Re: colloidal silver...

[Guest guest]

thats terrible to take advantage of her. should be ashamed of yourself.

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote: ...also look into Rife if you

have the money to spend. it appears a plasma

tube type rife machine might help a lot. they're real popular with the

chronic lyme crowd & that's a tough virus to manage. Rife is said to be an

approved part of mainstream medicine in germany.

my landlord/source of work g.c. came up with breast cancer so if i can get

her to squander her credit resources on a good machine i will. they

apparently have shown some considerable success with cancers when all else

has failed accordidng to the supposedly historical facts & testimonials, &

her available credit is built on the stupid annihilation of my financial

well being so i figure go for it.

> colloidal silver...

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> I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about colloidal

> silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

> known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

> Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

> love to know more.

> I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> Thanks! Ron

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[Guest guest]

try milk thistle

johnnierottton <johnnierottton@...> wrote: I've been reading so

many testimonials on the net about colloidal

silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

love to know more.

I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

(p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks! Ron

[Guest guest]

About Milk Thistle--I have taken it and it doesn't help. I have tried

the herbal route--doesn't work for me but maybe for someone else it

will.

I've been reading so many

testimonials on the net about colloidal

> silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

> known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

> Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

> love to know more.

> I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> Thanks! Ron

>

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[Guest guest]

quick to judge, eh?

you don't know squat about this mess & i don't feel like discussing it.

suffice it to say it's in my interest to keep her alive & functional until

such time as i'm ready to leave on my own terms.

> colloidal silver...

> >

> >

> > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about colloidal

> > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

> > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

> > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

> > love to know more.

> > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > Thanks! Ron

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

not judging you dude but you sound like a cold person. i do know about this

mess if you are talking about hep c i have it also. sorry if i offended you but

the truth hurts sometimes. what about her? she doesn't matter?

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote: quick to judge, eh?

you don't know squat about this mess & i don't feel like discussing it.

suffice it to say it's in my interest to keep her alive & functional until

such time as i'm ready to leave on my own terms.

> colloidal silver...

> >

> >

> > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about colloidal

> > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

> > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

> > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

> > love to know more.

> > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > Thanks! Ron

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

What is Moducare?...never heard of that.

In addition to the Oil of oregano, are you taking a pro-biotic to replace

all the good bacteria that you are killing off?

[Guest guest]

Hi April,

Moducare is an immune system builder. (at least it's supposed to be) A dr had

prescribed it for me along with the oregano, milk thistle and olive leaf .

However....it obviously hasn't been doing the trick according to my latest liver

enzyme and viral load count, so I'm moving to colostrum, s.s.t., liver

cleansing, maximum milk thistle and I'm going to try colloidal silver.

It's my understanding that I shouldn't be killing off good bacteria

with the herbal approach. Isn't that just something that happens with

antibiotics?

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

What is Moducare?...never heard of that.

In addition to the Oil of oregano, are you taking a pro-biotic to replace

all the good bacteria that you are killing off?

[Guest guest]

....you made a judgment against me that i'm taking advantage of her &

pronounced it terrible & that i should be ashamed. that is totally

superficial, erroneous, & inappropriate. the only hurt it causes me is the

waste of my time & energy in feeling some obligation to respond to it.

the mess i refer to is (obviously i would think) related to my relationship

with her & my apparent attitude that your are making your judgment upon.

it's an obvious & safe assumption that either you or someone close to you

has hep-c or you probably wouldn't be here.

right, she only matters to the extent that she's useful to me, and that's a

situation of her own creation over a long time, which mirrors exactly how

she is & always has been not far beneath a cheery, warm, friendly veneer.

i can be cold as ice, & will turn that way like a switch has been flicked or

gradually over time under enough threat/stress, & that can be very dangerous

to the point of deadly....that is typically human, like it or not.

but all that has little directly to do with the purpose of this hep-c list

except that relationship matters do have large impact on physical health in

many ways both obvious & not.

i don't deliberately do anything TO her (bad things) but i've come to be not

interested in doing anything FOR her either unless there's something

worthwhile in it for me. i regard her as a lazy, greedy, emotionally

abusive swollen parasite in my life, & except for the considerable material

loss & inconvenience it would cause me i don't really care what evil might

befall her.

> colloidal silver...

> > >

> > >

> > > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about colloidal

> > > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

> > > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

> > > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

> > > love to know more.

> > > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> > > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > > Thanks! Ron

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I've been taking Milk Thistle for about 2 months now and i feel better. I eat

only live foods. Not Beef. To much iron which isn't good for hep c. I live on

salads when the nausea is at it's worst. Licorice is also good for the liver.

