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Hi Tamara,

I appreciate your concern. I do not have Bruxism. However, I am

well aware of the damage that can be done due to it, as one of my

brothers does Brux his teeth, and his once beautiful teeth now look

the size of a child's, and the tops of them are worn off. He wears

the nightguard as you mentioned.

Actually, I'm not even sure how this happened. I did have a wisdom

tooth removed back in July, I believe. And I know that having to

open the jaw like that can sometimes knock it out, but it seems I

began having problems just prior to that.

However, thankfully, I see the dentist Oct. 12. I was told that

after I get the wisdom tooth removed, the tooth in front of it needed

some attention. Once all of the dental work is done, I will schedule

an appt. with the chiropractor just prior to a dental appt. meant

exclusively to work on my bite. It only makes good sense to have my

jaw, neck, back, etc. to all be in alignment before he works on my

bite. And I realize that it most likely will take 2 or 3 appts to

get the bite corrected, so that the steak that has been dancing

around me, making fun of me, won't get to tease me too much longer!

Soon it will dance in my tummy...lol " Maestro...warm up the

Orchestra! "

jemmi *_*

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Jemmi,

I saw that you are seeing a chiropractor and dentist at the same time

for your jaw. One this to ask is whether you need a night guard to

prevent you from grinding your teeth at night.

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Sorry to sound like a broken record but Magnesium again could be helpful.

Magnesium is very underused and underappreciated

Tamara <tamara@...> wrote:

>Gemmi,

I saw that you are seeing a chiropractor and dentist at the same time for

you jaw. One this to ask is whether you need a night guard to prevent you

from grinding your teeth at night. If needed this will prevent your jaw

from going out so much. I wear my night guard religiously. Before I went

to the dentist for the fitting, I had my jaw adjusted. This is the best my

jaw has felt in a long time.

You are right in keeping with the soft foods as chewing will aggravate your

jaw.

Tamara

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kathy matthews wrote:

> Sorry to sound like a broken record but Magnesium again could be helpful.

> Magnesium is very underused and underappreciated

Have to agree :-)

would add in B6 and B5 as well.

.....Irene.

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

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Definitely

Irene de Villiers <furryboots@...> wrote:

kathy matthews wrote:

> Sorry to sound like a broken record but Magnesium again could be helpful.

> Magnesium is very underused and underappreciated

Have to agree :-)

would add in B6 and B5 as well.

.....Irene.

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

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I think what you are saying is absolutely valid, especially for women.

I spoke with a natural doctor, Jack Ritchason, and he said that women

require twice as much magnesium as calcium, particularly those who are

still having their periods. I know I don't know enough about

Magnesium, so I appreciate your passing on this info.

jemmi *_*

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Sorry to sound like a broken record but Magnesium again could be

helpful. Magnesium is very underused and underappreciated.

Tamara

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I have only been a member of this wonderful group for about two months, so I may have missed any mention of flatback- related jaw problems. I had an appointment today with my brother-in-law who is also my dentist. I have been having what I thought was a flareup of my TMJ--sore jaws and sore teeth. My teeth don't feel like they fit together properly as before and they have been sliding--I guess out of alignment. The first thing he noticed about me today was that my head was cocked slightly to the right which confirmed what he had surmised from what my sister had told him the other day about my flatback. He said that my jaw is now trying to compensate for the muscles pulling from my neck being out of alignment.

I had my scoliosis surgery in 1974 when I was 27 and was fused from T-7 to L-4. Everything was great for about 27 years, but then I started having difficulties above and below the fusion. Same story as many of you--left hip replacement last May even. Now I'm looking at probable revision surgery--we'll see after my appointment with Dr. LaGrone next Thursday.

I wondered if anyone else had any insights in this area. My scoliosis has affected my entire life. Seems every physical problem I've ever had was based on my unstable spine. I'm thankful that Alpine Price enrolled her daughter in my school a couple of years ago and noticed my flatback before I even realized I had it!

Tyra

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Tyra,

You are right...this whole scoli business is a case of every aspect of our lives

being changed by it. I wonder if you have had a chance to peruse the files are

of the group? If you get a chance go to the folder " Writings of Mina " .

The first paper in there is called " Flatback Syndrome " ...and about 1/2 way

through there she speaks of jaw related problems. Ms Mina is just a lay patient

like ourselves...but I believe she was a good researcher and if would probably

be possible to verify that your jaw issues may well be related to your spine and

neck alignment. I bet DrLaGrone will have some thoughts on that topic.

It occurs to me that often a number of conditions occur with scoliosis, and

several conditions are related to lax ligaments and other soft tissues...so I

wonder if when they finally figure this disease out they are going to find that

its all related. In any event...most of us are in for a life that has spine, hip

and kneee challenges...so its a good thing to stay ahead of that curve.

I look forward to hearing what DrLaGrone has to say. You are in capable hands

there for sure.

