Re: Iodine and Acid Reflux

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine G.

Would you first mind trying another cure? I just cured myself after 6

weeks from not properly breaking a fast. I had forgotten this rather

important step when fasting, duh!!!!

Anyhow, here is natural Acid Reflux cure

2 tablespoons of Apple cider Vinegar (Bragg's brand is easy to find,

it's even in health section at local grocery store)

8 oz. of distilled water

and if you'd like you can add 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda. ( I have a

bit of an electrolyte imbalance so baking soda makes me feel weird

sometimes. other people have not had my problem with it)

stir until soda is disolved.

drink three times a day preferably an hour before each meal.

It only took a day and half to go away!!!

Let me know how it works for you, or if you even try it. But if you

would like more testimonies go to

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/acid_reflux.html

Take care!

Amy

On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Elaine Gallant wrote:

>

> Hello, everybody. I'm Elaine G. Right now, my main project is I'm

> working on an Acid Reflux plan.

>

> Conventional medicine had some strong antacids, but they can't cure

> acid reflux.

>

> Recently heard about the Iodine as a primary treatment that seems to

> work on acid reflux!

>

> That's the main reason I'm here. Then I saw this wonderful post:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

elaine, I had a lot of luck with digestive enzymes but what really helped was DGL (deglychirrized licquorice), I rarely get symptoms now, sandraElaine Gallant <elainegallant@...> wrote: Hello, everybody. I'm Elaine G. Right now, my main project is I'm working on an Acid Reflux plan. Conventional medicine had some strong antacids, but they can't cure acid reflux.Recently heard about the Iodine as a primary treatment that seems to work on acid reflux! That's the main reason I'm here.

Then I saw this wonderful post:> I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain health> benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid Reflux is> gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious with it, 2> drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a week.Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for Acid Reflux is what brings me here.YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid Reflux. Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with her. This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very important.I hardly know what to ask first!

Don't pick lemons.

See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

[Guest guest]

>

> elaine, I had a lot of luck with digestive enzymes but what really

helped was DGL (deglychirrized licquorice), I rarely get symptoms now,

sandra

People with mild GERD symptoms can and have found relief with both DGL

and cider vinegar.

It's kind of you to bring up these treatments for occasional

indigestion.

My target audience is much sicker. I'm involved with people so sick

they are considering stomach operation.

They have already gone thru the licorice and vinegar.

I will definitely be working on an Iodine acid reflux program.

[Guest guest]

This is the #1 reason I am here. REFLUX! My life is plagued by this

horrible beast and the constant uncontrollable burn is soooo

frustrating. I have tried EVERYTHING, including this baking soda/acv

cure. I did not notice much of a difference and I did it for 2 weeks.

I have had an h. pylori blood test, barrium swallow, endoscopy,

gastric emptying study, manometry, and 48hr ph test. My doc says I

should get surgery, but I am determined to fix it without getting my

esophogus wrapped up and stapled to my stomach.

What have you learned about iodine and reflux, Elaine?

greg

>

> >

> > Hello, everybody. I'm Elaine G. Right now, my main project is I'm

> > working on an Acid Reflux plan.

> >

> > Conventional medicine had some strong antacids, but they can't cure

> > acid reflux.

> >

> > Recently heard about the Iodine as a primary treatment that seems to

> > work on acid reflux!

> >

> > That's the main reason I'm here. Then I saw this wonderful post:

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Greg-

You should also join my group, Heal_Acid_Reflux. I'm going to

center the Iodine experiment from there.

>

> This is the #1 reason I am here. REFLUX! My life is plagued by

this

> horrible beast and the constant uncontrollable burn is soooo

> frustrating. I have tried EVERYTHING, including this baking

soda/acv

> cure.

Ok, I know for sure baking soda is not a long term fix for long term

Acid Reflux. Once the condition turns into actual GERD there are no

quickie cures.

> I did not notice much of a difference and I did it for 2 weeks.

> I have had an h. pylori blood test, barrium swallow, endoscopy,

> gastric emptying study, manometry, and 48hr ph test. My doc says I

> should get surgery, but I am determined to fix it without getting

my

> esophogus wrapped up and stapled to my stomach.

I believe GERD is curable without surgery.

> What have you learned about iodine and reflux, Elaine?

