Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Kissy I hope you don't that this as an attack. But I would believe A Dr. that treats men that used Propecia over the what the Drug Co. says that sells it. Phil 2. Several members have emailed me that you wrote somewhere else there is an appropriate application of topical spironolactone where it is basically applied to the entire body. If you now wish to deny you ever made any such ridiculous recomendation, then please just say so. 3. This concept demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of the physiological processes involved; plus simply a total lack of experience with the medication being recommended. It also sheds light on what you consider a valid thought process. More on that later. Let's consider what the hormone DHT does for adult males. Better yet, let's think about what happens when it is suppressed with finasteride. In a significant number of men--and those who were not even suffering elevated levels of same to start with---this very often results in weakness, fatigue, fat gain, depression, lack of libido, and frank impotence. Does that sound to anyone like what we are trying to AVOID with PCT? When you add in the overall effects of this very problematic list of negative side effects on our training, and therefore muscle size, we come to the conclusion that you are recommending a drug during PCT which CAUSES all the negative side effects of NOT doing PCT. A good analogy would be for you to recommend unprotected, promiscious sex to prevent AIDS. I have several dozen patients who now suffer PERMANENT ill side effects after taking low-dose finasteride for even a short period of time. Did it not ever occur to you to actually learn about the drugs you want people to take? I see how you have come up with the wacky ideas you write about: you read somewhere that doing this or that elevates LH, so you, in an effort to make a name for yourself by coming up with some new idea, begin writing about using it somewhere in steroid use. Most often the study you have read, and reference as " proof " of your concept, either is not an appropriate use of reference, or simply has no bearing on the topic at all. Simply, you do not understand how to read a study. You made a comment in this very thread which offers even more proof of that fact. You never consider the overall action of the therapy you propose. This is because you simply cannot, as you have never studied physiology, biochemistry, pharmacology or endocrinology. Even moreso, I see constant abandonment of simple common sense: recommending a drug which causes the symptoms of hypogonadism while trying to treat same. For these resons, you have shown that you cannot even begin to fathom the overall results of what following your advice will bring. This is all just plain lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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