Secondary HCG and DHEA along with my HRT??

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My SHGB is 9 is that in risk for Diabetes?? Will the HGC or the DHEA fix this

low SHGB level???

Re: Re: HCG and DHEA along with my HRT??

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> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 11:33 PM

> Thank you again. You have a lot

> of good info. I do exercise and I am on

> synthroid .1M and Antara 130 mg. I do not eat white

> breads, sugar, rice.

> I eat whole wheat, brown rice, and sweet potatoes.

> Complex carbs. no

> caffeine any more, no sodas, just H2o and green

> (decafe) tea.

>

> " A low SHBG indicates that a greater level of T is not

> bound - more

> bioavailable - good news. " what do you mean???

>

> What is the DHEA supposed to do (burn fat) I hope.

> It can cause problems

> for those of us with BPH although that is not

> confirmed.

>

> I have been thinking about the convenience of the shots

> over the gel. I

> plan my whole day around applying the gel. I have to

> go to the gym early so

> i can shower and then apply the gel. I cant hug my

> wife without covering

> my arms, etc.

>

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> In a message dated 2/28/2010 10:46:05 P.M. Eastern Standard

> Time,

> kevinh@...

> writes:

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> Androgel IS BioIdentical Testosterone. Some doctors prefer

> gels; since

> they are applied daily they deliver T in a daily pulsatile

> pattern more

> closely mimicking what your body would do.

>

> A low SHBG indicates that a greater level of T is not

> bound - more

> bioavailable - good news. I would resist changing to

> injections. Work with your

> new doctor using Androgel and move on with the other

> items, IMHO. Add the hCG

> as they suggest, etc.

>

> Belly fat @ 51! Not surprising Ha1c test is good idea...

> also look at

> glucose and insulin. How's your diet - no simple carbs/low

> carb profile? ---

> first step. Even though you are exercising I would still

> consider insulin

> resistance and/or metabolic syndrome.

>

> What I have learned since starting on my quest is

> that as we age, several

> hormone systems may not be optimum or even very out

> of whack. Getting them

> all optimized is the best plan. So if you thought

> that you would be fixed

> up with a little T, no such luck for many of us over

> 50 males ... but

> there is hope.

>

> I started only thinking about the symptoms of my

> declining T. Then I was

> introduced to hCG, then AI. After that discovered

> hypothyroidism caused by

> Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Now on synthroid. It is

> pretty clear that my

> cortisol level is low too... but can only get my doc

> to move so fast.... we are

> working on it! At some point I will need to address

> my declining GH level

> too. No, I am not overwhelmed since I am feeling a

> great deal better then

> when I started but realize now I am in it for the

> long haul... that's my story.

>

> --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> (mailto: )

> , gviceman77@., gvi

> >

> > Thank you for your response. I am Secondary due

> to a lesion/ small tumor

> > on my pituitary gland. The aging canter is

> recommending Bio Identical

> > Testosterone (Enanthate). cortisol levels are at

> 17 based on a blood

> test.

> > I am doing the Salvia test now for a more

> accurate cortisol reading.

> >

> > SHBG is a 9 which is considered LOW. It should

> be between 18 - 47.

> >

> >

> > I work out a lot and cant get rid of the belly fat. I

> am 51 in good

> > physical cond. weights and cardio 4 times weekly.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/28/2010 9:10:11 P.M.

> Eastern Standard Time,

> > kevinh@... writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > LH and FSH are driven low from the feedback of your

> increasing

> testosterone

> > levels by the external application of Androgel. At

> this point there

> isn't

> > much value in measuring LH and FSH.

> >

> > hCG will provide a signal to your testis to produce

> testosterone and

> other

> > hormones in a fashion similar to LH. The leydig cells

> in your testis

> will

> > be stimulated by hCG; your testis will then remain

> active and should not

> > atrophy. The addition of hCG should also increase

> your testosterone

> levels if

> > you are not primary, that is your testicles

> don't work. You may then

> need

> > only 5 gms of Androgel.... but be sure you

> follow through with

> determining

> > bio-available T.... many suggest calculating

> this using your SHBG level

> or

> > use the Quest BioT assay.

> >

> > DHEA should be added if the lab results warrant.

> You can also trial DHEA

> > but watch for issues. DHEA can cause decreases

> in cortisol so if you

> already

> > have a decreased cortisol level you may be

> asking for a problem. From

> what

> > I understand, both DHEA and cortisol are

> triggered by ACTH/pituitary; so

> > if DHEA is seen as high enough then cortisol

> will not be triggered. The

> > bottom line is that once you start to adjust

> hormones you need to

> consider the

> > results and feedback. If you do add DHEA, you

> should split the dose

> AM/PM.

> >

> > The anti-aging center seems to be on track with their

> additional lab

> tests

> > but, if it were me, I would not put my full faith in

> them yet. It is

> best

> > to be functionally educated, ask questions, and

> keep reading. I would

> stick

> > with Androgel unless proven to be ineffective or

> driving DHT too high.

> If

> > cost is the issue then T-Cyp has the advantage.

> >

> > --- In _ @ --- In _hypogonadism

> > (mailto:_ @hypogonadismhyp_

> (mailto: )

> ) , gviceman77@, gvi

> > >

> > > What do the members on this forum think

> about HCG and DHEA along with

> my

> > > HRT??

> > >

> > >

> > > Been on Androgel for three months. 51 in

> good shape weights and cardio.

> > >

> > > test was 230 now about 600.

> > >

> > > I went to an aging center and they want me

> to start HCG shots due to

> my

> > LH

> > > and FSH being below 1.0

> > >

> > > They want me to start taking Test. shots

> instead of the gel.

> > >

> > > They also want me to take DHEA.

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