>

> greg

Ok, it's looking to me as if Iodine can be a very effective way to

resolve the Acid Reflux infection.

MD's do not believe Acid Reflux is an infection, but several

experienced doctors and researchers do.

There are two ways to go on knocking out the initial infection;

antibiotics and the second one is Iodine therapy. To me, the Iodine

treatments seem to make more sense.

[Guest guest]

Acid reflux can sometimes be caused by food allergies.

Something to consider.

Irene

At 12:35 PM 2/25/2007, you wrote:

Hello, everybody. I'm Elaine G.

Right now, my main project is I'm

working on an Acid Reflux plan.

Conventional medicine had some strong antacids, but they can't cure

acid reflux.

Recently heard about the Iodine as a primary treatment that seems to

work on acid reflux!

That's the main reason I'm here. Then I saw this wonderful post:

> I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain health

> benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid Reflux

is

> gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious with it,

2

> drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a

week.

Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for Acid

Reflux is what brings me here.

YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid Reflux.

Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with her.

This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very important.

I hardly know what to ask first!

[Guest guest]

Also too low HCl as well. I am dealing with that right now.

Steph

Re: Iodine and Acid Reflux

Acid reflux can sometimes be caused by food allergies.Something to consider.IreneAt 12:35 PM 2/25/2007, you wrote:

Hello, everybody. I'm Elaine G. Right now, my main project is I'm working on an Acid Reflux plan. Conventional medicine had some strong antacids, but they can't cure acid reflux.Recently heard about the Iodine as a primary treatment that seems to work on acid reflux! That's the main reason I'm here. Then I saw this wonderful post:> I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain health> benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid Reflux is> gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious with it, 2> drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a week.Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for Acid Reflux is what brings me here.YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid Reflux. Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with her. This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very important.I hardly know what to ask first!

[Guest guest]

acid reflux is usually caused by prescription drugs. Antibiotics can

ruin your internal flora. LOTS of people get GERD after a course of

antibiotics.

Lots more get GERD after popping pain pills. NSAIDS in particular

cause the stomach to cease producing the mucus necessary to coat the

stomach.

Food allergies? I have no idea, but believe it's possible, it would

be long after drug related cases.

> > > I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain health

> > > benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid

Reflux is

> > > gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious with

it, 2

> > > drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a week.

> >

> >Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for Acid

> >Reflux is what brings me here.

> >

> >YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid Reflux.

> >Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with

her.

> >This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very important.

> >

> >I hardly know what to ask first!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

One specific type of food allergy in the stomach is called allergic

eosinophilic gastroenteritis. This condition is characterized by symptoms

of acid reflux, severe abdominal pain after eating, vomiting, and

diarrhea. With allergic eosinophilic gastroenteritis, the esophageal

area, stomach and upper intestinal tract can become inflamed compromising

its proper function. Oftentimes, people who have serious acid reflux

problems that are not responsive to medications have this condition.

Although this condition is caused by an allergic reaction to food, food

allergy tests reveal positive results in only about half of the tests

conducted. If left untreated, the inflammation in the stomach can result

in holes in the stomach lining leading to additional problems.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=faq & dbid=30#how

At 07:04 PM 2/25/2007, you wrote:

acid reflux is usually caused by

prescription drugs. Antibiotics can

ruin your internal flora. LOTS of people get GERD after a course of

antibiotics.

Lots more get GERD after popping pain pills. NSAIDS in particular

cause the stomach to cease producing the mucus necessary to coat the

stomach.

Food allergies? I have no idea, but believe it's possible, it would

be long after drug related cases.

> > > I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain

health

> > > benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid

Reflux is

> > > gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious

with

it, 2

> > > drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a

week.

> >

> >Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for

Acid

> >Reflux is what brings me here.

> >

> >YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid

Reflux.

> >Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with

her.

> >This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very

important.

> >

> >I hardly know what to ask first!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

-One of my brothers has SERIOUS acid reflux and takes a little tablet

callec Aciphex. That's small enough he can handle it. Anything larger

gets stuck in his throat. I saw the xrays once when he was in the

hospital (one doctor thought he had espophegeal cancer) after not

being able to swallow. His throat was BRIGHT RED. NOT fun I can tell

you that. I on the other hand was found to have an alkaline stomache.

