how long

August 4, 2002

You may have just read my post to Angelina, but I just wanted to let

you know that I have always felt the effects of my Armour dosage

changes within two weeks. Also the homeopathic variety I was on- two

weeks.

I'm not sure about which med you should request, but I'm guessing that

since both your TSH and your T4 #'s are issues here, that you may need

to be on something with both T3 and T4 (I love armour). Then again,

I've never been on Cytomel and have heard many people say this is the

only thing that works for them. Hopefully, someone here will be able

to answer that one better for you!

Take care~

Jeni

> Hi all,

>

> One quick question.

>

> How long before you start deciding that a medcine just isn't working

> for you? I've been taking Levoxyl since I got diagnosed but we

> haven't been able to " level " my levels off. I don't think I put my

> last reading ( did I???)......forgive me if I have..

>

> TSH 6.46

> Free T4 - 1.1

>

> Now, just back in May I was 1.1 and then I went hyper.........

>

> I haven't discussed this idea with my doc but if it were any of you

> guys, would you go ahead and be requested to be put on Armour or

> Cytomel?

>

August 4, 2002

,

Do you have Hashimoto's?

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From: " nabie67 " <nabie67@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: How long

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 02:20:35 -0000

Hi all,

One quick question.

How long before you start deciding that a medcine just isn't working

for you? I've been taking Levoxyl since I got diagnosed but we

haven't been able to " level " my levels off. I don't think I put my

last reading ( did I???)......forgive me if I have..

TSH 6.46

Free T4 - 1.1

Now, just back in May I was 1.1 and then I went hyper.........

I haven't discussed this idea with my doc but if it were any of you

guys, would you go ahead and be requested to be put on Armour or

Cytomel?

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August 4, 2002

I haven't discussed this idea with my doc but if it were any of you

guys, would you go ahead and be requested to be put on Armour or

Cytomel?

Yup Make an educated decision, though. Have you gone on Shoman's thyroid

site message board? There are lots of experienced women there who can advise you

on your test results and their opinions as well. in Ca

August 5, 2002

I'm sorry, I forgot to add that....YES, I have been diagnosed with

Hashimoto's, the anti-bodies are present.

> ,

> Do you have Hashimoto's?

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: " nabie67 " <nabie67@y...>

> Reply-hypothyroidism@y...

> hypothyroidism@y...

> Subject: How long

> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 02:20:35 -0000

>

> Hi all,

>

> One quick question.

>

> How long before you start deciding that a medcine just isn't working

> for you? I've been taking Levoxyl since I got diagnosed but we

> haven't been able to " level " my levels off. I don't think I put my

> last reading ( did I???)......forgive me if I have..

>

> TSH 6.46

> Free T4 - 1.1

>

> Now, just back in May I was 1.1 and then I went hyper.........

>

> I haven't discussed this idea with my doc but if it were any of you

> guys, would you go ahead and be requested to be put on Armour or

> Cytomel?

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

http://messenger.msn.com

August 5, 2002

,

it's my understanding that labs are all over the place with Hashimoto's. I

just found out that that's the type of hypo I have, so I'm still learning -

I may be wrong.

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Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: How long

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 02:54:39 -0000

I'm sorry, I forgot to add that....YES, I have been diagnosed with

Hashimoto's, the anti-bodies are present.

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August 6, 2002

,

It all depends on whether Hashimoto's disease is in the active stage

or not. Generally, once a person gets stabilized it is less likely

that it will go into the active stage again. Getting stable, though,

is the part that can be difficult.

Best wishes,

Celeste

(who also has Hashimoto's)

Pierce wrote:

> it's my understanding that labs are all over the place with

Hashimoto's. I

> just found out that that's the type of hypo I have, so I'm still

learning -

> I may be wrong.

>

November 25, 2003

> question?????

> If i begin the diet today and the cleanse How long would you

estimate

> before i begin to see any results (Or feel them at least)

> h

>

I'm not sure anyone is going to be able to answer this for you. It

depends on lots of different things. Whether or not its systemic, how

long you've had it, how bad you have it, etc.

I can tell you that I'm 36 & have had it since my early teens.

According to my dr. my case is not as severe as some she has seen but

is still systemic. I did 100% cold turkey & took the supplements,

etc she instructed starting with leaving her office. But that is no

slip ups, no cheating, no keeping one or two favorite things that I

just couldn't give up. I had die off for a couple days & by the third

or fourth day saw some improvement.

