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I totally agree with you. Another NO vote.

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De: SauceyKitty@... [mailto:SauceyKitty@...]

Enviado el: Jueves, 28 de Octubre de 1999 05:05 p.m.

Para: dwarfismonelist

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I agree with Betty and Helen! This is a public message board, so people

respond publicly. It seems to be working when senders request

responding privately. I don't see what the big fuss is..if you don't

want to read it, delete it.

I love this message board simply for the fact that you can see how

others respond to controversial topics!

Jenn

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I agree with Betty and Helen! This is a public message board, so people respond

publicly. It seems to be working when senders request responding privately. I

don't see what the big fuss is..if you don't want to read it, delete it.

I love this message board simply for the fact that you can see how others

respond to controversial topics!

Jenn

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Roughly translated thanks to

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DEAR SIGRID:

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR I COMPLETE EMAIL, IN WHICH YOU TALK ABOUT NOT TO

VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DANIEL LARRECHEA.

Nick Scalan

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From: DLarrechea@...

ESTIMADA SIGRID :

NO ENTIENDO TU ULTIMO E-MAIL, EN EL QUE TE REFIERES A NO VOTAR.

MUCHAS GRACIAS.

DANIEL LARRECHEA.

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I agree 100%, I'm not a WC person but fought for disability, only reason I was

able to get help while I was waiting for my disability to come thru was because

I have a daughter. I looked at the guy on the other side of the desk at the

welfare dept and said... I receive child support, the only thing I want from

this office is medicaid so I can get better and get back to work (not knowing

how bad my back really was at the time). He said the only reason I was approved

to get medical insurance was b/c I have a daughter. Now tell me that isnt .. to

be nice... screwed up!! Here I was, ordered off work by my doctor, wanting to

get better to go back to work, and if I hadn't had my daughter I would have

gotten no help from them. Makes no damn sense to me, the government does need

some major changes. To add to a previous post, I agree, the ones caught on tape

sky diving and bungee jumping are the ones that make us fight like hell for what

we deserve. I tried contacting the govener of Ohio when I was fighting for my

disability and I got no reply back. They don't give a shit, they get their

paychecks and attend their parties that our tax money (when we were able to

work) pay for.. I could go on but I don't want to sound like more of a biotch

than the govt has made me over the last 2 years... ok, ok, I was one before

that, but who wouldn't be the way this system is set up...

Wow that felt good and I wasn't mad to begin with LMAO Hope you all have a good

sleepful night, I'm on my second night of looking at no sleep but am used to

it... will fill ya in later on the bad news on my end... just a little insight

tho to put it as short as possible... my prescriptions for my pain pills

(Duragesic patch alone costs over 250 for a 15 day supply) are no longer covered

by medicaid. Why? Well, child support decided that the money my daughters dad

owes in arrears needed to be upped... so for that extra $30/mo they are sending,

I got cut off prescription ins. I'm trying to get them to not up it since it

wasn't court ordered, wish me luck that I get these ppl on this asap as I have

18 days left on the patches I have, not to mention very low on my neurontin and

percocet. Just when ya think things are gonna finally go right *WHAM bam no

thank you ma'am* you get screwed... not the way I wanted to get screwed, have

gotten screwed enough that way and I don't like it LOL

Anyhow, sorry guess that short story told it all, again, sleep well everyone and

take it easy :)

Connie

My two cents worth

> Hello all,

> I have been disabled now since 96'. I was always honest about how I

> got hurt, what I could or couldn't do, yet WC Dr's continued to tell

> me I was fine, there was nothing wrong with me. It took many years,

> ALOT of pain, and ALOT of pain meds, relaxers, even anti

> depressants, before one of my Dr's sent me to an othopedic spinal

> surgeon who found a mess in my C-spine, and even a rare spinal

> disease. I was honest and got screwed, and continue to get the same

> treatment. My disability pay was cut off without notice because they

> said I was fine to go to work, yet they did not send me to a Dr or

> do any looking into my case, they just cut me off, like I don't need

> to eat anyways. Thank goodness, I have a lawyer so I don't have to

> do all the talking to the quiniueses(spell check) But as many of you

> may know, with WC attorneys they only work so fast, but they do stop

> the calls from coming in from the insurance carriers, etc. I was

> also warned from the get go about camera's. But I couldn't do

> anything to worry about anyways. I would guestion whether there

> really is a tape and not offer ANY info before they show you a tape.