Carol B

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine, let me go a little further; my Acid Reflux was not just a

" little " bothersome, it was something that I fought for quite a while,

with a few weapons, and I refused to live on prescription drugs for it

unless I had to. I had it no matter what I ate, a bowl of cereal or a

full meal, didn't matter. It seemed sometimes a glass of water caused

it! I woke at night gasping and choking with it. Apple Cider vinegar

set my stomach on fire. I live on antacids and PPIs. And I still had

somewhat of a " sensation " of something about to happen any minute.

So, to say that a couple of drops of Iodine a day has so far stopped

mine, is nothing less short of amazing, is putting it mildly. Just HOW

it works, I'm not sure. And, since I'm also taking it for other

things, and not JUST that, is a huge plus. So, I have my fingers

crossed it will continue to work. And, no, I don't think it's just a

coincindence. So it could help you and others, too. Good luck to

you! Donna

> > I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain health

> > benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid Reflux is

> > gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious with it, 2

> > drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a week.

>

> Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for Acid

> Reflux is what brings me here.

>

> YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid Reflux.

> Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with her.

> This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very important.

>

> I hardly know what to ask first!

>

[Guest guest]

Take a spoonful of apple cider vinigar prior to

every meal. It works wonders for most people. It's very

acidic and in most cases will be cause to shut down the

production of acid in your stomach. To most people this

advice first appears the exact opposite of what they are

looking for but if you understand the way the body works it

actually makes sense and works rather well. Try it for a week

and if it does not help then think about other things.

Surpressing acid, which is the normal medical advice is in

most cases the wrong thing to do but don't rely on what i'm

saying. Try it and see for yourself.

BOB

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[Guest guest]

Take a spoonful of apple cider vinigar prior to

every meal. It works wonders for most people. It's very

acidic and in most cases will be cause to shut down the

production of acid in your stomach. To most people this

advice first appears the exact opposite of what they are

looking for but if you understand the way the body works it

actually makes sense and works rather well. Try it for a week

and if it does not help then think about other things.

Surpressing acid, which is the normal medical advice is in

most cases the wrong thing to do but don't rely on what i'm

saying. Try it and see for yourself.

BOB

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That truely is amazing and I very much hope I get similar results. I

have been taking the iodine for about 2 weeks now though. The first

week I was taking 25mg. The second week I have taken 50-100 mg daily.

My problem persists:/. I guess I will continue because there is no

reason not to. If anything I have noticed that the iodine tends to

have a calming effect for me. Did you have problems with bloating too?

greg

> > > I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain health

> > > benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid Reflux is

> > > gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious with it, 2

> > > drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a week.

> >

> > Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for Acid

> > Reflux is what brings me here.

> >

> > YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid Reflux.

> > Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with her.

> > This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very important.

> >

> > I hardly know what to ask first!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know that the stomach needs acid to function, and that the ACV does the trick for many, but it set my stomach on fire for some reason. I wonder if the Iodine does something to change the acid to something more friendly to the lining of the stomach, so to speak, yet still remain acidic? I just have no idea of the chemistry behind this, but do wonder about it. I have even took my vitamins with the Lugol's right before bed, for a few nights, (a general no-no) and it did not bother me at all.

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would like my husband to try the iodine for his acid reflux which he has

had for more than 20 years. Do you need to take the liquid form of iodine

for it to work or can you take the tablet. Is the liquid hard to swallow

because of the taste?

Thank you,

Sue

So, to say that a couple of drops of Iodine a day has so far stopped

mine, is nothing less short of amazing, is putting it mildly. Just HOW

it works, I'm not sure.

[Guest guest]

I am assuming that you have had all of the other tests

to rule out other problems? If you have the time there is a

new test for the Helio Bachter Plyori bacteria that causes

ulcers (and stomach cancer) that is a breath test. The

infection is highly curable with some simply and old

antibiotics (Flagyl/Tetracycline) so there is no need for

anyone to get stomach cancer anymore except in very rare

cases. Sorry to hear how you reacted to Apple Cider Vinegar.

Worked great for me so you obviously have a different

problem. Always good though to go the easy route first.

