Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Becca - YES YES anxiety attacks are a part of the candida toxicity! Mine have almost completely gone away now - and THAT is exciting to me! wendy Anxiety related to Candida? LIsa - anxiety is related to this? Has yours gone a way? I was up all night last night with panic attacks (I have panic disorder) and all this nervous energy. I feel like I am going to die or something (you know how it is with anxiety / panic). Is this part of my die- off that I am experiencing? I am going to cut my doses way down till the anxiety goes away...and the insomnia. I just hate this! Becca > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know the > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Oh yes, anxiety and depression are the number one symptoms experienced by women with candida. This has lead to many women being misdiagnosed and pumped full of drugs. during the first 2 weeks of my candida diet the anxiety was awful. I felt like I was on a roller coaster. It was hell. Now I am feeling stronger after only 2 months of anti candida eating and herbs. I have emergency Xanax if I am ever on the road and am desperate. I dumped the Buspar because I don't feel the need for a daily fix against anxiety any longer. Your panic disorder will go away if you kill the candida. I know its hard in the beginning. The candida give off toxins that screw up our brain chemicals. Die off is even worse. Get over the initial trauma of anti-candida living and you will be calmer, I promise. -adele > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know > the > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Hi, Now that explains why a couple of nights back I had difficulty getting to sleep etc. I had racing thoughts and anxiety! It's gone now thank goodness. . Anxiety related to Candida?LIsa - anxiety is related to this? Has yours gone a way? I was upall night last night with panic attacks (I have panic disorder) andall this nervous energy. I feel like I am going to die or something(you know how it is with anxiety / panic). Is this part of my die-off that I am experiencing? I am going to cut my doses way down tillthe anxiety goes away...and the insomnia. I just hate this!Becca>> I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant.> I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I knowthe> anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear.>Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want toUNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Becca, I have panic attacks also. Right now they are under control. But I adhere like glue to my antidepressants until they are fully eliminated. You can have panics with low thyroid or adrenal gland malfunction. You can have much anxiety with hormonal imbalance. I never experienced panic attack with die-off. Usually you can get an attack after eating sugar/carbs and the yeast is flourishing in your system. That has been my experience. LIZ D > [Original Message] > From: <becgraves82695@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 4/30/01 7:52:20 AM > Subject: Anxiety related to Candida? > > LIsa - anxiety is related to this? Has yours gone a way? I was up > all night last night with panic attacks (I have panic disorder) and > all this nervous energy. I feel like I am going to die or something > (you know how it is with anxiety / panic). Is this part of my die- > off that I am experiencing? I am going to cut my doses way down till > the anxiety goes away...and the insomnia. I just hate this! > > Becca > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know > the > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Oh yes, I forgot to mention that low blood sugar will give you true panics also. I would get them in the evening, waking up at night because my blood sugar was too low. Had to eat something. LIZ D > [Original Message] > From: <Rabbitbrain@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 4/30/01 5:00:45 PM > Subject: RE: Anxiety related to Candida? > > Becca, I have panic attacks also. Right now they are under > control. But I adhere like glue to my antidepressants until > they are fully eliminated. You can have panics with low > thyroid or adrenal gland malfunction. You can have much > anxiety with hormonal imbalance. I never experienced panic > attack with die-off. Usually you can get an attack after > eating sugar/carbs and the yeast is flourishing in your system. > That has been my experience. > > LIZ D > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <becgraves82695@...