need a little help

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In a message dated 12/20/2004 3:13:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

amanda_bueno@... writes:

> can't move my arm up or down or sideways, can't even cook and wash dishes.

> the pain is horrible. have you tried this method yourself

:

Why do you think its calcium deposits? Second question : do you have GB

trouble? There is a muscle group in the deltoid group that refers from the GB.

When I was the most GB acute I felt like I have been shot or had an arrow in

that

arm. Is it possible it is your GB and not calcium deposits?

Just a thought, (Atlanta)

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Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: " Bueno " <amanda_bueno@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:10 AM

Subject: need a little help

> hello,

>

> i am in excruciating pain, i can't move my left arm due to swelling of

> shoulder joint caused by calcium deposits. any herb and supplement for

> pain and inflammation and for dissolving the calcium deposits?

>

Are you sure it is from calcium deposits? If so and this takes a while

(months), ginger juice. Several ounces a day. Very hot, will heat you up.

If you are already a hot constitution it is going to whack your other hot

symptoms out even farther. This will be positive no matter what but will

not dissolve the calcium; turmeric or curcumin (turmeric) extract. The

curcuminoids in turmeric have been shown in numerous studies to be more anti

inflammatory than cortical steroids. Start low and work your way up until

you get desired effect. If it is pain from calcium deposits this may have

limited effect.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave, this is what the doctor told me after viewing my x-ray the other night.

I had to go to the ER since I was almost passing out due to pain!! so turmeric

works but NOT if it is caused by calcium deposits? ginder juice, what does it do

since you said it does not dissolve calcium? is ginger juice made by brewing

fresh ginger in boiling water?

Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: " Bueno " <amanda_bueno@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:10 AM

Subject: need a little help

> hello,

>

> i am in excruciating pain, i can't move my left arm due to swelling of

> shoulder joint caused by calcium deposits. any herb and supplement for

> pain and inflammation and for dissolving the calcium deposits?

>

Are you sure it is from calcium deposits? If so and this takes a while

(months), ginger juice. Several ounces a day. Very hot, will heat you up.

If you are already a hot constitution it is going to whack your other hot

symptoms out even farther. This will be positive no matter what but will

not dissolve the calcium; turmeric or curcumin (turmeric) extract. The

curcuminoids in turmeric have been shown in numerous studies to be more anti

inflammatory than cortical steroids. Start low and work your way up until

you get desired effect. If it is pain from calcium deposits this may have

limited effect.

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Bueno " <amanda_bueno@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:09 PM

Subject: Re: need a little help

> Hi Dave, this is what the doctor told me after viewing my x-ray the other

> night. I had to go to the ER since I was almost passing out due to pain!!

> so turmeric works but NOT if it is caused by calcium deposits?

It isn't specifically dissolving to calcium deposits (even though closely

related to ginger). But the anti inflammatory effect will help dramatically

with the swelling and irritation from the calcium deposits. Turmeric is

approx. 7% curcuminoids and the extract is up to 95%. pick up the extract

and pound the stuff. It may give you a lot of relief very quick.

ginder juice, what does it do since you said it does not dissolve calcium?

is ginger juice made by brewing fresh ginger in boiling water?

ginger juice is an old Ayurvedic remedy for disolving calcium deposits. Not

ginger tea unfortunately but juicing fresh ginger in large quantities. Like

I said, very hot (you can mix it with something cooling like celery juice)

and takes a long time to dissolve deposits (those deposits took a lot longer

to form). There are a lot of other things that would be potentially helpful

with the calcium deposits too. In the view of natural healing it is

basically a toxicity issue. An energetically cold dry condition.

>

> Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

> Dave

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Bueno " <amanda_bueno@...>

> <gallstones >

> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:10 AM

> Subject: need a little help

>

>

> > hello,

> >

> > i am in excruciating pain, i can't move my left arm due to swelling of

> > shoulder joint caused by calcium deposits. any herb and supplement for

> > pain and inflammation and for dissolving the calcium deposits?

> >

> Are you sure it is from calcium deposits? If so and this takes a while

> (months), ginger juice. Several ounces a day. Very hot, will heat you

> up.