> Don't put it past WC to say they saw you doing things to try and get

> you to incrimidate yourself. Not to say you did anything wrong, but

> they don't want to pay and it is there job to end payment ASAP. And

> they will do anything to achieve that goal, its there job(damn

> bottom feeders) I don't lie about my condition, but I also don't go

> to the Dr and say I am fine. I let him know what hurts, how

> depressed I am, how frustrated I am about not being able to have my

> old lifestyle back. Have I adjusted? NO! Have I played there game?

> Again, I'd say no, I just tell the truth, the PAINFUL truth.

> Otherwise even to say I feel better today can come back to bite you

> in the ass. It is a game, but keep your integrety even though WC

> doesn't. People who are in pain have good days, DUH, but to say you

> are better can kill your case. I just give them the facts!! They

> speak for themselves.

> WHEW!!! I needed that. I am so frustrated with this piss poor system

> we have it just drives me nuts. I went from a good salary too being

> on welfare because I can't work and they cut my disability. Is that

> right? NO! I say we elect politicians who either have a back problem

> or other disability who have suffered at the hands of WC, maybe, and

> only maybe then will we get the system to be changed.

> OK, I am off my soap box. I feel a little better now.

> Hope you all have a better tomorrow, than today, ppsssttt... just

> don't tell work comp if you feel better. LOL

> Thanks for listening to this bitter broad whine.

> :-) Jazmine

>

>

>

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I agree 100%, I'm not a WC person but fought for disability, only reason I was

able to get help while I was waiting for my disability to come thru was because

I have a daughter. I looked at the guy on the other side of the desk at the

welfare dept and said... I receive child support, the only thing I want from

this office is medicaid so I can get better and get back to work (not knowing

how bad my back really was at the time). He said the only reason I was approved

to get medical insurance was b/c I have a daughter. Now tell me that isnt .. to

be nice... screwed up!! Here I was, ordered off work by my doctor, wanting to

get better to go back to work, and if I hadn't had my daughter I would have

gotten no help from them. Makes no damn sense to me, the government does need

some major changes. To add to a previous post, I agree, the ones caught on tape

sky diving and bungee jumping are the ones that make us fight like hell for what

we deserve. I tried contacting the govener of Ohio when I was fighting for my

disability and I got no reply back. They don't give a shit, they get their

paychecks and attend their parties that our tax money (when we were able to

work) pay for.. I could go on but I don't want to sound like more of a biotch

than the govt has made me over the last 2 years... ok, ok, I was one before

that, but who wouldn't be the way this system is set up...

Wow that felt good and I wasn't mad to begin with LMAO Hope you all have a good

sleepful night, I'm on my second night of looking at no sleep but am used to

it... will fill ya in later on the bad news on my end... just a little insight

tho to put it as short as possible... my prescriptions for my pain pills

(Duragesic patch alone costs over 250 for a 15 day supply) are no longer covered

by medicaid. Why? Well, child support decided that the money my daughters dad

owes in arrears needed to be upped... so for that extra $30/mo they are sending,

I got cut off prescription ins. I'm trying to get them to not up it since it

wasn't court ordered, wish me luck that I get these ppl on this asap as I have

18 days left on the patches I have, not to mention very low on my neurontin and

percocet. Just when ya think things are gonna finally go right *WHAM bam no

thank you ma'am* you get screwed... not the way I wanted to get screwed, have

gotten screwed enough that way and I don't like it LOL

Anyhow, sorry guess that short story told it all, again, sleep well everyone and

take it easy :)