> > > <candidiasis > > > Date: 4/30/01 7:52:20 AM > > Subject: Anxiety related to Candida? > > > > LIsa - anxiety is related to this? Has yours gone a way? I was up > > all night last night with panic attacks (I have panic disorder) and > > all this nervous energy. I feel like I am going to die or something > > (you know how it is with anxiety / panic). Is this part of my die- > > off that I am experiencing? I am going to cut my doses way down till > > the anxiety goes away...and the insomnia. I just hate this! > > > > Becca > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know > > the > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Well, I am up again tonight. Thankfully I was able to sleep last night. This anxiety / panic is absolutely terrible. I keep praying and praying. I am shaking all over. It is hard to type. I just want to quit taking my meds for right now until this calms down. I jsut can't function - not even on the lowest doses. Panic attacks are my number one worst fear in the world. They scare me terribly. I took my xanax today - only .25mg...it was the first time I have taken anything for the panic in over 6 months. I just couldn't take it anymore. And I almost went to the emergency room for it this morning - it was that bad. I took .25mg tonight to get to sleep - it didn't work. I took .25 mg more. It isn't helping. I need to get sleep in order to function at work. I also have two small children, ages 9 and 2. I can't function like this. You said it took you 2 weeks of hell? I just can't do this for 2 weeks. I just can't. It is so awful for me. And after two MONTHS you are finally feeling stronger? Should I take my Xanax that long? I jsut hate taking it - it is so addicitive and I am SO against medication for this. I don't know what to do. I feel like crying but don't want to freak my system out anymore. I took a colon cleanse formula this morning because I was stopped up (only one movement a day) and I don't know if it has made things worse. I am a wreck though - an absolute wreck. Will taking the Xanax set me back at all? I feel like maybe getting some anti-depressant to control the panic / anxiety and then starting this whole thing over again once it sets in...in four weeks or so. I will continue on my candida diet though - no sense giving that up. Oh - this is nightmare-ish. Why does die off have to produce this with me. It is my worst fear. Panic / anxiety is SO scary for me...I feel like I am going to die...seriously...when I get attacks. UGH!!!! Becca, a nervous wreck - literally. -- In candidiasis@y..., " Adele " <BelovedIdeas@y...> wrote: > > Oh yes, anxiety and depression are the number one symptoms experienced > by women with candida. This has lead to many women being misdiagnosed > and pumped full of drugs. > > during the first 2 weeks of my candida diet the anxiety was awful. > I felt like I was on a roller coaster. > It was hell. > > Now I am feeling stronger after only 2 months of anti candida eating > and herbs. I have emergency Xanax if I am ever on the road and am > desperate. I dumped the Buspar because I don't feel the need for a > daily fix against anxiety any longer. > > Your panic disorder will go away if you kill the candida. I know its > hard in the beginning. The candida give off toxins that screw up our > brain chemicals. Die off is even worse. Get over the initial trauma > of anti-candida living and you will be calmer, I promise. > > -adele > > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know > > the > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Thank you for the information Liz D. I just had my thyroid checked at the doctor so it's not that. I wonder about the adrenal gland though. I don't think that is a standard bloodtest. Becca > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know > > the > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Becca - i had that too - and it literally scared me silly. First I would get the 'hot fingers' going up my back and into my neck - HOT... hot,,, hot... and then my heart would be racing... and i'd have this feeling like I had to " pace " ... and would just 'walk' the house - and sit outside in very cold nighttime weather to cool down... boy was it scarey. I too prayed and cried everytime it happened. I took to sitting out in the family room because I didn't want to go to bed. One of the key things in my case was my diet... i just could NOT have any sugar or junk AT ALL - high carbs also could set me off... It got down to 4 things that I could eat. For me the antidepressants did not " touch " the panic attack at all - they were next to useless. One of the reasons I use the whole approach method of the bentonite liquid/psyllium husk/seed, and the rotating anti-fungal is that the die-off is adsorbed a lot by the bentonite liquid. Since I've been on this method I have not experienced another time like that. I *truly* know how you feel - without a doubt - and I care deeply for you - and with little children it makes it harder. What *exactly* are your candida products right now and what is your diet? wendy Re: Anxiety related to Candida? Well, I am up again tonight. Thankfully I was able to sleep last night. This