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No where near 80 but I'm curious in how your penis

just stopped functioning... I grew up without TRT and

I didn't have the sensation to touch myself nor did I

get regular erections but Im sure my penis worked. I

remember masturbating for the first time around 18 or

19 and finally seeing stuff come out but never felt a

pleasureable sensation.

Hey Roy, I hope your penis begins to work again. but

wow. still wanting to get laid at 80... The stories

you can tell and have been thru till now. Amazing...

--- Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

> Hey Guys,

> I am still wondering if there is anyone out there

> that is 80 yrs or older in this group.

> I never did get an answer before so I will try

> again. Or is it that older guys just don't

> get on the computer or are too old to care whether

> they have sex or not, Ha!. I do

> still care as I lost it about 3 yrs ago and still

> miss it. Right now I have crashed as

> Phil likes to call it. I have nothing and feel

> nothing but am waiting on my last blood

> test to find out what happened. I know something

> sure did, I can't even ejaculate

> or want to at present. Let me hear if any of you

> are in my age group. I know that

> Noland is in his 70's but that doesn't count, Ha!

> Roy

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Elliot, I have been using the pump for many years and successfully until one

day I couldn't orgasm and that has been my problem now for 3 years, don't ask

me why. I don't know why, but it did. Then I started talking to guys on here

and decided I needed to check some things out which I am still doing.

You mean to tell me that you ejaculated when you were 18 or 19 and didn't

feel any pleasurable sensation? Wow and how about now? Yeah I am 83d

going on 84 and still want to get LAYED! Right now I am dead again because

I have an unbalance somewhere, will soon know. Hang in there your time

will come (sooner or later.) Later I hope...... Sounds like you have no

sexual

sensations at all from what you said, impossible!

Roy

ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

No where near 80 but I'm curious in how your penis

just stopped functioning... I grew up without TRT and

I didn't have the sensation to touch myself nor did I

get regular erections but Im sure my penis worked. I

remember masturbating for the first time around 18 or

19 and finally seeing stuff come out but never felt a

pleasureable sensation.

Hey Roy, I hope your penis begins to work again. but

wow. still wanting to get laid at 80... The stories

you can tell and have been thru till now. Amazing...

--- Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

> Hey Guys,

> I am still wondering if there is anyone out there

> that is 80 yrs or older in this group.

> I never did get an answer before so I will try

> again. Or is it that older guys just don't

> get on the computer or are too old to care whether

> they have sex or not, Ha!. I do

> still care as I lost it about 3 yrs ago and still

> miss it. Right now I have crashed as

> Phil likes to call it. I have nothing and feel

> nothing but am waiting on my last blood

> test to find out what happened. I know something

> sure did, I can't even ejaculate

> or want to at present. Let me hear if any of you

> are in my age group. I know that

> Noland is in his 70's but that doesn't count, Ha!

> Roy

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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When I started masturbating, my brother just turned me

on to porn. This city use to have many porno shops

with booths but now it's limited and weird.

The first couple of times I tried to masturbate,

nothing came out. Then after I brought my first porn

movies via mail, it occurred but I didn't feel

anything.

Keep in mind, my T was very low all my life until very

recently. forget about me having sexual feelings for

females growing up; I simply couldnt and knew if I

could, my size would infringe.

Now, I feel like a horny bastard; jerking off because

my body is " use " to the sensation of masturbating.

I never once wanted to have sex with what I viewed

unlike others. The others mock and insult me and dont

believe a person like me can exist. This is when I

tried to emphasize on porn forums. Blah.

Hey Roy, if you can share some stories please do so.

You were around for so many changing events including

your personal ones.

Didn't you type you have been with the same woman for

60 years? I'm like WOW if that's true.

com> wrote:

> Elliot, I have been using the pump for many years

> and successfully until one

> day I couldn't orgasm and that has been my problem

> now for 3 years, don't ask

> me why. I don't know why, but it did. Then I

> started talking to guys on here

> and decided I needed to check some things out

> which I am still doing.

>

> You mean to tell me that you ejaculated when you

> were 18 or 19 and didn't

> feel any pleasurable sensation? Wow and how about

> now? Yeah I am 83d

> going on 84 and still want to get LAYED! Right

> now I am dead again because

> I have an unbalance somewhere, will soon know.

> Hang in there your time

> will come (sooner or later.) Later I hope......

> Sounds like you have no sexual

> sensations at all from what you said, impossible!