Good luck, BOB

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HI Bob, I just had the breath test for H. Pylori. I don't know the results yet but doubt I have it. From what I have read the relationship between H.Pylori and GERDS is unclear with many saying that they are not related. My own personal experience is that something like Losec will clear up my GERDS. I also read that after treatment for H.Pylori that many find their GERDS worse. Annrobert <wiech89@...> wrote: I am assuming that you have had all

of the other teststo rule out other problems? If you have the time there is anew test for the Helio Bachter Plyori bacteria that causesulcers (and stomach cancer) that is a breath test. Theinfection is highly curable with some simply and oldantibiotics (Flagyl/Tetracycline) so there is no need foranyone to get stomach cancer anymore except in very rarecases. Sorry to hear how you reacted to Apple Cider Vinegar.Worked great for me so you obviously have a differentproblem. Always good though to go the easy route first. Good luck, BOB__________________________________________________________It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar.http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sue.

I'm going to be running the Iodine for Acid Reflux test over on the

group called " Heal_Reflux_Now " .

>

> Hi,

>

> I would like my husband to try the iodine for his acid reflux

which he has

> had for more than 20 years. Do you need to take the liquid form

of iodine

> for it to work or can you take the tablet. Is the liquid hard to

swallow

> because of the taste?

As I understand it, what we'll do is mix up our own aqueous Iodine

solution.

We'll put a few drops of this in a glass of water to be taken 2X a

day, I believe. I'm going to review the process.

The subject also needs to be tested for allergy to Iodine. It's

supposed to be next to taste free due to the small amounts used.

[Guest guest]

Ok, what happens is the antibiotics used to treat h.pylori also work

on the Acid Reflux bug.

However, immediately after the antibiotic is finished, the patient

has to rebuild their good intestinal bacteria.

MD's do not understand the importance of good flora. They just want

to kill everything, and not replace it.

So after much antibiotic treatment, people end up with GERD, acid

reflux cause their digestive tract has been hijacked by the more

hearty bad bacteria.

> I am assuming that you have had all of the other tests

> to rule out other problems? If you have the time there is a

> new test for the Helio Bachter Plyori bacteria that causes

> ulcers (and stomach cancer) that is a breath test. The

> infection is highly curable with some simply and old

> antibiotics (Flagyl/Tetracycline) so there is no need for

> anyone to get stomach cancer anymore except in very rare

> cases. Sorry to hear how you reacted to Apple Cider Vinegar.

> Worked great for me so you obviously have a different

> problem. Always good though to go the easy route first.

>

> Good luck, BOB

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There is a book called " Why Stomach acid is good for you " which covers a lot of the issues. In short, most folks do better if they take HCL+enzymes. Esp. if you are over 40. Stomach acid levels go down as you get older (and in response to some IgA issues), and when they go down, they don't trigger the " close " trigger on the stomach sphincter.

I took Thorne biogest for about a year, then no longer needed it. ACV didn't help much, though kimchi did (something the bacteria produce? cayenne? ginger? I dunno). I've heard of a whole lot of people who swear by Biogest though. You keep adding capsules until you get a bit of heartburn, then cut back by one.

-- On 2/27/07, Ann Noliro <noliro@...> wrote:

HI Bob, I just had the breath test for H. Pylori. I don't know the results yet but doubt I have it. From what I have read the relationship between H.Pylori and GERDS is unclear with many saying that they are not related. My own personal experience is that something like Losec will clear up my GERDS. I also read that after treatment for H.Pylori that many find their GERDS worse. Ann

[Guest guest]

I don't know why treatment of H. Plyori would make

GERD worse but it may have something to do with intestinal

flora as that is what antibiotics destroy. If all else fails

you may try re-populating your gut with new microbes via

probiotics and not on the cheap but the best quaility you can

find.

On the subject of ACV. The idea is that if your

stomach is producing too much acid, and you take ACV, which

is very acidic, it will have the effect of telling your

autonomic system that you now have too much acid and your

body will shut down the stomach's ability to make more acid.

It's a counterintuitive process and the exact opposite of

what mainstream drug based medicine would prescribe but

people have known this for a few thousand years before drugs

were invented. It's unfortunate that such an effort has been

made by the Pharma cartel over the past 60 years to wipe this

information from our collective memories but that is what

they have accomplished. They have been so successful at it

that they have convinced the entire population that until 60

years ago when they arrived on the scene that there was no

such thing as medicine. There are lots of home remedies out

there for many ailments that are simple and safe. Sodium

Bicarbonate and Mastic Gum are a few other home remedies.