anxiety / panic is absolutely terrible. I keep praying and praying. I am shaking all over. It is hard to type. I just want to quit taking my meds for right now until this calms down. I jsut can't function - not even on the lowest doses. Panic attacks are my number one worst fear in the world. They scare me terribly. I took my xanax today - only .25mg...it was the first time I have taken anything for the panic in over 6 months. I just couldn't take it anymore. And I almost went to the emergency room for it this morning - it was that bad. I took .25mg tonight to get to sleep - it didn't work. I took .25 mg more. It isn't helping. I need to get sleep in order to function at work. I also have two small children, ages 9 and 2. I can't function like this. You said it took you 2 weeks of hell? I just can't do this for 2 weeks. I just can't. It is so awful for me. And after two MONTHS you are finally feeling stronger? Should I take my Xanax that long? I jsut hate taking it - it is so addicitive and I am SO against medication for this. I don't know what to do. I feel like crying but don't want to freak my system out anymore. I took a colon cleanse formula this morning because I was stopped up (only one movement a day) and I don't know if it has made things worse. I am a wreck though - an absolute wreck. Will taking the Xanax set me back at all? I feel like maybe getting some anti-depressant to control the panic / anxiety and then starting this whole thing over again once it sets in...in four weeks or so. I will continue on my candida diet though - no sense giving that up. Oh - this is nightmare-ish. Why does die off have to produce this with me. It is my worst fear. Panic / anxiety is SO scary for me...I feel like I am going to die...seriously...when I get attacks. UGH!!!! Becca, a nervous wreck - literally. -- In candidiasis@y..., " Adele " <BelovedIdeas@y...> wrote: > > Oh yes, anxiety and depression are the number one symptoms experienced > by women with candida. This has lead to many women being misdiagnosed > and pumped full of drugs. > > during the first 2 weeks of my candida diet the anxiety was awful. > I felt like I was on a roller coaster. > It was hell. > > Now I am feeling stronger after only 2 months of anti candida eating > and herbs. I have emergency Xanax if I am ever on the road and am > desperate. I dumped the Buspar because I don't feel the need for a > daily fix against anxiety any longer. > > Your panic disorder will go away if you kill the candida. I know its > hard in the beginning. The candida give off toxins that screw up our > brain chemicals. Die off is even worse. Get over the initial trauma > of anti-candida living and you will be calmer, I promise. > > -adele > > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know > > the > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Becca, There is a test that can be done for testing the adrenal glands- I had one done on my two year old son a couple of months ago. Ask your doc. about it. God Bless, Taiaroa. Re: Anxiety related to Candida? Thank you for the information Liz D.I just had my thyroid checked at the doctor so it's not that. I wonder about the adrenal gland though. I don't think that is a standard bloodtest.Becca> > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant.> > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I know > > the > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear.> > > > > > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to> UNSUBSCRIBE !> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 Becca, Some people have an anxiety disorder, it may not be connected with candida. However it makes everything more confusing than it already is. Do you have any family history of mental illness? I do, but my family members only have depressions not anxiety. So go figure? Just wanted you to take another look. LIZ D > [Original Message] > From: <becgraves82695@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 5/2/01 9:59:16 PM > Subject: Re: Anxiety related to Candida? > > Thank you for the information Liz D. > I just had my thyroid checked at the doctor so it's not that. I > wonder about the adrenal gland though. I don't think that is a > standard bloodtest. > > Becca > > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I > know > > > the > > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you > want to > > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 excellent info Kornbelt I have found that as I progressed in my treatment of candida over time - with diet, supplements, candida purge, probiotics and food enzymes that my leaky gut has been almost cured completely over the last 6 months or so. If a person CANNOT find a doc (which is probably the case) and you RESEARCH - and APPLY what you learn you CAN heal a leaky gut without a doc - it " is " possible. But great info.... Jonah has often