But I'm sure results very person to person,

Good luck,

Ellen

September 1, 2005

In message <df7rve+u2ioeGroups> you wrote:

> I purchased starter culture from

> http://www.earthcalls.com/kombucha/index.shtml. They arrived

> yesterday and I set it up last night. How soon should it be before I

> see signs of " life " ? I see absolutely nothing (22 hours)

Don't worry, Lizzie, it may take up to a week for a skin starting to form.

Did you have any starter liquid with the cultures?

If not, it would be advisable to add a few tbsp of vinegar over the brew

for protection, providing some starter acidity.

> remember correctly, I should be seeing a skin on the top of the tea by

> now.

> Or am I anxious?

THAT feeling is a very common one when you start brewing.

Relax and leave your cultures to get on with it.

They probably will need a bit of extra time to acclimatise to

YOUR environment, which no doubt is great.

It's like having a new baby ;-) you need time and patience to find out

about each other's habits.

It is important not to disturb your brew (no wobbling, shifting etc!)

for at least 8 days ... then have a careful look and sniff.

The fermentation will most likely take at least 2 weeks.

Your reward in the end will be your own health-detox-tonic with

hopefully a baby-culture forming on top which may yet be very thin.

Once the Kombucha tastes acidic enough you can then take the original

'mother' culture together with the 'baby' culture plus a bit of the

ready fermented brew to start off your next batch.

Don't worry, you will be fine, Lizzie!

With warm regards most kombuchaly,

Margret:-)

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September 1, 2005

Hi Lizzy,

Actually it can take a few days before the beginning of a SCOBY forms.

Depending the Temperature and other factors. You should see something

soon. Hope this helps, Myrna

September 2, 2005

> Don't worry, you will be fine, Lizzie!

I feel like the kids on a road trip: " Are we there yet? " " Are we there

yet? "

Lizzie

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ph Chilton Pierce

July 6, 2007

I think you should talk to your ortho because I had my right knee replaced in January and it feels great. I mean if I sit too long it's a little stiff but not much pain and I can walk just like I used to. I do notice that if I overdo it (July 3 and 4 walking a long way from parking to where we watched fireworks carrying folding chairs) I feel a littl creaky but really I just take to arthritis Tylenol each morning and that is enough.

I think you need to ask your OS why you haven't recovered more thoroughly because I would expect it. I'm younger than you but probably much more overweight and have actually gained back some weight I lost after surgery so I don't think that's the issue. What sort of ROM have you gotten? How was your PT experience after your surgery?

How long

I am 61 and had my left knee replaced in November, my right knee inDecember and they are still stiff and in pain, especially at night.Since the surgery I lost 26 pounds so there is less weight on myknees, but still hard to stay on my feet any length of time.I have a pain pump to control a failed back surgery and it should helpmy knees too, but it doesn't seem to keep the knee pain down. Myright knee hurts the worse and the pain shoots to my back right to theprevious injury.How long should I wait to expect less pain and more movement?Sherry & Terry Megabucks RanchReno, NVwww.MegabucksRanch.com~ a dog that lives outside has an address~ a dog that lives inside has a home

July 6, 2007

Sherry:

I had my left knee done in Dec. 2006 the same time as you. I am 60.

Pain is such a variable subject it is difficult to address. I mean

what you might call painful I might call annoying. Anyway I have

stiffness if I have not moved my knee over a period of time say 3-5

minutes. When I get moving there is not pain in the joint however the

muscles are complaining a little if I really push them. I can walk

up stairs without using the rail but the muscles or tendons hurt a

little. I usually use the rail to help pull myself up. I would say

that my arms are doing 20-30% of the work going up stairs.

Recently I have noticed a weakness in my knee when I get out of bed in

the morning or after I have been laying for sometime that I did not

feel before. I think this is because the nerves are healing and that

the weakness was there anyway but did not get the signal before.

Overall it is getting better and I take no medication of any kind. I

went to the fair two days ago and walked about a mile or so. The knee

worked fine but my other joints complained after a while (ankle and

hips and back). I think that is general old age pains.

I have read other posts saying it take about a year for it to get to

the point were you not reminded that you have a new joint. Hope this

helped.

Don

>

> I am 61 and had my left knee replaced in November, my right knee in

> December and they are still stiff and in pain, especially at night.

> Since the surgery I lost 26 pounds so there is less weight on my

> knees, but still hard to stay on my feet any length of time.

