Re: Monsanto/Soy Milk

July 13, 2000

a,

A good book to read: " Crazy Makers " How the Food Industry Is destroying our

brains and harming our children by Carol Simontacchi. It has some info about

Monsanto, infant formulas etc. Very enlightning!

Connie (s Mom)

July 13, 2000

Say, a!

I have your same concerns about suspect and possibly evil Monsanto (makers

of Roundup and other scary products), and the bovine growth hormone given to

some cows. I really like Silk, too. Sun Soy is another brand I drink

regularly. I eliminated nearly all dairy including milk in early 1998 and

have felt better ever since.

Since there is some concern (although I'm not sure it's justified) about the

safety of soy (because among other things it may effect thyroid function), I

would read what you can about it before switching over completely. I've

decided that it's probably safe and that the dairy people are possibly

exaggerating any possible negatives, but I really don't know.

I still have my three kids on milk, but we have a local dairy that gets

their milk from cows who are not treated with the hormone, and they deliver

it to our doorstep (for anyone living near me - Elaine and Anne - it is

Oberweis Dairy). It's expensive, but well worth it. The kids get enough

unwanted hormones from poultry, beef, and pork.

And while we're on the environmental safety issue, I also don't let Chem

Lawn or the likes come and put toxins on my lawn six times a year. I haven't

let anyone do that for seven years now (and I only did in the first three

years because we grew our grass from seed and were having trouble keeping

the weeds down). We certainly have weeds now, but as long as the grass is

mowed regularly, it really isn't that bad. I pull what I can by hand

(although clover is really tough). I also try to reduce the amount of grass

I have every year and plant flowers or groundcover instead. Any picky

neighbors nearby don't have to worry about any weeds of mine spreading to

their lawn because they put enough Agent Orange on their property to

eventually kill their pets. I'm looking into corn gluten meal which is a

newly developed 100% safe preemergent to keep new weeds from germinating.

The best part is that when the kids and their friends are rolling in the

grass, I don't worry a bit. I don't allow the kids to roll in the grass at

other homes if the grass is treated. The rule is, if it's absolutely weed

free, it's probably unhealthy. We also have tons of birds, butterflies,

worms, and ants. It's safe for me, too. The last thing I need is to be

exposed to herbicides and pesticides while I garden.

OK, I guess that's enough for now.

who has a hard time stopping on this topic

----- Original Message -----

From: " a " <aA@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:40 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Seeds Of Destruction

> I agree Trish. There are groups that are urging everyone to contact their

> congressmen to stop the genetic alterations of our foods. It is down

right

> scary. The farmers that get the seed from Montsano have to agree NOT to

> harvest the seed for the following year. They have to buy new genetically

> altered seed each year. This is putting the control of our food supply in

> the hands of a chemical company. This same chemical company is the one

> putting the hormones in our milk supply that may be causing cancer. Did

you

> read the article I posted the other day about the FDA and Montsano? I

look

> at my empty fields, and wish I had the strength to farm again. I am so

glad

> that I found this soy milk. I have been wanting to eliminate dairy from

my

> diet, but I use milk to much. I've switched my entire family to this soy

> milk. We all love it! Soy is also genetically modified unless it says

> organic on the packaging. Yes, we have the right to know. I urge

everyone

> to write their congressmen.

>

> a

July 13, 2000

If there were serious safety concerns with soy milk, they wouldn't make

infant formula out of soy. Is Sun Soy made with organic beans? Soy beans

are top on the list of genetically altered foods, so if it doesn't say it is

organic, the beans can be altered. This entire topic is a real hot spot

for me. It always has been. That's why I try to eat as natural as

possible. It gets harder and harder. I wish I had a farm near me to get

real milk. Of all the things I miss about farming, it is the fresh milk I

miss the most.

I don't use any pesticides either. My lawn is as green as can be and is 90%

weeds!!! It looks very nice when it is cut, and I'd rather have weeds than

a chemical lawn.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:50 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Monsanto/Soy Milk

> Say, a!

>

> I have your same concerns about suspect and possibly evil Monsanto (makers

> of Roundup and other scary products), and the bovine growth hormone given

to

> some cows. I really like Silk, too. Sun Soy is another brand I drink

> regularly. I eliminated nearly all dairy including milk in early 1998 and

> have felt better ever since.

>

> Since there is some concern (although I'm not sure it's justified) about

the

> safety of soy (because among other things it may effect thyroid function),

I

> would read what you can about it before switching over completely. I've

> decided that it's probably safe and that the dairy people are possibly

> exaggerating any possible negatives, but I really don't know.

>

> I still have my three kids on milk, but we have a local dairy that gets

> their milk from cows who are not treated with the hormone, and they

deliver

> it to our doorstep (for anyone living near me - Elaine and Anne - it is

> Oberweis Dairy). It's expensive, but well worth it. The kids get enough

> unwanted hormones from poultry, beef, and pork.

