antifungals and probiotics

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Hi Bee -

Thanks so much for all of the info you have given us. It is amazing! I have

been reading

more about the antifungal stage and then the probiotics. I am close to being

ready to

start more antifungals (other than the garlic and VCO), so I was wondering what

is the best

thing to do first.

Do I take oil of oregano in addition to the garlic? Can I take it in place of

the garlic? The

garlic smell is driving my husband crazy!

How do I know if and when to take Nystatin? It is going to be a bit tricky for

me to

convince any of my doctors that I need a prescription for this. I don't even go

to them as

they would not even believe in candida overgrowth.

Would I take Nystatin orally or do an enema (or both)? Most of my problems are

GI issues,

so I would think an enema would be good, but I want to be sure I do it/them at

the right

time.

Also, at what point in the antifungal stage do I start taking probiotics? Is

this based on my

symptoms or is it just timing?

I apologize if I missed any of these things in the files - I am ready to tackle

this thing, so I

just need a bit more guidance!

Thank-you so much!

Trish

[Guest guest]

you should look into virgin coconut oil, this is what i am going

for. along with the probiotics.

>

> Hi Bee -

>

> Thanks so much for all of the info you have given us. It is

amazing! I have been reading

> more about the antifungal stage and then the probiotics. I am

close to being ready to

> start more antifungals (other than the garlic and VCO), so I was

wondering what is the best

> thing to do first.

>

> Do I take oil of oregano in addition to the garlic? Can I take it

in place of the garlic? The

> garlic smell is driving my husband crazy!

>

> How do I know if and when to take Nystatin? It is going to be a

bit tricky for me to

> convince any of my doctors that I need a prescription for this. I

don't even go to them as

> they would not even believe in candida overgrowth.

>

> Would I take Nystatin orally or do an enema (or both)? Most of my

problems are GI issues,

> so I would think an enema would be good, but I want to be sure I

do it/them at the right

> time.

>

> Also, at what point in the antifungal stage do I start taking

probiotics? Is this based on my

> symptoms or is it just timing?

>

> I apologize if I missed any of these things in the files - I am

ready to tackle this thing, so I

> just need a bit more guidance!

>

> Thank-you so much!

> Trish

>

[Guest guest]

>

> you should look into virgin coconut oil, this is what i am going

> for. along with the probiotics.

>

Oh yes, I am taking coconut oil. Thats what I meant by VCO. I guess I was just

thinking its

time to add something else.

Thanks -

Trish

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee - Thanks so much for all of the info you have given us. It

is amazing! I have been reading more about the antifungal stage and

then the probiotics. I am close to being ready to start more

antifungals (other than the garlic and VCO), so I was wondering what

is the best thing to do first.

>

> Do I take oil of oregano in addition to the garlic? Can I take it

in place of the garlic? The garlic smell is driving my husband

crazy!

==>Garlic is started on the antifungal stage, but if you are already

taking it then you wouldn't need any other antifungal. But if the

garlic smell is driving your husband crazy you could take oil of

oregano instead, or take Kyolic garlic capsules (available at the

health store). You do not need more than one antifungal (in addition

to coconut oil, which is considered part of the diet).

>

> How do I know if and when to take Nystatin? It is going to be a

bit tricky for me to convince any of my doctors that I need a

prescription for this. I don't even go to them as they would not

even believe in candida overgrowth.

==>You do not need to take nystatin in addition. " More is not

better. " Nystatin is listed as an alternative antifungal for people

who like the convenience, and because it is also versatile for other

applications, i.e. sniffing for killing candida in the lungs, etc.,

as listed in my article - if you need it.

>

> Would I take Nystatin orally or do an enema (or both)? Most of my

problems are GI issues, so I would think an enema would be good, but

I want to be sure I do it/them at the right time.

==>The best enema to do first is a coffee one because it helps your

liver and your adrenals to decongest and dump toxins. After that you

can use garlic tea as an antifungal in an enema instead of nystatin.

Alternate it with a probiotic enema as written in the Enema Folder,

using cabbage rejuvelac or non-dairy acidophilus.

>

> Also, at what point in the antifungal stage do I start taking

probiotics? Is this based on my symptoms or is it just timing?

==>After you've been taking antifungals for awhile and your worst die-

off symptoms have diminished you can start on probiotics.

>

> I apologize if I missed any of these things in the files - I am

ready to tackle this thing, so I just need a bit more guidance!

Thank-you so much!

==>No problemo my friend. I haven't written much about when to start

antifungals and probiotics.