> Roy

>

> ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

>

> No where near 80 but I'm curious in how your penis

> just stopped functioning... I grew up without TRT

> and

> I didn't have the sensation to touch myself nor did

> I

> get regular erections but Im sure my penis worked. I

> remember masturbating for the first time around 18

> or

> 19 and finally seeing stuff come out but never felt

> a

> pleasureable sensation.

>

> Hey Roy, I hope your penis begins to work again. but

> wow. still wanting to get laid at 80... The stories

> you can tell and have been thru till now. Amazing...

> --- Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

>

> > Hey Guys,

> > I am still wondering if there is anyone out there

> > that is 80 yrs or older in this group.

> > I never did get an answer before so I will try

> > again. Or is it that older guys just don't

> > get on the computer or are too old to care whether

> > they have sex or not, Ha!. I do

> > still care as I lost it about 3 yrs ago and still

> > miss it. Right now I have crashed as

> > Phil likes to call it. I have nothing and feel

> > nothing but am waiting on my last blood

> > test to find out what happened. I know something

> > sure did, I can't even ejaculate

> > or want to at present. Let me hear if any of you

> > are in my age group. I know that

> > Noland is in his 70's but that doesn't count, Ha!

> > Roy

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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my girlfriend put me on hold about 3 weeks ago and has of yesterday dumped me

so thats it my 1 year with a female has come to an end and idont intend to piut

myself in this emptional crap again

she was first so called proper gf ,my last being 18 yrs before that

yes i am bad without having gf but worse with emotionally

as for wanking i assumed till age of about 18 that pissing and ejacualtion were

same thing,i afaik never have had a wet dream or morning erections,but yes i can

ejaculate ,just i had no idea what that meant till at least 18 and any porno

mags i pissed on,and to this day have a very strong fetish for pissiong and like

porno with girls pissing.

now i will just go for masturbation only,girls are way too much trouble,it took

18yrs to get one that fancied me in first place at my weight and physical size

and looks,my behavoiurs,my emotional and sexual problems of not being

comfortable in sexual positions,size of equipmemnt and foreskin not being able

to move past my glans,well know all thats gone and dont intend to want it again

if i do go for trt its for the lethargy/concentration issues and not for sexual

functioning side.

the main thing for me is to get low testosterone confiemed as being a factor in

,my lifelong lethargy concetrations issues as well as my add/dysrpaxia and

aspergers.

it may still be dangerous for me with my emotioanal reaction problems to have

trt as it may make my rage attacks that conssit og throwning and breaking

things,shouting and scraming and crrying into actual things where i end up

hitting people,i have no idea what would be a normal range for me,as have never

had normal.

recognition of the problem is key thing,so at least to be able to tell our

benefits people inj uk of the additional problems i have preventing me from

working and so on

Re: New Subject-Age related

Elliot, I have been using the pump for many years and successfully until one

day I couldn't orgasm and that has been my problem now for 3 years, don't ask

me why. I don't know why, but it did. Then I started talking to guys on here

and decided I needed to check some things out which I am still doing.

You mean to tell me that you ejaculated when you were 18 or 19 and didn't

feel any pleasurable sensation? Wow and how about now? Yeah I am 83d

going on 84 and still want to get LAYED! Right now I am dead again because

I have an unbalance somewhere, will soon know. Hang in there your time

will come (sooner or later.) Later I hope...... Sounds like you have no sexual

sensations at all from what you said, impossible!

Roy

ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr (DOT) com> wrote:

No where near 80 but I'm curious in how your penis

just stopped functioning. .. I grew up without TRT and

I didn't have the sensation to touch myself nor did I

get regular erections but Im sure my penis worked. I

remember masturbating for the first time around 18 or

19 and finally seeing stuff come out but never felt a

pleasureable sensation.

Hey Roy, I hope your penis begins to work again. but

wow. still wanting to get laid at 80... The stories

you can tell and have been thru till now. Amazing...

--- Roy <chickenbirdtree> wrote:

> Hey Guys,

> I am still wondering if there is anyone out there

> that is 80 yrs or older in this group.

> I never did get an answer before so I will try

> again. Or is it that older guys just don't

> get on the computer or are too old to care whether

> they have sex or not, Ha!. I do

> still care as I lost it about 3 yrs ago and still

> miss it. Right now I have crashed as

> Phil likes to call it. I have nothing and feel

> nothing but am waiting on my last blood

> test to find out what happened. I know something

> sure did, I can't even ejaculate

> or want to at present. Let me hear if any of you

> are in my age group. I know that

> Noland is in his 70's but that doesn't count, Ha!

> Roy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

>

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Hi

Sorry to hear your news.

" if i do go for trt its for the lethargy/concentration issues and not for

sexual functioning side. "

this is all part and parcel of the illness. Your Testosterone levels are

very low and deficient not just low. At this level interest in sex goes or is

altered. When TRT starts to work you will start to get stronger goof sexual

feelings and then you will be able to reconsider your life and relationships.

As to masturbation: My own feeling is that during low T periods it is

important to try and keep the body working and to this end you may have to

work at masturbating but it is imp[ortant for bodily functions whilst the low T

causes problems.

Take care,

On 16 Jun 2006 at 2:14, paul wey wrote:

> my girlfriend put me on hold about 3 weeks ago and has of yesterday dumped me

>

> so thats it my 1 year with a female has come to an end and idont intend to

piut myself in

this emptional crap again

>

> she was first so called proper gf ,my last being 18 yrs before that

>

> yes i am bad without having gf but worse with emotionally

>

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Hey paul. Sorry things didn't work out with your

girlfriend. Use that experience and when you are

ready, go out there and find someone again.

Trust me, I know it's complicated finding a mate that

would accept who you are. It's also difficult for me

to confront females. Well actually, I don't do it.

I know all to well about having lack of focus-ness and

concentration. I felt it more during HS and below. I

knew I wasn't stupid nor a bad student, but I knew I

couldn't learn on the level as others. I didn't know

my lack of learning and learning disablities where a

result of Primary Hypogonadism.

It's one of the nasy side effects.

It can also be blinded by folks thinking its caused by

an emotional disorder. I'm sure both learning

disability and emotional disablities play the same

horrible chord on someone.. It did for me, and I felt

very socially, physically, and mentally withdrawn from

school that still plagues me today.

I just imagine if I wasn't sick, what kind of

successful person I could have become....

I just hope my TRT can continue to improve... Maybe

then I can become the person I always knew I could.

My size is 5.5 or close to 6 inches. Blah I say....

Wanker doctors say I'm within the " normal " range. Tell

that to a female looking for more...

Hey , I wish you true happiness and some resolve

during this bitter and confusing time. You will meet

someone again bro.

If you need to vent or talk I'm sure others will

understand and just try to support you in any way we

and I can.

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people with aspergers generally have a very hard time with relatiosnships,we

prefer our own compoany and cant do social stuff

like i only took my gf out to cinema 2 times and only usuallyn in day time

becasue i cant stand noise or people ,its not just me not wanting a gf,i like to

as on here talk on email,its good but face to face or on phnoe is vey hard and i

tried so hard to try and be more social but i just could not do it.

my intentions now are to close down college goes out of the window,so does going

back to the location where college is as i cant abide to see anyone from college

or anyone who knows my ex gf.

18 yrs ago i had a gf in a holiday camp only one night,though again she said she

loved me,then i was perfect weight and perfect size[apart from the usuall small

penis] she was only the second attempt at intercourse in my life and yes i

failed again,she said dont worry she loved me and we could try many times,at 3

am 4am etc she said this,by 7 am after camp breakfast it was over.

i tried to work and in fact made so many errors in a mtter of hoiurs i got in a

taxi and then got train home,only ever going back to hliday camp to collect my

things

i sadly have a knack of being able to reemeber every rejection/bullying and bad

moments from all my life,yet rarely remeber good things,so each bad thing just

piles up and piles up to add to my emotional baggahge.

the only way i can survive safely is to shut down ,stay in my romm as mich as

possible,otherwise every litttel thing have me go into major meltdown ,which are

worse than my usual meltdowns and o far each time these have happend i end up in

court for some crime,and usually something that gets me nationall coverage,i

dont do things by halves when in major meltdown mode.

so i have to be very careful this time and shut down as much as i can,yeaterday

was like getting sacked again all over again and i have spent too much of my

life being sacked and rejected by society and individuals.

email as said is good i can say how i feel and so on ,but still in real life i

have to be so more careful becasuse of my emotioanl responses that get me into

trouble and when things like being sacked/rejected happen then as aaid i am a

danger to mysefl and others,and my history shows that,so yes i can still go out

but must be careful

i go to london tommorow but must be careful about where i go,not get overloaded

so most likely i go to a floating restuarant on thames and watch the big flypast

for queens 80th birthsday fdrom there instead of being in mioddle of the

trooping the color,where in past the police have watched me anyway,though sincle

my aspergers diagnoses theyt have been more sympathetic to my problems and some

are able to talk to me nicely and keep me calm but better stil i stay on thye

boat on thames.

trt may help but because of the underlying aspergers/add/dyspraxia then those

iwll still be with me till day i die so infact its not worth pinning ones hopes

on a thing that may or may not work or may make me emotionally more dangerous,me

with high testosterone may be worse than me with low testosterone,the main thig

is as aid i want it to be recognised as part of my ongoing issues.

anything else would have to be discused woith my support team me and the endo or

whatever as to what is tried,how and when and how its managed ie my nurse who at

present is just in an advisory team member role,may be then required to monitor

me on trt.

nothing much is like to upset me there

regards paul

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Hi

Sorry to hear your news.

