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Hi,

I am new to this group.

I don't have a diagnosis of PA as yet but I am fairly confident I

have it.

Symptoms consistent with it include:

Morning stiffness of +10 years

Onycholysis of pinky and first finger of left hand and big toe LHS

Achilles tendinitis on and off for 10years which is getting

progressively worse.

occasional red eyes, particularly the right one.

Psoriasis which has formally been diagnosed twice by skin specialists

as eczema. I have it on my elbows and knees, shoulders and trunk.

A mother who has very mild psoriasis and who is a nurse and believes

my eczema is actually psoriasis

A cousin with psoriasis

A grandmother who had spondylitis and psoriasis. Her psoriasis was

very, very bad just prior to her death from congestive cardiac

disease.

Most of the pain and inflammation with mobility problems have been

put down to sarcoidosis which I was diagnosed as having in 1999.

In 1994 I began a degree at university. I had severe achilles

tendinitis then which improved a little.

In 1995 my health took a significant dive. I was in a lot of pain,

fatigue and felt generally unwell.

About this time the shape of my fingers changed. From being long and

slender I developed swelling most prominent on the middle phalanx but

also on the proximal one. The distal ones were fine - unchanged. I

asked every doctor I saw about them. They either didn't know the

significance of it, didn't have a reason for it or put it down to

weight gain. I lost nearly twenty kilos, but the shape of my fingers

did not change. To me they looked like sausage fingers. Sarcoidosis

is an illness which one can get sausage fingers. I put my fingers

down to the sarcoid too. Now I am wondering. Very, very

occasionally the middle phalanx becomes red. Also occasionally I get

pain and stiffness in them. But it is not that bad. I sometimes

have to prise my fingers off the telephone, but they have not given

me much problem. I have looked at pics of sausage digits on the

internet. Just as many of the pictures don't look like my fingers as

there are that do look like my fingers. I was wondering whether

people who have sausage digits have pain all the time, or only

sometimes? I also was wondering whether the changes are permanent or

just occur with flair ups? I am confused. X-Rays have showed no

arthritic changes whatsoever.

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Hi,

I wanted to respond to your question concerning sausage digits. I

have 8 toes that are considered sausage digits. For some reason, my

big toes are not affected, which really helps, otherwise walking and

balance in general would be almost impossible.

My experience has been that as each different joint is affected,

that joint will be intensely painful, red and swollen. As time goes

on, the swelling and redness stay, but the pain subsists to a dull

ache. However the joints are very tender, so the least bump or

strain causes great pain. That is how it has been for me. My changes

have been permanent for the last 10 years. Only a couple of the very

worst joints show actual damage on x-ray even though most have no

mobility. I should add that I have been on Humira for 2 weeks and

while my toes look the same, they do not hurt. I have involvement in

several fingers, but no sausages there, just individual swollen

joints. They also do not hurt since Humira.

I wanted to mention in regard to another post that I have been using

a liquid steroid called Clobetasol on spots of p on the scalp. It

has remained effective for several years. I use it only when I find

a spot and only on the spot. A physician's assistant expressed some

concern at my using one of the most powerful steriods for so long,

but my dermo did not think that it was a problem. He has cautioned

me to only use it on the scalp and not the face because it can thin

the skin. It does clear most spots and I still have all my hair, so

I guess it is ok! Like others, I had tried every creme, lotion and

shampoo previously with success lasting for very short periods.

Don

I was wondering whether

> people who have sausage digits have pain all the time, or only

> sometimes? I also was wondering whether the changes are permanent

or

> just occur with flair ups? I am confused. X-Rays have showed no

> arthritic changes whatsoever.

>

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Yes, I've suffered this in the past but it's been about a year or better

since I had a flare up. My Rhuemy told me its from Posariatic Arthritis. I'm

blessed that I've a very good Rhuemy that will see me when I need to. If it's

affecting both hands and feet get your butt too a Rheumy. Good Luck! Marty

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hello again .......

well suprise suprise I have the sausage digit syndrome too! on 4 fingers on

each hand and 3 middle toes. It makes them feel very clumsy.... especially the

fingers and my little finger hurt like crazy. I have only had this since early

December if I remember correctly.My finger tip tend to be very hot and red too.

I wish i could get to see my feet a bit easier but am afraid am not nearly

flexible enough to give an exact report on the toes.

You ahve just reminded me actually, that one of the new years resolutions

that I made and have donething about yet was to keep a diary of symptoms/good

and bad days etc changes in meds. you know the things that matter to us. I

think it may help me to become a little more analytical and objective instead

of ranting a lot!! Neither have i asked the docs for anything for it because

for me it is rather minor than the rest of the symptoms and didnt really relish

the idea of another tablet to add to my collection of 16 different types per

day. some of them 4 times a day and more than 1 tablet in a dose.

I have noticed that warm water and warm things generally have helped with

manual dexterity. My last 2 fingers on each my right hand are becoming very

noticably deformed and crooked. very quickly too. Have you noticed that?

1 particular veribrae in the middle of my back is giving me grief today. most

unusual for me as its the neck or base of the back/hips that kill me but i am

getting used to not being surprised when things happen, as I am sure you are

too.

talk soon,

Adam

London

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Mine never have and it has been 22 years....

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, jdgld@... wrote:

> Do sausage digits ever go back to normal with treatment?

> Judy

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In a message dated 8/4/2006 8:46:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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my first case of sausage digits and

I have asked this before with no response. Do sausage digits ever go back to

normal or do meds only help to prevent further progression?

Judy

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I've had sausage digits in the past... It was hard to tell because my

fingers are thin and long... but there they were... I now have only

one finger active, and only remotely looking " sausagey " ... Yes they

can go back to normal, but I have no idea if it is just the body

doing it's own thing or if the drugs helped it along...

michael and the wonderkids... (They're on vacation... PEACE and

QUIET... YEE-HOO...)

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> In a message dated 8/4/2006 8:46:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

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> my first case of sausage digits and

>

>

>

> I have asked this before with no response. Do sausage digits ever

go back to

> normal or do meds only help to prevent further

progression?

> Judy

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Mine have returned to normal, then gone back to sausage, then

normal...and probably will be sausages again, I suppose...

Someone else said they never quite went back to the pre-flare size.

I can't swear that mine are as small as they once were, but they are

definitely *not* sausages right now.

Hope yours go down!

sherry z

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> In a message dated 8/4/2006 8:46:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

> my first case of sausage digits and

>

>

>

> I have asked this before with no response. Do sausage digits ever

go back to

> normal or do meds only help to prevent further

progression?

> Judy

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In a message dated 8/18/2006 7:17:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

martincoyless@... writes:

Do sausage digits ever go back to

normal or do meds only help to prevent further progression?

Hi Judy,

All but one of my fingers returned to normal. The one that didn't has a

slightly larger knuckle. My toes returned to their previous size, but are

shaped slightly different. Some are gently twisted and a couple, according to

my

husband, look like ET. The last digit is shaped just like ET's head. ;-D

Sorry you had to post this question twice. I do remember it, but probably

thought " OH someone will answer. " lazy me.

Good luck and good health

Sandy swOhio

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ET toes?? Me, too! The second toe on each foot is shaped like ET's

head since my major flare in May. Next time they go numb on me, I'll

tell them to " phone home. " <grin>

sherry z

>

Some are gently twisted and a couple, according to my

> husband, look like ET. The last digit is shaped just like ET's

head. ;-D

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