Lemon in water is best for nausea.

a <vesta3553@...> wrote:

About Milk Thistle--I have taken it and it doesn't help. I have tried

the herbal route--doesn't work for me but maybe for someone else it

will.

I've been reading so many

testimonials on the net about colloidal

> silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

> known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

> Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

> love to know more.

> I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> Thanks! Ron

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

you shouldn't have to explain yourself to anyone as I don't know you and

aren't we all here talking because of a disease --I am sure you have

your reasons as to what ever is going on in your life is personal and I

don't think any of us here should be going into anyones personal

business. Hope that you are feeling better in whatever treatment that

you are doing.

a

...also look

> > > into Rife if you have the money to spend. it appears a plasma

> > > tube type rife machine might help a lot. they're real popular with

the

> > > chronic lyme crowd & that's a tough virus to manage. Rife is

> > said to be an

> > > approved part of mainstream medicine in germany.

> > > my landlord/source of work g.c. came up with breast cancer so

> > if i can get

> > > her to squander her credit resources on a good machine i will.

they

> > > apparently have shown some considerable success with cancers

> > when all else

> > > has failed accordidng to the supposedly historical facts &

> > testimonials, &

> > > her available credit is built on the stupid annihilation of my

financial

> > > well being so i figure go for it.

> > >

> > > > colloidal silver...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about

colloidal

> > > > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried

it, or

> > > > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the

results.

> > > > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and

would

> > > > love to know more.

> > > > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> > > > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are

climbing.

> > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > > > Thanks! Ron

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

ok i am sorry, i just felt so bad as my sister-in-law had breast cancer and i

was with her in her treatments, guess i am in the wrong again sorry. i guess i

was comparing her to your landlady, my sis-in-law is a very sweet gentle soul.

yes i have hep c the really nasty one and i am scared s---less. i didn't mean to

judge you which apparently i did without knowing the facts and that wasn't my

right to do that. i am trully sorry you have this disease and i hope all will

be ok for you. i have read your comments on different approaches to hep c and

found them very hopeful. i feel awful bad i said those things i am just a

foolish old woman i guess. i wish all the best for you.

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote: ...you made a judgment

against me that i'm taking advantage of her &

pronounced it terrible & that i should be ashamed. that is totally

superficial, erroneous, & inappropriate. the only hurt it causes me is the

waste of my time & energy in feeling some obligation to respond to it.

the mess i refer to is (obviously i would think) related to my relationship

with her & my apparent attitude that your are making your judgment upon.

it's an obvious & safe assumption that either you or someone close to you

has hep-c or you probably wouldn't be here.

right, she only matters to the extent that she's useful to me, and that's a

situation of her own creation over a long time, which mirrors exactly how

she is & always has been not far beneath a cheery, warm, friendly veneer.

i can be cold as ice, & will turn that way like a switch has been flicked or

gradually over time under enough threat/stress, & that can be very dangerous

to the point of deadly....that is typically human, like it or not.

but all that has little directly to do with the purpose of this hep-c list

except that relationship matters do have large impact on physical health in

many ways both obvious & not.

i don't deliberately do anything TO her (bad things) but i've come to be not

interested in doing anything FOR her either unless there's something

worthwhile in it for me. i regard her as a lazy, greedy, emotionally

abusive swollen parasite in my life, & except for the considerable material

loss & inconvenience it would cause me i don't really care what evil might

befall her.

> colloidal silver...

> > >

> > >

> > > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about colloidal

> > > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it, or

> > > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the results.

> > > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and would

> > > love to know more.

> > > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> > > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > > Thanks! Ron

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

You sure you want to risk taking colloidal silver? Read this

personal experience first and then make up your mind if you want to

take it.

http://www.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.h

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Peace

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> I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about colloidal

> silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it,

or

> known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the

results.

> Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and

would

> love to know more.

