Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 > > Bee, > > My doctor has suggested that I have a bone scan done to check my bone density. Do I need to be concerned about this procedure? How will or could it affect the yeast? > ==> Jill, I wouldn't recommend getting a bone scan - they expose your body to radiation. Bone scans just make a lot of money and they give the doctors more patients. Plus the fact that they are highly inaccurate. If you have bone loss you will know it; but if you follow my program you will not have bone loss. To read more about Women's Health Issues see the Folder in our files, and also see: http://www.westonaprice.org/women/index.html Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Bee, I read through all of the information I could find in the files and went to the website you suggested - thank you. But I still have a couple of questions. How would I know if I have bone loss? You said that I would know. I'm not sure how I would know. What do I look for? Would a bone scan make my yeast grow or is it more of a concern about radiation exposure/cancer? How do I tell my doctor without making an enemy? I expressed concern about the radiation and it was downplayed and the comments I got back made to feel stupid - they sure don't like you to question anything. The nurse asked if I'd ever flown on an airplane and that I would have less radiation exposure through the bone scan. I'm concerned that refusal is not going to be accepted and I'm looking for suggestions on how to make it go a little more smoothly. I'm more of a direct person which is why they probably didn't like the questions I had when it was first suggested. I think I'm making progress and I don't want anything to set me back. I know they really want me to have this scan - that's obvious by the comments they have made. And now is the best time because I've met my deductible for the year. However, I don't want it to be a mistake. Thank you, Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 > > Bee, I read through all of the information I could find in the files and went to the website you suggested - thank you. But I still have a couple of questions. > > How would I know if I have bone loss? You said that I would know. I'm not sure how I would know. What do I look for? ==>You would know because you would have pains which are bone deep and they would kinda burn; I have osteoporosis myself and when I do not get enough cal/mag and/or red meat I get slight symptoms which warn me; but my problem is mainly caused by not having a thyroid. > > Would a bone scan make my yeast grow or is it more of a concern about radiation exposure/cancer? ==>Radiation is very toxic and is known to cause cancer. It may increase yeast activity because it depresses the immune system as well. The medicos put people throught many tests " just to make sure " even when there is no clinical evidence a person has a particular problem - which creates a " fear factor " I believe is unnecessary. If something ain't broken don't fix it, and certainly don't expose yourself to unnecessary radiation unless it's critical for saving your life. ==>My program provides all the nutrients necessary to build healthy teeth and bones; in fact one of my moderators, Shirley, is amazed at how her tooth enamel re-formed - it's a real miracle. I think you could find her message if you search our archives. > > How do I tell my doctor without making an enemy? I expressed concern about the radiation and it was downplayed and the comments I got back made to feel stupid - they sure don't like you to question anything. The nurse asked if I'd ever flown on an airplane and that I would have less radiation exposure through the bone scan. I'm concerned that refusal is not going to be accepted and I'm looking for suggestions on how to make it go a little more smoothly. I'm more of a direct person which is why they probably didn't like the questions I had when it was first suggested. ==>Ask your doctor to explain what " clinical symptoms " you have that make him believe you have osteoporosis. If his analysis doesn't include you having burning or pains his diagnosis is invalid and if his only reasons are " age " or " family history " they are also is invalid. Bone scans cannot predict the future, particularly when you are on my program which corrects even inherited DNA, should anyone in your family have had osteoporosis. ==>A bone scan involves much more radiation than flying on a plane. I haven't got a reference but if you search on the Internet for bone scan+radiation levels you might find some comparisons that are valid. > > I think I'm making progress and I don't want anything to set me > back. I know they really want me to have this scan - that's obvious by the comments they have made. And now is the best time because I've met my deductible for the year. However, I don't want it to be a mistake. ==>Jill, do not let them pressure you. You've got lots of time to make an informed decision. Your bones are not going to crumble overnight my dear. It is your health and your choice and they shouldn't be pressuring you. If possible, just ignore them, or say you are getting a second opinion to put them off. I hope that helps. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 There is a difference between a " bone scan " which uses radiation and a " bone density scan " that doesn't . In my experience the " bone density scan " is done with just X-ray and usually scans your wrist, hip and spine. This is the test that gives you your T-score. I would recommend having one of these so you know for sure what your density is. Then later you can measure to see if your are improving or losing BD. The " bone scan " I got was used for bone healing. I broke my hip and the doc wanted to see if the healing was complete. Pretty much a useless test as far as I am concerned. But it gave him the go ahead to take out the screws that were rubbing as I walked. Does this help? I haven't seen the whole thread so pardon if I missed something. Lee [ ] Re: Bone Scan Concern Bee, I read through all of the information I could find in the files and went to the website you suggested - thank you. But I still have a couple of questions. How would I know if I have bone loss? You said that I would know. I'm not sure how I would know. What do I look for? Would a bone scan make my yeast grow or is it more of a concern about radiation exposure/cancer? How do I tell my doctor without making an enemy? I expressed concern about the radiation and it was downplayed and the comments I got back made to feel stupid - they sure don't like you to question anything. The nurse asked if I'd ever flown on an airplane and that I would have less radiation exposure through the bone scan. I'm concerned that refusal is not going to be accepted and I'm looking for suggestions on how to make it go a little more smoothly. I'm more of a direct person which is why they probably didn't like the questions I had when it was first suggested. I think I'm making progress and I don't want anything to set me back. I know they really want me to have this scan - that's obvious by the comments they have made. And now is the best time because I've met my deductible for the year. However, I don't want it to be a mistake. Thank you, Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks so much Bee! Yes, I'm only 32 years old. Although my grandmother on my dad's side had osteoperosis really bad, the reason they want me to get it is because I have been on depo-provera for 7 years. Suddenly, depo has a " black box " warning and although the bone scan is not required, it's " strongly encouraged " . I plenty of muscle soreness, but no bone pain. I want to get off the depo, but I have to make sure I have my birth control covered first. My choice will be to have tubal ligation, but I don't want surgery until I am confident the yeast is gone. I don't want to be accidently be given antibiotics or an IV full of sugar water. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think a hormonal flux could also cause the yeast to go crazy too. I want to keep things as even as I can until it's gone. Any other thoughts you have are more than welcome. Thanks. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 > > Thanks so much Bee! Yes, I'm only 32 years old. Although my grandmother on my dad's side had osteoperosis really bad, the reason they want me to get it is because I have been on depo-provera for 7 years. Suddenly, depo has a " black box " warning and although the bone scan is not required, it's " strongly encouraged " . I plenty of muscle soreness, but no bone pain. > > I want to get off the depo, but I have to make sure I have my birth control covered first. My choice will be to have tubal ligation, but I don't want surgery until I am confident the yeast is gone. I don't want to be accidently be given antibiotics or an IV full of sugar water. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think a hormonal flux could also cause the yeast to go crazy too. I want to keep things as even as I can until it's gone. Any other thoughts you have are more than welcome. Thanks. ==>Hi Jill. There has been a lot of discussion about effective birth control, other than pills - try searching our message archives. Have you considered using non-drug methods? ==>Your muscle soreness is candida toxins. Yeast also causes hormones to go crazy because it makes all of the body's cells go rigid so it interferes with hormone production and also with hormones getting into the cells where they are needed. ==>What I suggest is that you stay on the program for 6 months and then decide whether you should have a bone scan. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 > > There is a difference between a " bone scan " which uses radiation and a " bone density scan " that doesn't . > > In my experience the " bone density scan " is done with just X-ray and usually scans your wrist, hip and spine. This is the test that gives you your T-score. I would recommend having one of these so you know for sure what your density is. Then later you can measure to see if your are improving or losing BD. ==>X-rays are radiation as well, but yes some scans are done only on certain parts of the body to minimize exposure, instead of doing the entire spine, hips, etc. Cheers, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Yes, after doing a little more research, it is the bone density test - DXA. They do not inject the radioactive isotopes for the test they want me to take. And you're right, it's hip, spine, and I think they mentioned heel. Did it affect your candida? I'm just so afraid to set myself back. Would this one be okay Bee or is your advice to still avoid it? My appointment is next week... Jill > > There is a difference between a " bone scan " which uses radiation and a " bone density scan " that doesn't . > > In my experience the " bone density scan " is done with just X-ray and usually scans your wrist, hip and spine. This is the test that gives you your T-score. I would recommend having one of these so you know for sure what your density is. Then later you can measure to see if your are improving or losing BD. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 > > Yes, after doing a little more research, it is the bone density test - DXA. They do not inject the radioactive isotopes for the test they want me to take. And you're right, it's hip, spine, and I think they mentioned heel. > > Did it affect your candida? I'm just so afraid to set myself back. ==>It will affect your candida Jill. > > Would this one be okay Bee or is your advice to still avoid it? My appointment is next week... ==>I cannot make that decision for you my dear. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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