They are simple, cheap and safe to try and you will know

pretty quickly if they are going to work for you.

Good idea to check for H. Plyori. Remember that the

same people who are telling you now that it's not associcated

with GERD were only a few years ago telling everyone that

stomach ulcers were the product of an overactive imagination

, stress and spicey foods. So, always consider the source and

don't forget that what these experts in white coats tell you

today may become an old wives tale tomorrow.

You can also keep a journal of your dietary habits

and one by one begin to eliminate certain foods to see if

this has an effect or your stomach problems. The only thing

you can be sure about with regards to medicine is that

whatever they tell you is written in stone today will be

dismissed and proven to be totally incorrrect at some point

in the future. Medicine is an art form, not a science as too

many have been taught to believe.

GOOD LUCK BOB

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No, unless it was really bad, then I felt uncomfortable. Donna

> > > > I started the Lugol's around 10 days ago, just for plain health

> > > > benefits, and right away, about 2 days in, my awful Acid Reflux is

> > > > gone. I am amazed to say the least. I have been cautious with

it, 2

> > > > drops per day. Thinking I may back off in 3 weeks to 2x a week.

> > >

> > > Wow, 2 drops is not very much. This subject of Iodine for Acid

> > > Reflux is what brings me here.

> > >

> > > YES. I heard elsewhere the Iodine could work for Acid Reflux.

> > > Dr. believes Acid Reflux is an infection, and I agree with

her.

> > > This use of Iodine for GERD or acid reflux is very important.

> > >

> > > I hardly know what to ask first!

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, I use the Lugol's which is liquid drops, I guess you could use

the tablet form which is Iodoral. The taste does not bother me. I

just put it in water, drink it and it's gone, but you can use juice or

milk or something. But the taste was mild to me. At least a couple

drops in a glass of water. Donna

>

> Hi,

>

> I would like my husband to try the iodine for his acid reflux which

he has

> had for more than 20 years. Do you need to take the liquid form of

iodine

> for it to work or can you take the tablet. Is the liquid hard to

swallow

> because of the taste?

>

> Thank you,

> Sue

>

>

>

> So, to say that a couple of drops of Iodine a day has so far stopped

> mine, is nothing less short of amazing, is putting it mildly. Just HOW

> it works, I'm not sure.

>

[Guest guest]

I urge people to consider that gastric reflux is usually caused

by its primary trigger, hypochlorhydria, or insufficient stomach

acid. Thus it's no wonder the drugs, which further reduce stomach

acidity, don't work on it.

I think Big Medicine is trying to make a disease out of their

disinterest in ordering up the non-drug Betaine HCl for the

client, which works from the first time it is used.

Food allergies (intolerances actually) disappear pretty quickly

when hypochlorhydria and the result, bowel dysbiosis and leaky

gut syndrome are corrected.

We're finding this effect is actually pretty reliable on the

candidiasis list, where they are treating hypochlorhydria if they

need to, correcting bowel ecology (and bacterial gastroenteritis)

with inulin and ensuring the irritants and toxins are quenched

(allergic gastroenteritis) with undenatured whey and selenium.

This (plus a decent low-carb diet and a few nutrients) forms a

core part of a successful bowel and overall health regime because

it is biologically supportive, and without the biological support

anyone's health regime is obviously undermined and inadequate.

If the site posted doen't have this information it is sadly

lacking in core principles of intestinal wellness.

Duncan

On 26 Feb 2007 at 8:41, Coconut Oil

wrote:

>

> Posted by: " Murray " doublaswalter@... doug2065

> Date: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:35 pm ((PST))

>

> A good site about foods in general.

> Cheers, Doug

>

>

> One specific type of food allergy in the stomach is called allergic

> eosinophilic gastroenteritis. This condition is characterized by

> symptoms of acid reflux, severe abdominal pain after eating, vomiting,

> and diarrhea. With allergic eosinophilic gastroenteritis, the

> esophageal area, stomach and upper intestinal tract can become

> inflamed compromising its proper function. Oftentimes, people who have

> serious acid reflux problems that are not responsive to medications

> have this condition. Although this condition is caused by an allergic

> reaction to food, food allergy tests reveal positive results in only

> about half of the tests conducted. If left untreated, the inflammation

> in the stomach can result in holes in the stomach lining leading to

> additional problems.

>

> http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=faq & dbid=30#how

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