>

> I have a pain pump to control a failed back surgery and it should help

> my knees too, but it doesn't seem to keep the knee pain down. My

> right knee hurts the worse and the pain shoots to my back right to the

> previous injury.

>

> How long should I wait to expect less pain and more movement?

>

> Sherry & Terry

> Megabucks Ranch

> Reno, NV

> www.MegabucksRanch.com

> ~ a dog that lives outside has an address

> ~ a dog that lives inside has a home

>

July 9, 2007

Thank you for your information. Your e-mail gave me the best

information and something I could go on.

Thanks, Sherry

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:20:14 -0000, you wrote:

>Sherry:

>

>I had my left knee done in Dec. 2006 the same time as you. I am 60.

>Pain is such a variable subject it is difficult to address. I mean

>what you might call painful I might call annoying. Anyway I have

>stiffness if I have not moved my knee over a period of time say 3-5

>minutes. When I get moving there is not pain in the joint however the

>muscles are complaining a little if I really push them. I can walk

>up stairs without using the rail but the muscles or tendons hurt a

>little. I usually use the rail to help pull myself up. I would say

>that my arms are doing 20-30% of the work going up stairs.

>

>Recently I have noticed a weakness in my knee when I get out of bed in

>the morning or after I have been laying for sometime that I did not

>feel before. I think this is because the nerves are healing and that

>the weakness was there anyway but did not get the signal before.

>Overall it is getting better and I take no medication of any kind. I

>went to the fair two days ago and walked about a mile or so. The knee

>worked fine but my other joints complained after a while (ankle and

>hips and back). I think that is general old age pains.

>

>I have read other posts saying it take about a year for it to get to

>the point were you not reminded that you have a new joint. Hope this

>helped.

>

>Don

>

>>

>> I am 61 and had my left knee replaced in November, my right knee in

>> December and they are still stiff and in pain, especially at night.

>> Since the surgery I lost 26 pounds so there is less weight on my

>> knees, but still hard to stay on my feet any length of time.

>>

>> I have a pain pump to control a failed back surgery and it should help

>> my knees too, but it doesn't seem to keep the knee pain down. My

>> right knee hurts the worse and the pain shoots to my back right to the

>> previous injury.

>>

>> How long should I wait to expect less pain and more movement?

>>

>> Sherry & Terry

>> Megabucks Ranch

>> Reno, NV

>> www.MegabucksRanch.com

>> ~ a dog that lives outside has an address

>> ~ a dog that lives inside has a home

>>

>

July 10, 2007

Sherry, Congratulations on your weight loss. That's a one heck of a victory! Mine is coming off...slowly. What does your surgeon say about your pain and stiffness? I hope you are still in follow-up appointments. You should be, and you should not be charged for them since this is all still a result of your surgery. I had both my knees replaced in September. It took me four months to start quit limping. Everyone is so different in the way they heal. My knees still swell and get sore. I take Tramadol and Advil for the arthritis throughout my body and that takes care of the knees also. My brother, who is 11 years older than me and a much bigger, guy had his knees replaced one at a time in January and April. Despite our expectations, he healed better than me. I'm feeling pretty good. I mowed the yard the other day

with a push mower, but someone reminded me that may not be the best way to preserve the knees. So perhaps I better stick to walking and swimming. I believe swimming is making all the difference for me as well as the warm weather. It doesn't do much for my allergies, but it certainly helps the aches and pains. I am supposed to be doing pre-diabetes training, but recently moved and still getting settled. I do need to check on that and to ensure my sugar is under control and not interfering with healing. Can you do water workouts? Are you applying ice therapy to your knees at night? I am doing that also on the worst nights. But I believe if I were you, I wouldn't wait any longer to get a new set of x-rays and answers from the surgeon just to be sure. I also wonder about scar tissue. Get in there and start asking questions. It may be that you just need the full year to get where you need to be. But you want to

be sure. And let us know what you find out. Wishing you the very best and with warm regards, Donna

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July 27, 2007

Hi ,

I hope some of the partners of those with Stills will chime in about

coping mechanisms and such. It has got to be hard on the family to

not only see your loved one go through this, but also to deal with we

all know can be a very difficult attitude.

Regarding your questions...

1) flare and meds: for me it took about six months for even slight

relief of symptoms and about 2 years before fairly decent relief.

It's a game of playing with all the med options and building those and

seeing what works. For me I am an several meds, but we have had to

build those up and play around to see what works.