Connie

My two cents worth

> Hello all,

> I have been disabled now since 96'. I was always honest about how I

> got hurt, what I could or couldn't do, yet WC Dr's continued to tell

> me I was fine, there was nothing wrong with me. It took many years,

> ALOT of pain, and ALOT of pain meds, relaxers, even anti

> depressants, before one of my Dr's sent me to an othopedic spinal

> surgeon who found a mess in my C-spine, and even a rare spinal

> disease. I was honest and got screwed, and continue to get the same

> treatment. My disability pay was cut off without notice because they

> said I was fine to go to work, yet they did not send me to a Dr or

> do any looking into my case, they just cut me off, like I don't need

> to eat anyways. Thank goodness, I have a lawyer so I don't have to

> do all the talking to the quiniueses(spell check) But as many of you

> may know, with WC attorneys they only work so fast, but they do stop

> the calls from coming in from the insurance carriers, etc. I was

> also warned from the get go about camera's. But I couldn't do

> anything to worry about anyways. I would guestion whether there

> really is a tape and not offer ANY info before they show you a tape.

> Don't put it past WC to say they saw you doing things to try and get

> you to incrimidate yourself. Not to say you did anything wrong, but

> they don't want to pay and it is there job to end payment ASAP. And

> they will do anything to achieve that goal, its there job(damn

> bottom feeders) I don't lie about my condition, but I also don't go

> to the Dr and say I am fine. I let him know what hurts, how

> depressed I am, how frustrated I am about not being able to have my

> old lifestyle back. Have I adjusted? NO! Have I played there game?

> Again, I'd say no, I just tell the truth, the PAINFUL truth.

> Otherwise even to say I feel better today can come back to bite you

> in the ass. It is a game, but keep your integrety even though WC

> doesn't. People who are in pain have good days, DUH, but to say you

> are better can kill your case. I just give them the facts!! They

> speak for themselves.

> WHEW!!! I needed that. I am so frustrated with this piss poor system

> we have it just drives me nuts. I went from a good salary too being

> on welfare because I can't work and they cut my disability. Is that

> right? NO! I say we elect politicians who either have a back problem

> or other disability who have suffered at the hands of WC, maybe, and

> only maybe then will we get the system to be changed.

> OK, I am off my soap box. I feel a little better now.

> Hope you all have a better tomorrow, than today, ppsssttt... just

> don't tell work comp if you feel better. LOL

> Thanks for listening to this bitter broad whine.

> :-) Jazmine

>

>

>

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Hi,

I think what Vicki wrote was really beautiful and true. I am from a country

which is not involved, but I think that right now every country in the world is

kind of indirectly invovled and connected with these events with this war and in

every corner of the world it's continuing to be the top news. Many people here

are saying it could easily lead to World War III, so everyone's worried about

the outcomes.

I actually hate politics and it's certainly not my favorite subject to talk

about, but since nobody can escape these big political events and everybody's

only talking about it these days and weeks, I wanted to write my opinion in

brief.

Well, I can see both sides here and I can feel their fear, tragedies,

hardships,sufferings... As some of you may recall, I lived through the war in my

country for couple of years and because of this, I am so much AGAINST this

horrible and totally unnecessary and unprovoked war. I know very well the smell

of the war and it is the smell of fear, destruction, bloodshed.... Every time I

hear the sounds of shooting and bomb- explosions over Iraq on TV live broadcast,

it reminds me of the so familiar sounds from my childhood.... But, I really

wouldn't want to sound pathetic now, so no more about this...

But, on the other side, I have a family member in the US Army (my mom's

cousin),being somewhere in Iraq now, so we're always so worried about every

American soldier and we always think about them...It all does seem very far away

from me, but we are all in this, I believe....

All I can say at the end, is that this war is a very SAD thing, happening in the

beginning of the 21-st century and it seems that we learned so much, but it was

too complicated to learn the lesson about getting rid of violence, stopping

bloodshed and living in peace. And when I saw " we " , unfortunately, I mean on all

humanity, not on any particular country...

Radmila

" I am against this particular war at this particular time. However, because my

dad spent 25 years in the USAF as a career enlisted man, then retired and

went to work in the Secretary of Defense's Office at the Pentagon for the

past 20 years, I do feel a TREMENDOUS amount of respect and LOYALTY towards

our armed forces. I am a product of that culture. I AM a military brat.