Take Care, Cam

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Tyra and all,

Wishing you all a very happy Thanksgiving, here I'm up to get the Turkey on for a early meal, and reading posts. I guess with all that has gone on this past year( the awful economy, layoffs etc) we all have to look at the blessings in our lives, and being here with my scoli friends has been for me, a cherished gift. Thank you one and all, for being a support to one another, through surgery and daily life living in these bodies we have been given. You all are amazing!

Tyra, what Cam said, reminds me of the song we all learned to remember parts of the body, " the backbone connected to the hip bone, the hip bone connected to the leg bone", and on and on. Throw one part of the body really out of whack, and the rest will suffer.

While I'm careful not to #$% & *, to others about related aches and pains, I know many of my small issues are in the fullness of a picture is related to my spine, or the overworking of areas above and below my fusions. While revision did vastly improve everything, there are some areas I'm still careful with. I'm fused T1 to the sacrum, and nearly 8 years out, I do notice, that I have to be careful not to overtax my neck, keep computer time to an hour at a time, scrapbooking too, and I do lay down about twice during the day, for about 15 minutes to rest my neck. I have no pain , it just gets tired and a little sore. My knees I'm very careful with, preventative mostly, as I'd be lost if troubles cropped up there. Currently my shoulders are really good, PT right after revision, did the trick for them, and I still do the exercises from time to time if I feel they need it. My elbows are still a challenge, can ache when I lay down, mostly this is from overuse of my grabbers, if I tone the use down they respond with improvement.

Tyra, the gift revision gave me is a body vastly better aligned, perfect no, but vastly better. I'm quite sure if I hadn't had my surgeries in 2000 and 2002, at this point I'd no longer be walking much, I'd either be using a walker or a wheelchair. So in the the big picture, I'm terrific, and have to always say that. Is there crap that is bothersome, yes, but in the big picture I'm great.

We will always have scoliosis, fused spines, and live in a subprime body, but I'm ever thankful to my surgeon, Dr. Anant Kumar, who worked along with me, to get this crooked girl less crooked, and get me living without the awful pain. I know I'm lucky, and it's never lost on me, I lived far too long in flatback mode, so this gift , and my thankfulness for it is ever present. I'm also so glad to be among all of you, to never really have to explain myself, you all get it, and sometimes it's plain good to be among those where it's just EASY.

Off to get the 20 pound bird in, Niles is up, low ovens and weight is still a challenge, so he will be putting it in, life with a fused spine!

Happy Thanksgiving all!

Colorado Springs

[ ] Jaw problems

I have only been a member of this wonderful group for about two months, so I may have missed any mention of flatback- related jaw problems. I had an appointment today with my brother-in-law who is also my dentist. I have been having what I thought was a flareup of my TMJ--sore jaws and sore teeth. My teeth don't feel like they fit together properly as before and they have been sliding--I guess out of alignment. The first thing he noticed about me today was that my head was cocked slightly to the right which confirmed what he had surmised from what my sister had told him the other day about my flatback. He said that my jaw is now trying to compensate for the muscles pulling from my neck being out of alignment.

I had my scoliosis surgery in 1974 when I was 27 and was fused from T-7 to L-4. Everything was great for about 27 years, but then I started having difficulties above and below the fusion. Same story as many of you--left hip replacement last May even. Now I'm looking at probable revision surgery--we'll see after my appointment with Dr. LaGrone next Thursday.

I wondered if anyone else had any insights in this area. My scoliosis has affected my entire life. Seems every physical problem I've ever had was based on my unstable spine. I'm thankful that Alpine Price enrolled her daughter in my school a couple of years ago and noticed my flatback before I even realized I had it!

Tyra

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Hi Bonnie,

Even though I have not yet had revision surgery, I have to agree with the theory that our spinal issues have impacted our other joints significantly. My knees have bothered me for quite some time, although I have "remission" periods where they don't bother me much at all. My shoulders are painful and my hips are as well. My right hip, where the bone was taken from has very visible arthritis on x-rays with very little showing in my left hip. My right hip hurts far more than my left. I really feel that having ones spine impacted in the way ours are really makes one off balance as well as preventing us from using our backs when we lift, carry, or do most physical activities. When my youngest child was an infant, my shoulders, elbows and forearms became so sore and inflamed, I could hardly pick him up - especially out of his crib. I had to do it in the most odd way to try and minimize the pain.

Anyway, I just wanted to add my two cents to the discussion!

Jeanne

[ ] Re: Jaw problems

Hi Cam,A life of spine, hip and knee problems. Unfortunately, I think we need to add Sacroiliac Joint, and possibly even shoulder problems. Too many of us have had shoulder issues, usually rotator cuff. I'm thinking it's more than just a coincidence, though I don't know of any studies done on the effects of scoliosis on shoulders. When I had my rotator cuff surgery, I questioned my surgeon about the connection. his response was, "well, it's all connected".Bonnie

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