eco thyro

[Guest guest]

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for your response and the name of the other company...So if 1/4 of a

grain is what they " claim " to be in their thyroid, how much of that product

would I need for a replacemet dose?

Thanks! And again, thanks!

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

,

You wrote:

>

> Thanks for your response. So, are you saying that it could contain .05

> mg per dose, and if this is the case, could I theoretically take more

> than that and get some T4 an T3?

Sorry, evidently the limit is more like 1/4 grain of dry tissue, which

contains less than 10 mcg of T4. Our local compounding pharmacy may have

cut that in half to give us 0.005 mg or 5 mcg of T4.

> ... Does that mean that the other glandulars in the meds don't amount to much

as well?

Yes. If you get it without a prescription, it can't (legally) have more

than a trace of the active elements.

I did find another supplier, also at 1/4 grain per daily dose:

http://www.life-enhancement.com/product.asp?ID=206

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I found something called " Raw Thyroid " in a local health food store. The

label clearly states that the thyroxine has been taken out. If that's so,

then exactly what is it you're getting in that little capsule? Alfalfa?

You wrote:

Really? Never saw anything remotely close in any health fodd stores and that

is the only place I shop and I used to work in one. Yes, I buy mine straight

from PHP, never Dr. Dane. Yes, the only reason I agreed to take the eco was

because the gland is from New Zealand. I am not comfortable with the health

of our animals here in the US.

Chuck B <gumboyayacox (DOT) <mailto:gumboyaya%40cox.net> net> wrote: ,

You wrote:

>

> I have never ordered eco thro from Dr. Dane. I have had an account for

> ovr 8 years with PHP, the company itself. Dr. Dane sells eco for $60 I

> believe...insane. ...

That's interesting. Dr. Dane claims it is a " proprietary " mixture finely

tuned for her theories about blood types. She makes it sound as if she

manufactures it herself. Her price was $42 for a 60 day supply. PHP in

Pittsburgh says they get the glands from New Zealand. I suspect they are

an importer of the dessicated product; that the real OEM is outside the

U.S. You can buy similar dessicated and deactivated thyroid glands in

most health stores. I wonder if they just change labels.

Chuck

jessica stanziale

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

>

> What are the two companies? Also, what about that company in Canada that

> will make a batch too?

As I recall the two that claim to leave the natural potency in place

were Nutri-Meds and Life-Enhancement, although they are at 1/4 grain per

dose.

Erfa Canada was originally a branch of Pfizer, so I suspect theirs is a

prescription type medication, competing with Armour. Doses are

advertised in multiples of 30 mg (0.5 grains), which is roughly the same

as the increments of potency for the synthetics. They mentioned an

interruption in production during the sale, which means they now have a

backlog in orders.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

>

> Thanks for your response and the name of the other company...So if 1/4

> of a grain is what they " claim " to be in their thyroid, how much of that

> product would I need for a replacemet dose?

At least 10 (180 mg or 3 grains). With T4, women seem to need about

double what men need. The Armour folks don't seem to discriminate,

perhaps due to the potency of the T3.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Edie,

You wrote:

>

> I found something called " Raw Thyroid " in a local health food store. The

> label clearly states that the thyroxine has been taken out. If that's so,

> then exactly what is it you're getting in that little capsule? Alfalfa?

>

Even if it is not on the label, raw thyroid sold without a prescription

must be either devoid of T4/T3 or in a very small quantity.

All you get from it is meat protein and a tiny quantity of the nutrients

that your thyroid uses to function. That's why I suggested you make a

nice stew out of sweetbreads (animal organs) and get a lot more of the

same thing for a much lower price.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

There is no way to be certain that eco thyro has anything to do with

your health; as a matter of fact what evidence we have seems to suggest

otherwise. As for why you are sick or well, we well know that sometimes

even the best doctors and scientists cannot tell you that; and I am neither.

When double blind medical studies are done using newly discovered [very

effective] drugs it is not too unusual for a large number of people to

show tremendous improvement when given a placebo, which is a fake

medical pill. Sometimes 25% or 30% or even more fall into this category.

Given the misery some here have with hypo it is certainly good news if

you do not have it; the bad news is that you don't know exactly what it

is that you _do_ have. OTOH, I show elevated TSH which is controlled by

Synthroid, yet I have none of the symptoms. What is my problem? I

really haven't a clue. Well, that's not exactly true; because elevated

TSH controlled by Synthroid is probably multiple clues; but the absence

of symptoms seems to contradict the usual conclusion.

It is quite possible that you would start feeling miserable if you

stopped taking eco. However, it would not be because you stopped

getting T3 or T4 from eco, because it most likely has no more than trace

quantities.

Luck,

4d.

Re: eco thyro

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massageme429 <massageme429>

Mon Aug 7, 2006 7:21 pm (PST)

So how is it that I am finaly well and it is from eco thyro. Does

that mean I am not really hypo and that all my symptoms and

bloodwork are an illusion? Not being rude, just confused! Is it that

my case is just not severe enough so I am getting by on something

that doesn't contain the chemicals necessary for hypothyroid? If so

then I consider this great news!

<res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

Chuck is telling you that eco thyro legally cannot contain the

chemicals

necessary for hypothyroid treatment; and that the referenced web site

tells you exactly that.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Chuck!

;c)

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

,

You wrote:

>

> What are the two companies? Also, what about that company in Canada that

> will make a batch too?

As I recall the two that claim to leave the natural potency in place

were Nutri-Meds and Life-Enhancement, although they are at 1/4 grain per

dose.

Erfa Canada was originally a branch of Pfizer, so I suspect theirs is a

prescription type medication, competing with Armour. Doses are

advertised in multiples of 30 mg (0.5 grains), which is roughly the same

as the increments of potency for the synthetics. They mentioned an

interruption in production during the sale, which means they now have a

backlog in orders.

Chuck