Bee

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Bee wrote:

> ==>Garlic is started on the antifungal stage, but if you are already

> taking it then you wouldn't need any other antifungal. But if the

> garlic smell is driving your husband crazy you could take oil of

> oregano instead, or take Kyolic garlic capsules (available at the

> health store). You do not need more than one antifungal (in addition

> to coconut oil, which is considered part of the diet).

Okay, maybe I'll try oil of oregano instead for a while. Would I get

worse/different die off

symptoms from a different antifungal? Or should it be about the same because I

am used

to taking so much garlic?

> >

> >

> > Would I take Nystatin orally or do an enema (or both)? Most of my

> problems are GI issues, so I would think an enema would be good, but

> I want to be sure I do it/them at the right time.

>

> ==>The best enema to do first is a coffee one because it helps your

> liver and your adrenals to decongest and dump toxins. After that you

> can use garlic tea as an antifungal in an enema instead of nystatin.

> Alternate it with a probiotic enema as written in the Enema Folder,

> using cabbage rejuvelac or non-dairy acidophilus.

Okay, thats great that I don't need to use nystatin. I will definitely read

more about the

enemas and try to prepare myself for this!

> >

> > Also, at what point in the antifungal stage do I start taking

> probiotics? Is this based on my symptoms or is it just timing?

>

> ==>After you've been taking antifungals for awhile and your worst die-

> off symptoms have diminished you can start on probiotics.

> >

Once I start on the probiotics, do I stay on the same amount of antifungal? At

what point

do you stop the antifungals?

Thank you sooo much!

Trish

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> > ==>Garlic is started on the antifungal stage, but if you are

already taking it then you wouldn't need any other antifungal. But

if the garlic smell is driving your husband crazy you could take oil

of oregano instead, or take Kyolic garlic capsules (available at the

health store). You do not need more than one antifungal (in addition

to coconut oil, which is considered part of the diet).

>

> Okay, maybe I'll try oil of oregano instead for a while. Would I

get worse/different die off symptoms from a different antifungal? Or

should it be about the same because I am used to taking so much

garlic?

+++There will probably be no difference in die-off symptoms from

garlic to oil of oregano. Die-off symptoms are not necessarily an

indicator of whether the candida program is working or not. IMO

garlic is probably a little more effective than oil of oregano.

> > > Would I take Nystatin orally or do an enema (or both)? Most of

my problems are GI issues, so I would think an enema would be good,

but want to be sure I do it/them at the right time.

> >

> > ==>The best enema to do first is a coffee one because it helps

your liver and your adrenals to decongest and dump toxins. After

that you can use garlic tea as an antifungal in an enema instead of

nystatin. Alternate it with a probiotic enema as written in the

Enema Folder, using cabbage rejuvelac or non-dairy acidophilus.

>

> Okay, thats great that I don't need to use nystatin. I will

definitely read more about the enemas and try to prepare myself for

this!

+++Great! Let us know how you do with the enemas.

> > > Also, at what point in the antifungal stage do I start taking

> > probiotics? Is this based on my symptoms or is it just timing?

> > ==>After you've been taking antifungals for awhile and your worst

die-off symptoms have diminished you can start on probiotics.

> Once I start on the probiotics, do I stay on the same amount of

antifungal? At what point do you stop the antifungals?

+++You stay on the same amount of antifungals. When you start on

probiotics your body is jockeying 4 things at the same time:

1) eliminating foods that feed candida,

2) building up your immune systems with diet & supplements,

3) killing off candida with antifungals, and

4) implanting good bacteria in your digestive tract.

You do not change anything when it's going well! lol! If you have

too many symptoms on steps 1 & 2 the changes need to be made more

slowly or gradually, and if you have too many symptoms on steps 3 or

4 you cut back on the amount being taken, or change to a different

kind.

Bee

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> Bee wrote: > ==>The best enema to do first is a coffee one because it

helps

your liver and your adrenals to decongest and dump toxins. After

that you can use garlic tea as an antifungal in an enema instead of

nystatin. Alternate it with a probiotic enema as written in the

Enema Folder, using cabbage rejuvelac or non-dairy acidophilus.

>

I have a few questions regarding the enemas.

When alternating the antifungal with the the probiotic, how long do you wait

between the two? Do both in the same day or what? Should you do these regularly?

And is nystatin ok to do as an enema? I remember reading that in the files. I

even got a script for it from my doctor to try it orally and as an enema. Val

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Val wrote:

> Bee wrote: > ==>The best enema to do first is a coffee one

because it helps your liver and your adrenals to decongest and dump

toxins. After that you can use garlic tea as an antifungal in an

enema instead of nystatin. Alternate it with a probiotic enema as

written in the Enema Folder, using cabbage rejuvelac or non-dairy

acidophilus.

