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Hi Jasmin,

I wonder, are you making Kefir, or just asking about your milk?

If there were no Kefir grains or cultures involved and it was pasteurised

milk to begin with then it's spoiled, and likely smells pretty gross, I

would'nt taste that, eww.

*Raw* milk, on the other hand, " sours " or " clabbers " and is usually still ok

for consumption, kind of cheesy I guess, but sour...

If there *were *Kefir grains or cultures involved, then you probably have

Kefir no matter what kind of milk you started with. To the untrained

nose,eye and mouth, it is similar to soured or spoiled milk..but is really a

turbocharged, super-probiotic drinkable yogurt of sorts..

Beau

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[Jasmin] What does sour milk taste like? Is it really cheesy? Or is my milk just

bad?

[Mike] In a broad sense, sour milk includes yogurt, kefir, cultured

buttermilk, clabber, etc and also spoiled milk. They are all different

fermentations of milk, which always results in some degree of

sourness. In a narrow sense, sour milk would be naturally soured milk,

meaning that it fermented after being left to its own devices long

enough. In the case of naturally soured milk, if the milk was

unpasteurized, the result (called " clabber " as Beau points out in his

post) is virtually always good and healthy ( " fabulous " might be a

better word), tasting similar to yogurt but with a flavor and texture

that varies dramatically depending on the environmental conditions for

both the lactator (e.g. cow) and your kitchen. Sometimes it will be

delicious and sometimes it will be just okay, but it will always have

a thick texture like yogurt or cultured buttermilk and separate into

curds and whey. " cheesy " could refer to any kind of cheese, and so

anything with curds would be cheesy in some way, ranging from fresh

mild cheese (e.g. paneer) to stronger cheeses. So clabber is mostly

definitely cheesy. On the other hand, if the milk was pasteurized, the

result is likely to contain unwanted bacteria and have a clearly bad

smell and taste.

It's almost impossible to get bad milk unless it was pasteurized.

Mike

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Beau Barrett <Beau.Barrett@...> wrote: Hi Jasmin,

I wonder, are you making Kefir, or just asking about your milk?

Well...both. My kefir went bad on me quite a few times so I thought. But then

one morning I had coffee with the milk (which was raw by the way) and it had the

exact same taste. A sharp cheese taste...I did not taste the milk alone but in

my coffee it didn't taste sour. In the kefir it was sour but that's what kefir

does. So like a dummy I've been throwing it out because I hate the taste. Then

the last few times I've been making muffins and pancakes with it. Next time I

will make a cream cheese dip or something. But I wanted to make sure this is

sour milk and I'm not eating something gross.

Thank you for your response.

Jasmin

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Thank you Mike. I think I'll rest assured I'm not going to die from it now. :)

Jasmin

Anton <michaelantonparker@...> wrote: So clabber is

mostly

definitely cheesy. On the other hand, if the milk was pasteurized, the

result is likely to contain unwanted bacteria and have a clearly bad

smell and taste.

It's almost impossible to get bad milk unless it was pasteurized.

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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Okay, die from what? I buy pasterized milk right now. Audrey

Harpazo Hope <harpazo_hope@...> wrote: Thank you Mike. I think I'll rest

assured I'm not going to die from it now. :)

Jasmin

Anton <michaelantonparker@...> wrote: So clabber is

mostly

definitely cheesy. On the other hand, if the milk was pasteurized, the

result is likely to contain unwanted bacteria and have a clearly bad

smell and taste.

It's almost impossible to get bad milk unless it was pasteurized.

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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My Kefir grains have been going crazy and it is just the first week having them!

They eat alot, been using the 2 cups as adviced, now at end of the first week I

increased to 3 cups of milk since the instructions said the grains would probly

be increased by 50%, maybe I should have sooner!?

I did a few sourdough starters, one with buttermilk. I read as long as it was

cultured milk was much better.

Alas my poor little Kombucha, I delayed and hopefully did not mess it up, by

changing it's solution three or so times...got confused by reading more then one

person's opinions. I think it will be okay just delayed. It seems happier now.

Oh, I will write more later, my water kefir grains just came in the mail.

Signed , Audrey

Harpazo Hope <harpazo_hope@...> wrote:

Beau Barrett <Beau.Barrett@...> wrote: Hi Jasmin,

I wonder, are you making Kefir, or just asking about your milk?

Well...both. My kefir went bad on me quite a few times so I thought. But then

one morning I had coffee with the milk (which was raw by the way) and it had the

exact same taste. A sharp cheese taste...I did not taste the milk alone but in

my coffee it didn't taste sour. In the kefir it was sour but that's what kefir

does. So like a dummy I've been throwing it out because I hate the taste. Then

the last few times I've been making muffins and pancakes with it. Next time I

will make a cream cheese dip or something. But I wanted to make sure this is

sour milk and I'm not eating something gross.

Thank you for your response.

Jasmin

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" Mrs.Audrey J. Chinn " <Onexpresso@...> wrote: Okay, die from what? I

buy pasterized milk right now. Audrey

Harpazo Hope <harpazo_hope@...> wrote: Thank you Mike. I think I'll rest

assured I'm not going to die from it now. :)

Jasmin

I'm not sure if you are asking me but I was just being silly. I was worried my

sour milk was rotten milk and would make me sick. Now I'm not so worried.

Jasmin

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I've always wondered about that detail, when reading about clabbering , souring

milk.....

Thank you, Audrey

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If there were no Kefir grains or cultures involved and it was pasteurised

milk to begin with then it's spoiled, and likely smells pretty gross, I

would'nt taste that, eww.

*Raw* milk, on the other hand, " sours " or " clabbers " and is usually still ok

for consumption, kind of cheesy I guess, but sour...

If there *were *Kefir grains or cultures involved, then you probably have

> Jasmin

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Hi Pat,

I sometimes have raw milk that goes sour too, but I never throw it

away. While it is not good for making kefir, it is good for baking

with. I created a section in my recipe file just for recipes using

sour milk, and you can make all kinds of yummy baked items, such as

banana bread, quick cinnamon sweet bread, cakes, cookies and more.

I have a wonderful cheese soup recipe that I've used with some of my

kefir that was in the process of balancing out.

Raw milk never really goes bad, from what I understand...it just is

always in the process of " becoming. " Of course, at some point if

you haven't used it or fermented it properly, you may want to throw

it away, but I rarely throw away milk. I have always been able to

use it somehow in various recipes.

Trish

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> I have a question that I hope someone can answer. When my raw milk

> naturally sours it smells different than my homemade kefir. Yet I

am

> told that naturally soured milk is kefir. Is there a reason for

this

> difference in smell and if I go ahead and make kefir out of this

> naturally soured milk does it lose its smell and then become like

> kefir? My husband insists that we throw away naturally soured milk

> because of the smell.

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