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Proteus mirabilis & lack of beneficial bacteria

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 11:49 PM

Hi, Bee.

Just got my stool results which showed No beneficial bacteria for
Lactobacillus species, Escherichia coli, & Bifidobacerium. I was
dissapointed since I've been taking a high quality probiotic for 4
1/2 months. (Custom Probiotics CP1: Lactobacilli/Bifidobaceria 50
Billion Microorganisms, L. acidophilus, L. rhamnosus, L. plantarum,
B. lactis, B. bifidum)

Test also showed high count of Proteus mirabilis, which the lab
company recommended a number of prescription antibiotics and natural
agents that the Proteus mirabilis would be susceptible to. The
natural agents that would work best on the pathogenic bacteria were
Plant Tannins and Uva-Ursi. Berberine and Oregano would be a little
less effective, according to the report.

So, my questions are:
Would nystatin be keeping the probiotics from implanting? What
about coconut oil, Pau D'Arco tea, garlic and other natural
antifungals - do they keep the probiotics from implanting?

I have never heard of Plant Tannins. Do I just go to the health
food store and ask for a bottle of plant tannins? Does Uva-Ursi
come in a bottle too?

Sorry for my ignorance. And thanks for putting up with me!


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Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:43 AM


>
> Hi, Bee.
>
> Just got my stool results which showed No beneficial bacteria for
> Lactobacillus species, Escherichia coli, & Bifidobacerium. I was
> dissapointed since I've been taking a high quality probiotic for 4
> 1/2 months. (Custom Probiotics CP1: Lactobacilli/Bifidobaceria 50
> Billion Microorganisms, L. acidophilus, L. rhamnosus, L. plantarum,
> B. lactis, B. bifidum)

+++Hi . When you have high numbers of candida it isn't possible
to implant good bacteria in your gut, so that's why I recommend
taking probiotics as the last step of my program. Also when you take
probiotics by mouth, they aren't necessarily going to end up in the
large colon, which is why I recommend doing alternating antifungal
and probiotic enemas:
http://www.healingna...cles/enema3.php

> Test also showed high count of Proteus mirabilis, which the lab
> company recommended a number of prescription antibiotics and
natural agents that the Proteus mirabilis would be susceptible to.
The natural agents that would work best on the pathogenic bacteria
were Plant Tannins and Uva-Ursi. Berberine and Oregano would be a
little less effective, according to the report.

+++Before I reply: Are you having diarrhea or constipation or other
evidence your food isn't digesting properly?

> So, my questions are:
> Would nystatin be keeping the probiotics from implanting? What
> about coconut oil, Pau D'Arco tea, garlic and other natural
> antifungals - do they keep the probiotics from implanting?

+++No, none of those keep probiotics from implanting, candida does,
along with its toxins and other kinds of toxins.
>
> I have never heard of Plant Tannins. Do I just go to the health
> food store and ask for a bottle of plant tannins? Does Uva-Ursi
> come in a bottle too?

+++Tannins are found in tea and other plant foods. I don't suggest
you do anything until after you reply, i.e. about having digestive
symptoms in my question above - please describe them.

Bee



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