out due to stress and/or aging. The older you get, the more your risk for

getting shingles increases. I would ask your doctor about getting the chicken

pox vaccine, or do some research on your own prior to asking him/her about it.

It may help prevent them from coming back again.

>

> Jeanne

>

> shingles