> I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> Thanks! Ron

>

[Guest guest]

i'm sure i do.

read into these carefully & critically. also NIH website stuff.

the NIH clearly describes the amount that can be take continuously for a

lifetime without causing argyria which is quite a lot, & nothing can be

found about effects of argyria being anything but cosmetic. the toxicity

quackwatch refers to has, for me, only lead to more refs to argyria. now

turning blue/gray sucks but it's a social impediment not a physical health

risk. use of lots of poorly made ionic/water CS for a long time still seems

to pose less risk of argyria than use of other forms commmonly used in

medicine prior to 1975.

it apparently HAD been used effectively for a lot of things for a long time

until more, or at least as, effective antibiotics were developed after which

it was dropped. " respected " research was probably dropped long before it

dropped out of use.

a whole lot of people are going to be looking very blotched up ugly in not

too many years as their tattoos spread & fade. the social impediment effect

of discoloration in general will likely diminish significantly. breast

implants are a high dollar industry so they're allright (ugly & stupid but

ok with medicine) even though they often can prevent examination procedures

from detecting breast cancer early enough therefore causing death. of

course most of the fools getting them installed probably aren't going to be

bothering with exams anyway.

etc etc etc.

beware the BS on both sides of all medical issues. ego & greed induced

corruption are everywhere, & smart & well intended people have their blind

sides too. a blind side can be an insistence on making decisions for you

based on values of theirs not yours... for example the advisibility of a

double full mastectomy versus lumpectomy + rads + chemo. the protocols

(superficially & apparently) give similar long term survival rates but

current " standard of care " assumes it's superior to not have hideous

scarring (which can be covered) & the added adverse potentiall mortal risks

& higher likelihood immediate or long term health & comfort impacts of the

rads & chemo are worth it to avoid the emotional distress of what the

patient sees in the mirror or displays in some bathing suits....etc etc

the vain cud-chewing herd is content to be stupidly led to harvest, & money

doesn't talk it swears.

> Re: colloidal silver...

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> You sure you want to risk taking colloidal silver? Read this

> personal experience first and then make up your mind if you want to

> take it.

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> http://www.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

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> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.h

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> > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about colloidal

> > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried it,

> or

> > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the

> results.

> > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and

> would

> > love to know more.

> > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano

> > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are climbing.

> > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > Thanks! Ron

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[Guest guest]

okay

Not trying to stop anyone from taking it, just showing a POTENTIAL

side effect, even if it is " just " cosmetic, i am sure it is

extremely damaging to one's self esteem and would affect your life

in numerous other ways. But if it is working and not turning you

into a smurf then it is your choice. :)I am aware there are two

sides to every argument, i am not one of the ignorant . Good luck.

Peace

> > >

> > > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about

colloidal

> > > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried

it,

> > or

> > > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the

> > results.

> > > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST

and

> > would

> > > love to know more.

> > > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of

oregano

> > > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are

climbing.

> > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > > Thanks! Ron

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> recent discussions re colloidal silver here added to discussions

on another

> hep-c list (a piss poor one for my purposes that i dropped)

stimulating my

> interest so i looked into it around the net. despite the

greedscum with big

> indirect claims & their collections of testimonials which read

well but

> might be largely more bs i decided to try it since it appears

harmless

> enough (even including studying over the cdc & nih positions) & was

> affordable to get set up via ebay with a used machine & a new

meter by going

> without decent groceries for a week. being broke when i ran out of

> distilled water i only had enough to do a half jar batch at one

point & that

> screwed up my machine so it doesn't really work right & doesn't

turn itself

> off & apparently doesn't control current properly (stays at high)

so my

> solution comes out with a lot of aglommerate & slightly yellowed

instead of

> clear so i strain it through a couple layers of coffee filter.

the HM

> TDS/PPM meter broke after two weeks & has been sent for warranty

service.

> after a few weeks i'm not sure if it's doing anything

significant. the

> first day the liver area ache disappeared for the first time in a

looooong

> time but it came back, but seems lessened overall. sometimes it

seems like

> it's worse than ever but mostly seems generally better & despite

current 6th

> house saturn transit afflictions being a severe drain i have more

energy in

> ways....but then i stopped smoking too so it's impossible to tell

what's

> from what.

> the one person who manages his viral load with cs that i've yakked

with

> directly about this says it takes about a month or more for the cs

to get

> the upper hand.

>

> search the archives for this list & there's more to read. it's

good to

> search archives before posting questions that obviously must get

asked over

> & over.

>

> > colloidal silver...

> >

> >

> > I've been reading so many testimonials on the net about

colloidal

> > silver drastically reducing viral loads. Has anyone here tried

it, or

> > known anyone that has tried it? I'd be very curious about the

results.

> > Have there been any studies? Also, I've read a lot about SST and

would

> > love to know more.

> > I've been on moducare, olive leaf extract and oil of

oregano

> > (p73) for a year and my viral load and liver enzymes are

climbing.

> > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > Thanks! Ron

> >THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO EXPERMENT WITH.iT IS dangerous to us

with Hep....Do your research,,,Go to hepatitis neighborhood in

archives. Mickey

>