On 9/11, my Dad was sitting at his desk in the Pentagon when the plane flew

into it. For over 6 hours, I did not know if he was dead or alive. Luckily,

the plane had hit the opposite side of the building, and he was physically

fine. Following the tragedy, he was put in charge of coordinating the support

services for the families of the victims....many who happened to be his

friends. For 3 weeks, he spent 24/7 in a D.C. hotel overseeing everything

from funeral arrangements, benefit enrollment, and insurance claim filing to

pet therapy, day care coordination, and distributing donated Beanie Babies.

Emotionally, this took its toll on my father, who had essentially given 42

years to serve his country and protect us. So, he retired last year.

When we went to Afganhistan to fight Al Quaida, I was VERY happy. I believe

that IT IS the war that we should be fighting to insure the future security

of many countries. Bin Laden, and his terrorist network, has killed more

people worldwide than has Hussein. That is factual. That is where our troops

should be.

So, when the talk started about us going to war with Iraq, I was confused. I

thought, why are we going to war with them when all CIA sources claim that

Hussein refuses to associate with Bin Laden. Those sources have repeatedly

pointed out that the two ARE NOT linked. So, I wondered, if it's because we

need to free the Iraqi people from a ruthless regime, then why haven't we

done the same in many other third world countries who suffer at the hands of

tyranny? It didn't make sense to me......so I asked an expert.......I asked

my Dad.

According to my dad, Iraqi does not, nor has it ever, posed a threat to the

national security of the United States. He said right now we should be leery

of the lunatic in North Korea with the atomic bombs pointed at our West

Coast. Instead, Dad claims that this campaign is propaganda put out by the

Bush Administration...a vendetta you might call it...to raise the President's

popularity points (which were slipping drastically nearly two years post

9/11). It is also about corporate control of oil (the Bush family business).

According to my Dad, who still has deep ties to the Pentagon, this war is not

necessary....and surely not worth sabotaging our diplomatic ties! He also

pointed out the obvious....our occupation of Iraq will feed the fire of every

radical terrorist organization and give them a reason for possible attacks.

I agree with that we should bring democracy to oppressed countries.

There are many countries where we should be doing EXACTLY that. I'm not sure,

though, that we have been told the truth by this administration when it comes

to THIS war. I think that the Bush camp has manipulated the truth to frighten

American's into thinking that we are in danger if we don't wipe out Hussein.

The administration has played on our emotions and sense of patriotism to

pursue Bush's personal interests. If you don't support the President, they

tell us, then you're un-American! Well, I believe that statement is crap, and

it is our right AND DUTY to be critical of the man who is in our employment.

In closing, this war will not only cost many people on both sides to lose

their lives, but it will probably cost American's with disabilities to lose

their independence. Already Medicaid is in grave jeopardy to being cut to

cover the deficit Energy Budget. Can you guys imagine what they're going to

do to us when the get the final bill for the war? Goodbye attendant care!

Just my two cents worth....thanks for letting me vent guys!

Vicki "

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Carol,

Your 2 cents are worth a million. You have slowly been empowered to

take contol of your particular health issues by having access to

enough information to ask intelligent questions. I guess it is the

power of the internet...and some doctors might be threatened becasue

you actually know enough about your condition to aske fairly pointed

questions...but I found after I got past the local " live with it "

ortho and on to the surgeons who had solutions (and track records)

that they liked being asked the specifics. I kind of imagine that if

I was a doctor proposing surgery of this magnitude that I would be

very happy to have a patient show up that had some idea of what the

heck I was talking about...not just taking my word for it!

You will surely be the better for having taken your time sorting

through all the info and posts and getting the info you need to move

ahead! I am sure I am not the only one looking forwad to hearing all

about your visit with DrHu in August.

Keep us all posted.

Take Care, Cam

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Carol,

Thank you for posting this. It's priceless. You have captured so much

in this post in words that those of us " on the other side " can't quite

form, but relate to perfectly. I know these words will be meaningful to

many facing this malady. They mean a lot to me!

Bless you for taking the time to share from your heart.

kam

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