Immune System - Marta/New Doc

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Hi Carol,

I have never seen the Immune System problems explained so well - I

really have a better understanding now of what's happening. Yes, I

definitely have sub-normal temp since having Lyme. So it's the wrong

component of our Immune System that's kicking in...and do most doctors

KNOW this?

Please let us know if the things you're doing help - It sure would be

great if we could get our own immune systems to kick in and fight this.

If that were possible, maybe we could actually get off of some of the

abx we take!

Thanks for the info, Carol, I found it to be very interesting.

Patty (MD)

> From: EJFisch@... <EJFisch@...>

> lyme-aidonelist <lyme-aidonelist>

> Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 1:00 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re:Lupus-Lyme and the Immune System

>

> > most of us have the part of our immune system activated that is not

> > the most effective in fighting infection. How many of you have a low

> > body temperature? I'll bet that many of you do. many people with

> > Immune dysfunction do. The citokines that are activated in us are

> > the ones that cause inflammation and not the cellular ones that are

> > best at fighting disease. We need to calm down the humural response

> > and activate the cellular response to have a better chance at

> > fighting this disease. I have been doing some things to try and do

> > this, I'll let you know how it goes.....Regards Carol

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Hi Marta,

Yet another one, right my friend? I'm truly sorry that you had to

be one of the first patients seeing this doc after he'd " seen the

light " !!! The only problem is that the " light " he's seeing seems to

be the same one that the " S-Troop " sees - money, money, money.

Well, this may sound paranoid, and I don't care, but I believe that

either the insurance companies and/or the " S-Troop " are going after

LLMD's and converting the ones who are willing to treat us, but who

aren't truly committed to the reality of LD. They offer money, and who

knows what else, if they will " come over to the other side " .

As asked - how do they sleep at night? Too many so-called doctors

are not really doctors - they've become " businesses " .

And I don't blame you one bit, . I'd cancel any appointment I

might have had with him too - who needs to be invalidated yet again.

LOL Marta - How about this one - apparently all of your previous

knowledge just leaked out of your open zipper!!! <G>

Again, I'm really sorry that you had to go through this BS again. Have

you already restarted your abx? Rest and rest - I'm sure the herx from

hell is just around the corner.

Hugs,

Patty (MD)

> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:41:00 -0400

> From: " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...>

> Subject: Update, Disappointing visit at Infectious Disease doctor.

>

> He then proceeded to give me a long dissertation about the harmful

> effects of long term antibiotics, and how all the antibiotics I have

> taken in the past had to have killed the original bacteria. Turns out

> all my tests were negative again, and this guy did a complete about

> face from his earlier writings about understanding Lyme disease and

> unreliable tests. He told me in his opinion I had Lyme but now I have

> CFIDS. He did not offer any recommendation, for treatment of my

> alleged CFIDS diagnosis. He went on for about twenty minutes telling

> me about doctors in CT, NY and also NJ who are getting rich treating

> Lyme, I took great umbrage at that comment, and told him he was very

> wrong about that. He started to mention that he recently had done

> some insurance work for Cigna, giving his opinion on Lyme patients,

> with that, I turned to my husband, and said, " Now, I understand, he

> is an insurance doctor. "

> A funny aside, the whole time I was in this guy's office is zipper in

> his pants was down, all the way and wide open. I only wish as I was

> leaving that I had said something about doubting his credibility,

> since he couldn't even pull up his zipper.

> I guess I will resume my antibiotics tomorrow, I know in my heart of

> hearts that I felt much better on them then off.

> Hugs, Marta NJ

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