posted this site for candida info - and they have good stuff on the leaky gut: http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm#2.1 wendy Re: Anxiety related to Candida? If die-off is too difficult for you, by all means, slow down the anti- fungals. Moreover, you probably have leaky gut as well (anyone with a serious candida problem undoubtably does), and this requires that you discover what your food sensitivities are and stay away from them, and take further measures to heal your intestines. (I would look into Candex as well. About $20 a bottle.) This business is tough. Too much too fast will tax your already overtaxed liver and pancreas (basically your whole endochrine system) more than you should do. I've stuggled with panic and anxiety as well. I suggest a cave man diet, chicken and vegatables only, esp greens such as cruiferious veggies (broccoli, cauliflower) and raw spinach salads (no vinegar.) Moreover, if you have not done so, get a lactulose/mannitol test done. This is tell you if you have leaky gut. If you do, killing off the candida is only the first step. There is no very good test for candida (trials using antifungals the best way- if you take anti fungals and get die-off, then you have it, esp if you try various kind of anti-fungals to rule out a non-yeast sensitivity to a particular one.) But there IS a 100% accurate test for leaky gut. (Nobody knows whether candida causes leaky gut or vice versa. For example, It is known that many things can cause leaky gut, including NSAIDS such as Tylenol and alcohol abuse, and other drugs. Once you have leaky gut, candida is free to flourish.) If you have leaky gut, you will not get over it unless you deal with it parallel with the candida problem. And your candida will keep coming back again and again. My guess, from what I've researched, is that your panic and anxiety is a problem due to leaky gut more than candida. While candida does indeed cause toxins such as acetyaldehyde and ammonia to travel around the system, leaky gut pretty much screws up the entire endochrine system, because of suppression of pancreatic enzymes, and hepatic function of the P450 enzymes. It taxes the seroronin resources (which can cause the panic attacks.) Anyone who has, or thinks they have, candida should do two, bare minimum. Get a lactulose/mannitol test done. And get checked for H Pylori infection, which can cause digestive problems leading to the chain of effects, and ultimate the vicious cycle. In the meantime, HCL and pancreatic enzymes supplementation are a must. Get a copy of this MD's book called Power Healing. http://www.mdheal.org/books.htm And by all means, find an MD in your area that knows about candida and leaky gut, and that will help you. Keep the faith. KB > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I > know > > > the > > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 If die-off is too difficult for you, by all means, slow down the anti- fungals. Moreover, you probably have leaky gut as well (anyone with a serious candida problem undoubtably does), and this requires that you discover what your food sensitivities are and stay away from them, and take further measures to heal your intestines. (I would look into Candex as well. About $20 a bottle.) This business is tough. Too much too fast will tax your already overtaxed liver and pancreas (basically your whole endochrine system) more than you should do. I've stuggled with panic and anxiety as well. I suggest a cave man diet, chicken and vegatables only, esp greens such as cruiferious veggies (broccoli, cauliflower) and raw spinach salads (no vinegar.) Moreover, if you have not done so, get a lactulose/mannitol test done. This is tell you if you have leaky gut. If you do, killing off the candida is only the first step. There is no very good test for candida (trials using antifungals the best way- if you take anti fungals and get die-off, then you have it, esp if you try various kind of anti-fungals to rule out a non-yeast sensitivity to a particular one.) But there IS a 100% accurate test for leaky gut. (Nobody knows whether candida causes leaky gut or vice versa. For example, It is known that many things can cause leaky gut, including NSAIDS such as Tylenol and alcohol abuse, and other drugs. Once you have leaky gut, candida is free to flourish.) If you have leaky gut, you will not get over it unless you deal with it parallel with the candida problem. And your candida will keep coming back again and again. My guess, from what I've researched, is that your panic and anxiety is a problem due to leaky gut more than candida. While candida does indeed cause toxins such as acetyaldehyde and ammonia to travel around the system, leaky gut pretty much screws up the entire endochrine system, because of suppression of pancreatic enzymes, and hepatic function of the P450 enzymes. It taxes the