a few notes on vinegars -avoid 'grape must', its mold!

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hi all

a few notes:

balsamic vinegar is best avoided in the strict beginning phases of

candida diet, it is naturally sweeter than other vinegars which means

it is most likely higher in residual sugars.

definitely avoid anything containing " grape must " . the " must " is a

white mold that coats the skin of wine grapes.

if you have not been taking any vinegar in your diet lately, and you

are interested to try it, start with raw unfiltered a.c.v. if you can

get it, and if not, then look for organic a.c.v., even if it is

clear, not cloudy like the raw kind. its your next best option.

for folks who get reactions from raw apple cider vinegar, it could be

a candida 'die off' reaction that you are experiencing: the same sort

of yucky feelings that people sometimes experience after eating lacto-

fermented vegetables - saurkraut, kim chee, rejuvelac, etc.

i wouldn't call it a necessary food, its truly a personal choice.

we know that for a lot of folks, this diet feels restrictive and

difficult to adhere to in the beginning. so we are happy to find an

occasional food to add to the " okay " list, and we (bee and myself, as

well as others in this group who have used it) do feel that raw

unfiltered apple cider vinegar is fine for most people who are

challenging candida overgrowth, and that it actually has beneficial

effects for some of us as well.

its a common topical treatment for candida-type symptoms such a

douching for vaginal yeast infection, or treating skin fungus with

apple cider vinegar.

i personally feel better when i take some a.c.v., and i did as well

when i followed the candida diet 2 1/2 years ago.

i have been back on the begininning phase of the candida diet for

over a month now, after a number of months living in italy and

getting sucked into the pizza, pasta & wine lifestyle - ouch, that

really did not agree with me!

i haven't been taking any antifungals or supplements, just doing the

good diet up to this point, including saurkrauts and kim chee, with

good results.

i have been having at least 1 tablespoon of a.c.v. each day for 5

days (after not having any form of vinegar for over a month) and i

woke up this morning with a rash similar to one that showed up during

a particularly stressful time in my life about 14-15 months ago.

for me, its not a negative reaction to the a.c.v., i think its a good

thing to see symptoms externalizing, because it shows me that my

insides must be getting stronger.

we all must do what we feel is right for ourself.

hope that helps ~

suz

[Guest guest]

hello,

I thought any kind of vinegar is a big no-no. It made me feel sick

when i tried it. Is this right?

>

> hi all

>

> a few notes:

>

> balsamic vinegar is best avoided in the strict beginning phases of

> candida diet, it is naturally sweeter than other vinegars which

means

> it is most likely higher in residual sugars.

>

> definitely avoid anything containing " grape must " . the " must " is a

> white mold that coats the skin of wine grapes.

>

> if you have not been taking any vinegar in your diet lately, and

you

> are interested to try it, start with raw unfiltered a.c.v. if you

can

> get it, and if not, then look for organic a.c.v., even if it is

> clear, not cloudy like the raw kind. its your next best option.

>

> for folks who get reactions from raw apple cider vinegar, it could

be

> a candida 'die off' reaction that you are experiencing: the same

sort

> of yucky feelings that people sometimes experience after eating

lacto-

> fermented vegetables - saurkraut, kim chee, rejuvelac, etc.

>

> i wouldn't call it a necessary food, its truly a personal choice.

>

> we know that for a lot of folks, this diet feels restrictive and

> difficult to adhere to in the beginning. so we are happy to find an

> occasional food to add to the " okay " list, and we (bee and myself,

as

> well as others in this group who have used it) do feel that raw

> unfiltered apple cider vinegar is fine for most people who are

> challenging candida overgrowth, and that it actually has beneficial

> effects for some of us as well.

>

> its a common topical treatment for candida-type symptoms such a

> douching for vaginal yeast infection, or treating skin fungus with

> apple cider vinegar.

>

> i personally feel better when i take some a.c.v., and i did as well

> when i followed the candida diet 2 1/2 years ago.

>

> i have been back on the begininning phase of the candida diet for

> over a month now, after a number of months living in italy and

> getting sucked into the pizza, pasta & wine lifestyle - ouch, that

> really did not agree with me!

>

> i haven't been taking any antifungals or supplements, just doing

the

> good diet up to this point, including saurkrauts and kim chee, with

> good results.

>

> i have been having at least 1 tablespoon of a.c.v. each day for 5

> days (after not having any form of vinegar for over a month) and i

> woke up this morning with a rash similar to one that showed up

during

> a particularly stressful time in my life about 14-15 months ago.

>

> for me, its not a negative reaction to the a.c.v., i think its a

good

> thing to see symptoms externalizing, because it shows me that my

> insides must be getting stronger.

>

> we all must do what we feel is right for ourself.

>

> hope that helps ~

>

> suz

>

[Guest guest]

julish123 wrote:

>hello,

>I thought any kind of vinegar is a big no-no. It made me feel sick

>when i tried it. Is this right?

>

>

If it makes you feel sick, that's all you need to know. I avoid it for

the same reason.

Aria

[Guest guest]

--- i devi <devi@...> wrote:

> If it makes you feel sick, that's all you need to

> know. I avoid it for

> the same reason.

Well not necessarily, some foods can cause healing

reactions that do the same thing. BUT, I believe

vinegar is a problem food and I stay away from it. I

do not believe it benefits candida sufferers.

I also stay away from butter (dairy) and lemon juice

(fruit). However, I think that people will get better

just doing the diet, even if butter, lemon juice, and

vinegar are added, but they should be used

infrequently just in case.

I'm hyper-sensitive and a purist and looking for the

best results I can get, so I don't mind being a bit

more restrictive and removing foods that could be

borderline, and instead sticking with tried and true

foods like garlic and coconut oil.

However for those who are just starting on the program

coming from a background of eating lots of refine

carbs, I don't think recommending super-strict

regimens is very user-friendly.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

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