" if i do go for trt its for the lethargy/concentrat ion issues and not for

sexual functioning side. "

this is all part and parcel of the illness. Your Testosterone levels are

very low and deficient not just low. At this level interest in sex goes or is

altered. When TRT starts to work you will start to get stronger goof sexual

feelings and then you will be able to reconsider your life and relationships.

As to masturbation: My own feeling is that during low T periods it is

important to try and keep the body working and to this end you may have to

work at masturbating but it is imp[ortant for bodily functions whilst the low T

causes problems.

Take care,

On 16 Jun 2006 at 2:14, paul wey wrote:

> my girlfriend put me on hold about 3 weeks ago and has of yesterday dumped me

>

> so thats it my 1 year with a female has come to an end and idont intend to

piut myself in

this emptional crap again

>

> she was first so called proper gf ,my last being 18 yrs before that

>

> yes i am bad without having gf but worse with emotionally

>

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Hey - your post is distressing to me - it feels like you are giving up. You

have to pursue TRT. I know you are worried about rage but if proper dosage is

maintained, that should not be an issue. Men can not function on such low levels

of T. It is required for so many things both physical and emotional. Being low

makes you want to curl up in a corner and not address the issue - we become very

passive which is where I think you currently are. Find the strength to go out

and get a Doc that will work with you and get your T levels back into the normal

range. Once you have done that, then make decisions about your personal life. We

all need companionship. Some need women some need men some need both. Some need

the sexual aspect some don't. Either way, take that step and get some help. You

have the potential to really turn your life around and no one is going to help

you do it but you.

I really hope you find the strength to do something about this - we are here

for a sounding board and support so keep posting. I wish you success - Arkansas

paul wey <promachief@...> wrote:

my girlfriend put me on hold about 3 weeks ago and has of yesterday

dumped me

so thats it my 1 year with a female has come to an end and idont intend to piut

myself in this emptional crap again

she was first so called proper gf ,my last being 18 yrs before that

yes i am bad without having gf but worse with emotionally

as for wanking i assumed till age of about 18 that pissing and ejacualtion were

same thing,i afaik never have had a wet dream or morning erections,but yes i can

ejaculate ,just i had no idea what that meant till at least 18 and any porno

mags i pissed on,and to this day have a very strong fetish for pissiong and like

porno with girls pissing.

now i will just go for masturbation only,girls are way too much trouble,it took

18yrs to get one that fancied me in first place at my weight and physical size

and looks,my behavoiurs,my emotional and sexual problems of not being

comfortable in sexual positions,size of equipmemnt and foreskin not being able

to move past my glans,well know all thats gone and dont intend to want it again

if i do go for trt its for the lethargy/concentration issues and not for sexual

functioning side.

the main thing for me is to get low testosterone confiemed as being a factor in

,my lifelong lethargy concetrations issues as well as my add/dysrpaxia and

aspergers.

it may still be dangerous for me with my emotioanal reaction problems to have

trt as it may make my rage attacks that conssit og throwning and breaking

things,shouting and scraming and crrying into actual things where i end up

hitting people,i have no idea what would be a normal range for me,as have never

had normal.

recognition of the problem is key thing,so at least to be able to tell our

benefits people inj uk of the additional problems i have preventing me from

working and so on

Re: New Subject-Age related

Elliot, I have been using the pump for many years and successfully until one

day I couldn't orgasm and that has been my problem now for 3 years, don't ask

me why. I don't know why, but it did. Then I started talking to guys on here

and decided I needed to check some things out which I am still doing.

You mean to tell me that you ejaculated when you were 18 or 19 and didn't

feel any pleasurable sensation? Wow and how about now? Yeah I am 83d

going on 84 and still want to get LAYED! Right now I am dead again because

I have an unbalance somewhere, will soon know. Hang in there your time

will come (sooner or later.) Later I hope...... Sounds like you have no sexual

sensations at all from what you said, impossible!

Roy

ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr (DOT) com> wrote:

No where near 80 but I'm curious in how your penis

just stopped functioning. .. I grew up without TRT and

I didn't have the sensation to touch myself nor did I

get regular erections but Im sure my penis worked. I

remember masturbating for the first time around 18 or

19 and finally seeing stuff come out but never felt a

pleasureable sensation.

Hey Roy, I hope your penis begins to work again. but

wow. still wanting to get laid at 80... The stories

you can tell and have been thru till now. Amazing...

--- Roy <chickenbirdtree> wrote:

> Hey Guys,

> I am still wondering if there is anyone out there

> that is 80 yrs or older in this group.

> I never did get an answer before so I will try

> again. Or is it that older guys just don't

> get on the computer or are too old to care whether

> they have sex or not, Ha!. I do

> still care as I lost it about 3 yrs ago and still

> miss it. Right now I have crashed as

> Phil likes to call it. I have nothing and feel

> nothing but am waiting on my last blood

> test to find out what happened. I know something

> sure did, I can't even ejaculate

> or want to at present. Let me hear if any of you

> are in my age group. I know that

> Noland is in his 70's but that doesn't count, Ha!

> Roy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

>

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hi dan no not giving up

the main thing i wanted and still want is to have my low testosterone checked

properley by a specialist and thats liekly to happen and be confirmend no doubnt

still as low.

i never had 100 per cwent chosen to go for any trt.if i do it will be a long way

off

i appreciate what you say,but remember i have neverr been normal so dont know

what normal is for me.

aslo you are not taking into account the fact the feeling i get from low

testosterone is also mirroeed by the add/dyspraxia and aspergers that also have

many of same symptoms,all are there,all mixed together trt may have very little

effect on me

in fact one of the problems of ADD etc is most things that work for most people

have differaning effects for those of us on the spectrum anything from aspirin

to anti depressants all working totally differant to the expected normal.

so trt could just as easily be the same,so its not a step i take lightly and

just go into blindly hoping it will have a good impact,as by doing that i may be

so dissapointed sand feel worse if it does not have that effect.

also even in regard to all need companion ship we aspies dont as a general

rule,yes we like certain aspects but my whole attitude is not likley to change

,i still may not be able to positon my self or be comfortable with intercourse

even with trt,i still will be aloof ,need my own space

i have 3 main frends who i genrlly only see once every 3 months or so and talk

to once every month to only one of the 3,i could not be with them more,it would

be too much,i only talk about my hobbies as they have sdame ,social chit chat

bores me.

re gf i never wanted to have kids or get married i cant cope with most things in

life,having a wash knackers me out,my parents have to tell me every month to

have a bath and push me to wash and so on,so my problems wont just go away

probably because of trt,it may help and may be worth trying but its not the only

reason to go to endo and urologist to make sure theb figures all add up.

where i currenlty am is same as all my life,and inded before pubety other kids

ran and played i just sat there and did not want to or have energy to do so.,so

testosterone low is part of problem but not all.

by getting the low testosteron recognised it means i have another thing to tell

the social services in uk to back my benefits up,wthout benefits i woukld not

survive.

i dont have any interest in working as work causes more problems than it solves

and i do not have the ability to work .

again trt wont suddenly change all of that,it may help in parts but may also

bearing in mind effects of other things be worse for me.

you have to look at it differant from your own situatiuon ,someone on autistic

spectrum is totally differant,if anyone on here is autistci/add/dyspraxic then

if they have had rage meltdown issues like me and as lethargi as me then yes by

all means tell me thats its ok.

thanls for help though,nothing is dismissed in terms of trying but one has to

for mine andsafety of others be so careful.

Re: New Subject-Age related

Hey - your post is distressing to me - it feels like you are giving up. You

have to pursue TRT. I know you are worried about rage but if proper dosage is

maintained, that should not be an issue. Men can not function on such low levels

of T. It is required for so many things both physical and emotional. Being low

makes you want to curl up in a corner and not address the issue - we become very

passive which is where I think you currently are. Find the strength to go out

and get a Doc that will work with you and get your T levels back into the normal

range. Once you have done that, then make decisions about your personal life. We

all need companionship. Some need women some need men some need both. Some need

the sexual aspect some don't. Either way, take that step and get some help. You

have the potential to really turn your life around and no one is going to help

you do it but you.

I really hope you find the strength to do something about this - we are here for

a sounding board and support so keep posting. I wish you success - Arkansas

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