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, the specific lean tissue gainer/maintainer suggested by the doctor's

desktop reference is whey powder, in this case a cold-extracted whey isolate. It

is suggested for maintenance even in the face of excessive wasting due to cancer

or AIDS. This has not been lost on the body builders.

Conversely hi carb or oily food does not promote lean tissue gain.

Duncan

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> Well, I need to gain weight, so I am thankful for the info.

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Hi,

Thanks for the defination of abx.  I'm new to this lingo...gosh, so we need abx

to get rid of the infection/bacteria we have in our bodies (toxins), yet it will

not only cause us to feel bad before we feel better but it will put weight on

us!  Geez, how lovely!  It's a no win situation!

a

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From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@...>

Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 4:47:13 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: weight gain?

 

abx is antibiotics - but I have been on them for a year now and have not lost a

pound!!  People dont believe me that I dont really eat anything - sure cant

tell  - I am sure they think I am a lyier - a person who lies about eatting -

now how stupid is that!!  :)

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From: a Frazee <paula.frazee>

@group s.com

Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 4:40:35 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: weight gain?

 

Hi all,

My gosh, I have the same problem.  I should be a size 1 to a size 3 and I am a

size 18 or 20 now!  I hate this.  I get on the scale every day and I stay the

same or I gain a lb.  I drink slim fast or just eat some crackers...not a meal

during the day.  What is the deal with this?  I'm on Armour thyroid but it's

not doing anything.

What is abx?  I have no clue.  What can I do to lose this weight? Any

suggestions?  I need them!!!!

a

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From: Diane Biel <dkbmama (DOT) com>

@group s.com

Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 4:28:45 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: weight gain?

 

I have gained about 75-80 lbs - for a while I was gaining about 5 lbs a month

and eating better and less then I did before!!  When I went to my doc (new one)

she told me that all I had to do was lose 50lbs and I would feel great - what is

wrong with these docs????!!??

I take suppliments for thyroid, addrenals, - have not lost any yet but hopfully

that will start soon??  PLEASE!!  I was never overweight my life - only when

the lyme acted up.......

That was one thing I didnt like about the movie under your skin - they had all

skinny lyme patients - what about us that are not skinny - at least when you are

skinny you look sicker - being over weight we just look lazy - and from what I

have been told and read about 80% of lymies are over weight -

Diane

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From: C-H <kuriouserx2>

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Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 9:11:43 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: weight gain?

 

I've gained about forty pounds since this all began.  I wouldn't have thought

it possible, as I have had weight loss surgery and can't eat enough to gain like

that!  I was extremely active, in the best shape of my life.  I assumed at

least part of it has to be because I can't exercise like I was doing, but 40 lbs

in a year???  Never in my life!

 

:-(

 

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" Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to

choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom. " - Viktor

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From: on <maryhacomcast (DOT) net>

Subject: [ ] Re: weight gain?

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Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:43 AM

Oh yeah!  A 15 pound increase in 3 months with no change in diet or exercise

was one of my first symptoms that sent me to the doctor.  It was almost a year

later I realized it was Lyme.  Six months into treatment I started to drop the

weight, again with no change in diet or exercise to account for it.  I dropped

close to 20 lbs and felt pretty good for a few months but by the end of the

summer I had full blown Lyme again and have gained back 15 lbs in 2 months! 

I'm hitting the Lyme harder now with increased abx and the Buhner herbs so have

now entered the weight loss phase again...

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I've gained 50 punds, 3 1/3 inches, and 2 foot sizes! then recently I lost 25

pounds, which made me happy as Ima teen and like to have a really good bmi.

Elaina

From: on <maryhacomcast (DOT) net>

Subject: [ ] Re: weight gain?

@group s.com

Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:43 AM

Oh yeah!  A 15 pound increase in 3 months with no change in diet or exercise

was one of my first symptoms that sent me to the doctor.  It was almost a year

later I realized it was Lyme.  Six months into treatment I started to drop the

weight, again with no change in diet or exercise to account for it.  I dropped

close to 20 lbs and felt pretty good for a few months but by the end of the

summer I had full blown Lyme again and have gained back 15 lbs in 2 months! 

I'm hitting the Lyme harder now with increased abx and the Buhner herbs so have

now entered the weight loss phase again...

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I forget who started this thread, but thank you, and to all who posted.  I was

feeling very alone with this issue, thinking it was just me, that " normal " was

losing too much weight.  Again, thank you all for talking about this!

 

 

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" Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to

choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom. " - Viktor

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From: Sara <srobinson@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: weight gain?

Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 5:51 PM

That infuriated me about the movie, too. I think they figured 

(probably correctly, sadly) that people would be less sympathetic to 

fat Lyme victims. They'd be more likely to think we were malingering, 

or had somehow brought this on ourselves due to our obvious emotional 

or physical inferiority.