seroronin resources (which can cause the panic attacks.) Anyone who has, or thinks they have, candida should do two, bare minimum. Get a lactulose/mannitol test done. And get checked for H Pylori infection, which can cause digestive problems leading to the chain of effects, and ultimate the vicious cycle. In the meantime, HCL and pancreatic enzymes supplementation are a must. Get a copy of this MD's book called Power Healing. http://www.mdheal.org/books.htm And by all means, find an MD in your area that knows about candida and leaky gut, and that will help you. Keep the faith. KB > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I > know > > > the > > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I > know > > > the > > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you > want to > > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Yes, this is true, because the candida diet is just about the same as the leaky gut diet. (In both you need to isolate and elimiate allergenic substances. With candida, simple sugars must be eliminatedd.) The only difference is that if one has leaky gut, high doses of antioxidents is a bad idea, except for glutathione and alpha lipoic acid. KB > I have found that as I progressed in my treatment of candida over time - > with diet, supplements, candida purge, probiotics and food enzymes that my > leaky gut has been almost cured completely over the last 6 months or so. If > a person CANNOT find a doc (which is probably the case) and you RESEARCH - > and APPLY what you learn you CAN heal a leaky gut without a doc - it " is " > possible. > > But great info.... Jonah has often posted this site for candida info - and > they have good stuff on the leaky gut: > > http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm#2.1 > > wendy > > > > > Re: Anxiety related to Candida? > > > If die-off is too difficult for you, by all means, slow down the anti- > fungals. Moreover, you probably have leaky gut as well (anyone with a > serious candida problem undoubtably does), and this requires that you > discover what your food sensitivities are and stay away from them, > and take further measures to heal your intestines. (I would look into > Candex as well. About $20 a bottle.) > > This business is tough. Too much too fast will tax your already > overtaxed liver and pancreas (basically your whole endochrine system) > more than you should do. I've stuggled with panic and anxiety as > well. I suggest a cave man diet, chicken and vegatables only, esp > greens such as cruiferious veggies (broccoli, cauliflower) and raw > spinach salads (no vinegar.) Moreover, if you have not done so, get a > lactulose/mannitol test done. This is tell you if you have leaky gut. > If you do, killing off the candida is only the first step. There is > no very good test for candida (trials using antifungals the best way- > if you take anti fungals and get die-off, then you have it, esp if > you try various kind of anti-fungals to rule out a non-yeast > sensitivity to a particular one.) But there IS a 100% accurate test > for leaky gut. (Nobody knows whether candida causes leaky gut or vice > versa. For example, It is known that many things can cause leaky gut, > including NSAIDS such as Tylenol and alcohol abuse, and other drugs. > Once you have leaky gut, candida is free to flourish.) If you have > leaky gut, you will not get over it unless you deal with it parallel > with the candida problem. And your candida will keep coming back > again and again. My guess, from what I've researched, is that your > panic and anxiety is a problem due to leaky gut more than candida. > While candida does indeed cause toxins such as acetyaldehyde and > ammonia to travel around the system, leaky gut pretty much screws up > the entire endochrine system, because of suppression of pancreatic > enzymes, and hepatic function of the P450 enzymes. It taxes the > seroronin resources (which can cause the panic attacks.) > > Anyone who has, or thinks they have, candida should do two, bare > minimum. Get a lactulose/mannitol test done. And get checked for H > Pylori infection, which can cause digestive problems leading to the > chain of effects, and ultimate the vicious cycle. In the meantime, > HCL and pancreatic enzymes supplementation are a must. > > Get a copy of this MD's book called Power Healing. > > http://www.mdheal.org/books.htm > > And by all means, find an MD in your area that knows about candida > and leaky gut, and that will help you. > > Keep the faith. > > KB > > > > > > > > > > > > I am on Welbutrin, which I like. It is an anti-depressant. > > > > > I am stopping the Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication since I > > know > > > > the > > > > > anxiety is candida related and will soon disappear. > > > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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