>

> And while we're on the environmental safety issue, I also don't let Chem

> Lawn or the likes come and put toxins on my lawn six times a year. I

haven't

> let anyone do that for seven years now (and I only did in the first three

> years because we grew our grass from seed and were having trouble keeping

> the weeds down). We certainly have weeds now, but as long as the grass is

> mowed regularly, it really isn't that bad. I pull what I can by hand

> (although clover is really tough). I also try to reduce the amount of

grass

> I have every year and plant flowers or groundcover instead. Any picky

> neighbors nearby don't have to worry about any weeds of mine spreading to

> their lawn because they put enough Agent Orange on their property to

> eventually kill their pets. I'm looking into corn gluten meal which is a

> newly developed 100% safe preemergent to keep new weeds from germinating.

> The best part is that when the kids and their friends are rolling in the

> grass, I don't worry a bit. I don't allow the kids to roll in the grass at

> other homes if the grass is treated. The rule is, if it's absolutely weed

> free, it's probably unhealthy. We also have tons of birds, butterflies,

> worms, and ants. It's safe for me, too. The last thing I need is to be

> exposed to herbicides and pesticides while I garden.

>

> OK, I guess that's enough for now.

>

> who has a hard time stopping on this topic

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " a " <aA@...>

> < egroups>

> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:40 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Seeds Of Destruction

>

> > I agree Trish. There are groups that are urging everyone to contact

their

> > congressmen to stop the genetic alterations of our foods. It is down

> right

> > scary. The farmers that get the seed from Montsano have to agree NOT to

> > harvest the seed for the following year. They have to buy new

genetically

> > altered seed each year. This is putting the control of our food supply

in

> > the hands of a chemical company. This same chemical company is the one

> > putting the hormones in our milk supply that may be causing cancer. Did

> you

> > read the article I posted the other day about the FDA and Montsano? I

> look

> > at my empty fields, and wish I had the strength to farm again. I am so

> glad

> > that I found this soy milk. I have been wanting to eliminate dairy from

> my

> > diet, but I use milk to much. I've switched my entire family to this

soy

> > milk. We all love it! Soy is also genetically modified unless it says

> > organic on the packaging. Yes, we have the right to know. I urge

> everyone

> > to write their congressmen.

> >

> > a

>

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July 13, 2000

Connie,

If I read that book, it would probably send me over the edge LOL!

I've heard about infant formulas, so I nursed my children and made all their

baby food. I was a neurotic mother when it came to any foods put in their

mouth. But I WILL keep my eye open for that book. It will give me more

ammo when I write to the legislatures. Thanks!

a

----- Original Message -----

From: <ConnieRon@...>

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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Monsanto/Soy Milk

> a,

> A good book to read: " Crazy Makers " How the Food Industry Is destroying

our

> brains and harming our children by Carol Simontacchi. It has some info

about

> Monsanto, infant formulas etc. Very enlightning!

> Connie (s Mom)

>

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July 13, 2000

a,

Since infant formula is such big business, I wouldn't be so sure that safety

is the first concern. In fact, I breast feed all three kids, and can't

believe that I wasn't strongly encouraged to do so and that I was even, at

times, challenged ( " Ooooh, the baby's crying. You probably don't have enough

milk! " ). The handed me all kinds of infant formula samples and coupons at

the hospital, too. No wonder so many women give up and give the babes

formula!

Sun Soy has no indication on the label that it is organic. Not all of the

stores here carry Silk (yet), so I pick up Sun Soy in a pinch (it's very

good, but Silk is better). There are usually organic soy brands in the

cartons in the juice aisle which don't require refrigeration until you open

them. Those are good for cooking with or in coffee. I don't really like

drinking those straight.

----- Original Message -----

From: " a " <aA@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:14 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Monsanto/Soy Milk

> If there were serious safety concerns with soy milk, they wouldn't make

> infant formula out of soy. Is Sun Soy made with organic beans? Soy

beans

> are top on the list of genetically altered foods, so if it doesn't say it

is

> organic, the beans can be altered. This entire topic is a real hot spot

> for me. It always has been. That's why I try to eat as natural as

> possible. It gets harder and harder. I wish I had a farm near me to get

> real milk. Of all the things I miss about farming, it is the fresh milk I

> miss the most.

> I don't use any pesticides either. My lawn is as green as can be and is

90%

> weeds!!! It looks very nice when it is cut, and I'd rather have weeds

than

> a chemical lawn.

>

> a

July 13, 2000

Connie and a,

Yes, reading this book will probably make me nuttier, too! Thanks for the

tip, Connie. Guess I'll have to find it.

Here is the Crazy Makers web site for some more info:

http://www.thecrazymakers.com/

----- Original Message -----

From: " a " <aA@...>

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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:09 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Monsanto/Soy Milk

> Connie,

> If I read that book, it would probably send me over the edge LOL!

> I've heard about infant formulas, so I nursed my children and made all

their

> baby food. I was a neurotic mother when it came to any foods put in their

> mouth. But I WILL keep my eye open for that book. It will give me more

> ammo when I write to the legislatures. Thanks!

>

> a

July 13, 2000

......talking about fertilizing the lawns......we live in South Jersey

which is

primarily a farming community or should I say, use to be. A lot of the

farmers

are selling their land so that new homes can be built. I have often

wondered

about the safety of the water for these homes as they have well water. All

those

years of fertilization of the ground for crops must surely be in the ground.

Just a thought.

~ Carol ~