2) diet: personally I don't get relief from Stills due to diet,

however, I do in general feel better when I eat a lower starch/carb

and higher protein diet. This is a meat and vegetable based diet for

me. Not that i don't eat potoates or rice or fruit, I do, just in

smaller quantities. BUT..the catch for me is that when i am feeling

really bad Stills-wise, eating a higher protein diet isn't an option

because my stomach is usually ill feeling, so I have to eat a higher

carb diet, grrrrrrrrr.

i am so glad you are coming here and asking questions and getting

informed and educated. it's great to see you involved in your

husband's health. And remember, you can come here to vent anytime as

well.

Houston, Texas

July 27, 2007

Hi ,

I hope some of the partners of those with Stills will chime in about

coping mechanisms and such. It has got to be hard on the family to

not only see your loved one go through this, but also to deal with we

all know can be a very difficult attitude.

Regarding your questions...

1) flare and meds: for me it took about six months for even slight

relief of symptoms and about 2 years before fairly decent relief.

It's a game of playing with all the med options and building those and

seeing what works. For me I am an several meds, but we have had to

build those up and play around to see what works.

2) diet: personally I don't get relief from Stills due to diet,

however, I do in general feel better when I eat a lower starch/carb

and higher protein diet. This is a meat and vegetable based diet for

me. Not that i don't eat potoates or rice or fruit, I do, just in

smaller quantities. BUT..the catch for me is that when i am feeling

really bad Stills-wise, eating a higher protein diet isn't an option

because my stomach is usually ill feeling, so I have to eat a higher

carb diet, grrrrrrrrr.

i am so glad you are coming here and asking questions and getting

informed and educated. it's great to see you involved in your

husband's health. And remember, you can come here to vent anytime as

well.

Houston, Texas

July 27, 2007

Hi ,

I hope some of the partners of those with Stills will chime in about

coping mechanisms and such. It has got to be hard on the family to

not only see your loved one go through this, but also to deal with we

all know can be a very difficult attitude.

Regarding your questions...

1) flare and meds: for me it took about six months for even slight

relief of symptoms and about 2 years before fairly decent relief.

It's a game of playing with all the med options and building those and

seeing what works. For me I am an several meds, but we have had to

build those up and play around to see what works.

2) diet: personally I don't get relief from Stills due to diet,

however, I do in general feel better when I eat a lower starch/carb

and higher protein diet. This is a meat and vegetable based diet for

me. Not that i don't eat potoates or rice or fruit, I do, just in

smaller quantities. BUT..the catch for me is that when i am feeling

really bad Stills-wise, eating a higher protein diet isn't an option

because my stomach is usually ill feeling, so I have to eat a higher

carb diet, grrrrrrrrr.

i am so glad you are coming here and asking questions and getting

informed and educated. it's great to see you involved in your

husband's health. And remember, you can come here to vent anytime as

well.

Houston, Texas

July 27, 2007

and Phil:

wow 1st thing that comes to my mind is stills dose every one deferent and yet

the same so what works for one person may o not or may work for you as even with

meds it is all a one person deal when it comes down to it ( what mix works for

me thing )

Now I am going to ask some thing that may be easy or hard to answer to your

self¢s. Have you thought of going to concealing! As I always say stills changes

life and it can help each person both with and with out stills understand how it

can and normally dose change life for each and together. I know for my self,

pity I can not handle from any one and it makes me mad when I get it. After all

I am a man and a man is the strong one that holds a family and takes care of

them right well okay so I was raised to believe this and saw t practiced by my

parents. Now understanding and help when I ask for it that works for me but the

hard part was asking for help because as the man I was to take care of the

family NOT THEM ME!!! Well that is how I think most men feel and if we are mad

to feel like a burden it is hard on us and yet that may not be what or wife /

kids are saying at all (the reason again for concealing)

Now in my life I would not be a good one to say what works because my ex wife

divorced me over stills and my not working any more the burden thing. My wife

now row up with a disabled father who did not allow any pity at all. He was a

some what angered man but only in the fact that he had to fight so hard just to

get a job to support his family. but when it come to how to treat fairly a

spouse who is disabled she dose this great but then again 30 plus years of

watching her mom and dad I now reap the benefits of it. so talk talk and then

talk some more to each other share your feeling and fears but love to no end

each other because stills in a house hold is not easy for any one

Hugs

The redneck Marty

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