>

> I have a few questions regarding the enemas.

> When alternating the antifungal with the probiotic, how long do

you wait between the two? Do both in the same day or what? Should

you do these regularly? And is nystatin ok to do as an enema? I

remember reading that in the files. I even got a script for it from

my doctor to try it orally and as an enema.

==>Yes, you can do them both in the same day; do the antifungal in

the morning, and wait 4-5 hours, or that same evening, and do the

probiotic enema. Then you've only upset your bowel's normal

functioning for 1 day. Wait 4-5 days, not doing any enemas, which

allows the bowel to normalize, and then do them again. After doing

them for a month cut back to doing them once a week, and after

another month only do them every 2 weeks. After 3 months you can do

them once a month, and stop altogether after 6 months, unless you

really slip on the diet and find you need them again.

==>That's great you got a script for Nystatin. It is great for an

antifungal enema and it is easy to mix. When I cured my candida,

nystatin was the only antifungal I used in enemas. I found it really

gave me a lot of relief, taking away a lot of the stress and tension

caused by candida toxins. The coffee enema made me feel re-energized

or rejuvenated. My, what a tremendous help enemas were to me.

Bee

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> ==>The best enema to do first is a coffee one

because it helps your liver and your adrenals to decongest and dump

toxins. After that you can use garlic tea as an antifungal in an

enema instead of nystatin. Alternate it with a probiotic enema as

written in the Enema Folder, using cabbage rejuvelac or non-dairy

acidophilus.

***About 8 wks ago I started doing garlic enemas with only 1/4

clove, however this was too powerful the die off and the healing

reactions were too uncomfortable, so for the last 4 weeks I backed

right off antifungal enemas and have been doing the coffee enema

once a week I look forward to the coffee one because as you know its

re-energising and I feel great afterwards. My dieoff makes me think

that I definitely need to do the antifungal enemas, and I have just

brought some pau darco tea to use instead.

==>Yes, you can do them both in the same day; do the antifungal in

the morning, and wait 4-5 hours, or that same evening, and do the

probiotic enema. Then you've only upset your bowel's normal

functioning for 1 day. Wait 4-5 days, not doing any enemas, which

allows the bowel to normalize, and then do them again. After doing

them for a month cut back to doing them once a week, and after

another month only do them every 2 weeks. After 3 months you can do

them once a month, and stop altogether after 6 months, unless you

really slip on the diet and find you need them again.

***Bee, can I (in the same day) do 2 x 500ml coffee enema, and then

a antifungal one, followed by a probiotic 4-5 hrs later? (I have

done this previously but not sure if it is okay to do)

***Or do I have to do coffee one day, and then 4-5 days later

antifungal and alternate this way?

***I feel the coffee one will help get rid of any die off the

antifungal one causes. I thank you in advance for any assistance

luv Kat

==>That's great you got a script for Nystatin. It is great for an

antifungal enema and it is easy to mix. When I cured my candida,

nystatin was the only antifungal I used in enemas. I found it

really

gave me a lot of relief, taking away a lot of the stress and tension

caused by candida toxins. The coffee enema made me feel re-

energized

or rejuvenated. My, what a tremendous help enemas were to me.

Bee

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> ***About 8 wks ago I started doing garlic enemas with only 1/4

> clove, however this was too powerful the die off and the healing

> reactions were too uncomfortable, so for the last 4 weeks I backed

> right off antifungal enemas and have been doing the coffee enema

> once a week I look forward to the coffee one because as you know

its re-energising and I feel great afterwards. My dieoff makes me

think that I definitely need to do the antifungal enemas, and I have

just brought some pau darco tea to use instead.

+++Yes I personally know how re-energizing and wonderful the coffee

enemas. My first one was rejuvenating to say the least, which I

didn't know could be so helpful.

>

> ***Bee, can I (in the same day) do 2 x 500ml coffee enema, and then

> a antifungal one, followed by a probiotic 4-5 hrs later? (I have

> done this previously but not sure if it is okay to do)

>

> ***Or do I have to do coffee one day, and then 4-5 days later

> antifungal and alternate this way?

>

> ***I feel the coffee one will help get rid of any die off the

> antifungal one causes. I thank you in advance for any assistance

+++Yes you can do them all in one day Kat.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Is it recommended to time the doses of cabbage rejuvilac between the

> coconut oil and oil of oregano doses or is it OK to take them at the

> same time?

==>Hi Wings. You can take them at the same time. Your body knows how

to use them no matter what is mixed together in the stomach.

Cheers, Bee