It's an ugly bias, but it's a deeply American one. I once blogged on 

what I call " medical Calvinism. " It's a whole religious belief system. 

Our culture really does believe that thin = morally superior = 

spiritually elect.  Anything health problems you have are the direct 

result of your own moral failure. Implicit in this is the idea that if 

you make frequent enough sweat offerings to the Great Treadmill God 

and never let Evil Fat pass your lips, you will achieve immortality.

This belief is convenient, because nobody ever has to take 

responsibility for anyone else. Epidemic? Environmentally-caused 

cancer? Car accident? Your fault, and nobody else's. You should have 

known better. And if you're also fat -- well, that's the only 

explanation anybody needs for why you got into this mess.

Getting people over this is, IMHO, the single biggest challenge in 

getting health care reform. I was kind of hoping that the swine flu 

thing would help us realize that we're actually all in this together 

-- but instead, we've got the Chamber of Commerce insisting people 

shouldn't have emergency sick leave to stay home with family members 

with the flu. Instead, they want people on the job, no matter what, 

even if it means dragging our family's germs into the office.

You can't buy stupid in those concentrations.

I was always a robustly healthy specimen, too. At 22, I was a national 

championship athlete at USC -- in training four hours a day. I was 

sturdy, densely-boned and well-muscled  (about 150 pounds when I'm 

good shape). Now I'm leaning hard on 220 lbs, up from 210 when I 

started treatment. I'm exercising again, for the first time in years, 

but I seriously doubt this weight is going anywhere until I get off 

the abx, and am trained back up to the point where I can do 10+ miles 

of roadwork every week. During my two month-long drug holidays, I 

dropped 3-4 pounds over the course of the month -- which came right 

back when I got back on the drugs.

Sara

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Wellness Pharmacy (recommended by my LLMD) has some info on glutathione iv

and they also make an oral form (although I don't know how effective that

is).

Since my daughter has been on it, her herxing is way less severe but

unfortunately, the reduction in lyme symptoms is still miniscule. We figured

as

long as she still has her port, we may as well do all the good we can with

it even though she is on oral antibiotics now.

Here are two links to read about glutathione.

_http://www.essentialgsh.com/glutathione.html_

(http://www.essentialgsh.com/glutathione.html)

_http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/medicine-treat

ments/229243-iv-glutathione-and-vitamin-c_

(http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/medicine-treatment\

s/229243-iv-glutathione-and-v

itamin-c) -

In a message dated 11/18/2009 5:52:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

paula.frazee@... writes:

You mention IV gluthathine.You mention IV gluthathine.<WBR>..I have no idea

what that is, but I do know that my dr. sai The outside of my skin on my

stomach is hot to the touch. Does that mean that my liver is toxic? I

have gained a lot of weight too, and I want to know how to shed these

pounds!!!!

a

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<_TUESDAYMT@..._ (mailto:TUESDAYMT@...) >

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Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 6:12:18 AM

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My daughter has lost 25 lbs since starting IV glutathione . I suspect the

sluggish liver was responsible for the weight gain since she barely ate

anything yet gained 30 lbs.

In a message dated 11/18/2009 5:04:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

srobinson@cosmiccow grrl.com writes:

Eighty percent of Lyme patients are overweight. Welcome to the club.

For some people, antibiotic therapy can bring on weight loss. For

others (me) it just makes it worse, mostly because of the strain on

the liver. (I've gained eight pounds over the past year of treatment.

Ugh.) Remember that factory farms give antibiotics to animals -- not

just to protect them from getting sick in the filth, but also because

antibiotics will fatten them up.

As you surmise, messed-up metabolism has a lot to do with this, though

the more sedentary lives we lead sure don't help matters.

Sara

On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:43 AM, bridget wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone has had problems with their weight, I was

> at the same weight for a long time (perfect for my height) and the

> last two months I have gained a lot, I am not eating anything

> different or more then usual, but I am gaining, not sure if it is

> water retention or what. I am sure if I have lymes, that probably

> messes up your metabolism among everything else. Curious to hear

> thoughts

> Thanks

> Bridget

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I feel you on this. I am walking in your shoe right now. It is the dame for me.

I do not know what is going on. Maybe this diet is not for me. I am not seeing

the loss I should. I would be 170 today and wake up and be at 172. What is going

on? In 3 weeks I have only lost about 10 lbs. That is less that half of a pound

per day. Not very good. :(

>

> Ive been following the plan right on. I can not get past 167 pounds. Ill hit

it, then the next day I'm up to 169. My ideal weight per BMI and the doctor is

about 120, so I'm still pretty far from what I consider ideal. I've tried an

apple day with no real result. Does this sound to anyone like my body has

stopped responding? I feel like I may stop drops for two or three weeks and then

do another phase two. Input?

>

> Thanks,

> Mandy

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