> If you are already a hot constitution it is going to whack your other hot

> symptoms out even farther. This will be positive no matter what but will

> not dissolve the calcium; turmeric or curcumin (turmeric) extract. The

> curcuminoids in turmeric have been shown in numerous studies to be more

> anti

> inflammatory than cortical steroids. Start low and work your way up until

> you get desired effect. If it is pain from calcium deposits this may have

> limited effect.

>

>

> Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories:

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In a message dated 12/20/2004 8:17:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

amanda_bueno@... writes:

> Hi , they took x-rays the other night to see what is causing the

> problem. The doctor then told me that calcium deposits are causing the pain

based

> on the results.

>

If you have GB issues I would not rule out the muscle referral idea. I had

about 18 billion acupuncture treatments for the pain I had along with several

other modalities -- rolfing, etc, all to no avail. Then GB issues and I changed

my lifestyle and some habits and guess what the arm/shoulder doesnt hurt

anymore. Makes me wonder...

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thanks Dave, very helpful!

Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: " Bueno " <amanda_bueno@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:09 PM

Subject: Re: need a little help

> Hi Dave, this is what the doctor told me after viewing my x-ray the other

> night. I had to go to the ER since I was almost passing out due to pain!!

> so turmeric works but NOT if it is caused by calcium deposits?

It isn't specifically dissolving to calcium deposits (even though closely

related to ginger). But the anti inflammatory effect will help dramatically

with the swelling and irritation from the calcium deposits. Turmeric is

approx. 7% curcuminoids and the extract is up to 95%. pick up the extract

and pound the stuff. It may give you a lot of relief very quick.

ginder juice, what does it do since you said it does not dissolve calcium?

is ginger juice made by brewing fresh ginger in boiling water?

ginger juice is an old Ayurvedic remedy for disolving calcium deposits. Not

ginger tea unfortunately but juicing fresh ginger in large quantities. Like

I said, very hot (you can mix it with something cooling like celery juice)

and takes a long time to dissolve deposits (those deposits took a lot longer

to form). There are a lot of other things that would be potentially helpful

with the calcium deposits too. In the view of natural healing it is

basically a toxicity issue. An energetically cold dry condition.

>

> Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

> Dave

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Bueno " <amanda_bueno@...>

> <gallstones >

> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:10 AM

> Subject: need a little help

>

>

> > hello,

> >

> > i am in excruciating pain, i can't move my left arm due to swelling of

> > shoulder joint caused by calcium deposits. any herb and supplement for

> > pain and inflammation and for dissolving the calcium deposits?

> >

> Are you sure it is from calcium deposits? If so and this takes a while

> (months), ginger juice. Several ounces a day. Very hot, will heat you

> up.

> If you are already a hot constitution it is going to whack your other hot

> symptoms out even farther. This will be positive no matter what but will

> not dissolve the calcium; turmeric or curcumin (turmeric) extract. The

> curcuminoids in turmeric have been shown in numerous studies to be more

> anti

> inflammatory than cortical steroids. Start low and work your way up until

> you get desired effect. If it is pain from calcium deposits this may have

> limited effect.

>

>

> Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories:

> http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4

> http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80

> http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100

> http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112

>

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>

> Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi , they took x-rays the other night to see what is causing the problem.

The doctor then told me that calcium deposits are causing the pain based on the

results.

mackarmstr@... wrote:

In a message dated 12/20/2004 3:13:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

amanda_bueno@... writes:

> can't move my arm up or down or sideways, can't even cook and wash dishes.

> the pain is horrible. have you tried this method yourself

:

Why do you think its calcium deposits? Second question : do you have GB

trouble? There is a muscle group in the deltoid group that refers from the GB.

When I was the most GB acute I felt like I have been shot or had an arrow in

that

arm. Is it possible it is your GB and not calcium deposits?

Just a thought, (Atlanta)

[Guest guest]

>>...any herb and supplement for pain and inflammation<<<

Have you tried White Willow? It will help with the pain and inflammation at

least.

Blessings

Mama.

[Guest guest]

No. Where can I find White Willow for this purpose?

Janne <janne@...> wrote:>>...any herb and supplement for pain and

inflammation<<<

Have you tried White Willow? It will help with the pain and inflammation at

least.

Blessings

Mama.