Multiple chemical sensitivity

[Guest guest]

Steve and all,

Are there conditions besides Lyme that can cause MCS? Or do you think anyone

with MCS has Lyme, diagnosed or not?

Ann

In a message dated 11/2/06 2:59:40 PM, xanax006@... writes:

> i have really severe MCS when it comes to ingesting things. - i get

> neurological reactions

> within seconds.

>

[Guest guest]

there are many ways to get MCS. people lump it all under that title

but you can get it from chemical exposures (ie, pesticide poisonings,

sick-buildings,

working with chemicals, house-painters, etc), you can also get this

with MS,

Gulf War Syndrome, mal-nutrition (crohn's), and some people with CFS

and fibromyalgia get it.

and no 2 people have the same version of MCS. some are offended by

smells. others get seizures, etc.

autistic kids are also very chemically sensitive.

Steve

On Nov 2, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Grpinfo@... wrote:

> Steve and all,

>

> Are there conditions besides Lyme that can cause MCS? Or do you think

> anyone

> with MCS has Lyme, diagnosed or not?

>

> Ann

>

> In a message dated 11/2/06 2:59:40 PM, xanax006@... writes:

>

> > i have really severe MCS when it comes to ingesting things. - i get

> > neurological reactions

> > within seconds.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, this is interesting - I did work with chemicals years ago. I think I may

have already had Lyme, but I wonder how the work environment contributed, and

I also wonder how many of the conditions you mentioned may have Lyme as a

base (my llmd thinks most or all cases of fibro and ms, if not other conditions,

may be Lyme related).

I searched MCS in our old posts and saw that someone (, I think) said it

involved brain inflammation (which makes sense to me as something has to be

going on in the brain for senses like smell to be affected).

Thanks, Steve and Kendra, for the resource ideas.

Ann

In a message dated 11/3/06 12:36:23 AM, xanax006@... writes:

> there are many ways to get MCS. people lump it all under that title

> but you can get it from chemical exposures (ie, pesticide poisonings,

> sick-buildings,

> working with chemicals, house-painters, etc), you can also get this

> with MS,

> Gulf War Syndrome, mal-nutrition (crohn's), and some people with CFS

> and fibromyalgia get it.

> and no 2 people have the same version of MCS. some are offended by

> smells. others get seizures, etc.

> autistic kids are also very chemically sensitive.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I don't have that MCS, I think.

But lately, I realised that if I start consuming things I was not

supposed to (due to sensitivity, like wheat, some nuts, some oils), I

feel I start to react to everything else I'm usually not sensitive.

Like bananas, melons, olive oil... In the end, my mouth 'burns' with

so many stuff that I don't know anymore what causes what.

If I cut the original thing that caused my first symptom, my tongue

gets back to normal rather fast and I don't feel I'm being burned

from inside.

Just wanting to share this strange experience. It happened twice

since I caught lyme, but disappeared after coming back to diet again.

If I had continued with the non-diet, I could react to many stuff and

would probably feel like 'mcs' (???). Just wondering...

I had that burning with kiwis, certain tomatoes, etc even before

lyme.

Selma

>

> Wow, this is interesting - I did work with chemicals years ago. I

think I may

> have already had Lyme, but I wonder how the work environment

contributed, and

> I also wonder how many of the conditions you mentioned may have

Lyme as a

> base (my llmd thinks most or all cases of fibro and ms, if not

other conditions,

> may be Lyme related).

>

> I searched MCS in our old posts and saw that someone (, I

think) said it

> involved brain inflammation (which makes sense to me as something

has to be

> going on in the brain for senses like smell to be affected).

>

> Thanks, Steve and Kendra, for the resource ideas.

>

> Ann

>

>

> In a message dated 11/3/06 12:36:23 AM, xanax006@... writes:

>

>

> > there are many ways to get MCS. people lump it all under that

title

> > but you can get it from chemical exposures (ie, pesticide

poisonings,

> > sick-buildings,

> > working with chemicals, house-painters, etc), you can also get

this

> > with MS,

> > Gulf War Syndrome, mal-nutrition (crohn's), and some people with

CFS

> > and fibromyalgia get it.

> > and no 2 people have the same version of MCS. some are offended by

> > smells. others get seizures, etc.

> > autistic kids are also very chemically sensitive.

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Selma

although food allergies can exacerbate MCS symptoms at times,

it's really independent. people with MCS can feel totally fine, then

get exposed to perfume or mold or paint, etc - and have immediate

neurological reactions. sometimes they can be set back for days.

but if the exposure is massive - like pesticides - they can be set

back for months. also, many people with MCS have no food

sensitivities and are otherwise healthy. it's more of a detoxification

disorder. but like i've said, we're all different. my MCS is secondary

to auto-immune problems, lyme, malabsorption and 10 years of

oil painting.

Steve

On Nov 3, 2006, at 3:00 PM, selmanaka wrote:

> Hi, I don't have that MCS, I think.

>

> But lately, I realised that if I start consuming things I was not

> supposed to (due to sensitivity, like wheat, some nuts, some oils), I

> feel I start to react to everything else I'm usually not sensitive.

> Like bananas, melons, olive oil... In the end, my mouth 'burns' with

> so many stuff that I don't know anymore what causes what.

>

> If I cut the original thing that caused my first symptom, my tongue

> gets back to normal rather fast and I don't feel I'm being burned

> from inside.

>

> Just wanting to share this strange experience. It happened twice

> since I caught lyme, but disappeared after coming back to diet again.

> If I had continued with the non-diet, I could react to many stuff and

> would probably feel like 'mcs' (???). Just wondering...

>

> I had that burning with kiwis, certain tomatoes, etc even before

> lyme.

>

> Selma

>

> >

> > Wow, this is interesting - I did work with chemicals years ago. I

> think I may

> > have already had Lyme, but I wonder how the work environment

> contributed, and

> > I also wonder how many of the conditions you mentioned may have

> Lyme as a

> > base (my llmd thinks most or all cases of fibro and ms, if not

> other conditions,

> > may be Lyme related).

> >

> > I searched MCS in our old posts and saw that someone (, I

> think) said it

> > involved brain inflammation (which makes sense to me as something

> has to be

> > going on in the brain for senses like smell to be affected).

> >

> > Thanks, Steve and Kendra, for the resource ideas.

> >

> > Ann

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/3/06 12:36:23 AM, xanax006@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > there are many ways to get MCS. people lump it all under that

> title

> > > but you can get it from chemical exposures (ie, pesticide

> poisonings,

> > > sick-buildings,

> > > working with chemicals, house-painters, etc), you can also get

> this

> > > with MS,

> > > Gulf War Syndrome, mal-nutrition (crohn's), and some people with

> CFS

> > > and fibromyalgia get it.

> > > and no 2 people have the same version of MCS. some are offended by

> > > smells. others get seizures, etc.

> > > autistic kids are also very chemically sensitive.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >