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> I went to a new uro last week for a second opinion. This guy seems to

> be realy up on T replacement and Trimix. He gave me a script for 30-3-

> 30 that works well and is willing to work with local compounding RX to

> tweeak the dose.

> Anyway after an 1/2 hour with him he suggested that I join an upcoming

> T phase 3 trial for a new T coming to the US from Europe. 3 year study

> with shots only 5 times per year.

> Anyone heard of this? Or has someone in Europe tried this?

> Thanks

> Jack

>

Nebido, maybe? I would choose a well-established treatment over being

involved in a trial. Especially if the primary benefit (vs existing

treatments) is fewer injections.

Brad

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I went to a new uro last week for a second opinion. This guy seems to

be realy up on T replacement and Trimix. He gave me a script for 30-3-

30 that works well and is willing to work with local compounding RX to

tweeak the dose.

Anyway after an 1/2 hour with him he suggested that I join an upcoming

T phase 3 trial for a new T coming to the US from Europe. 3 year study

with shots only 5 times per year.

Anyone heard of this? Or has someone in Europe tried this?

Thanks

Jack

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I looked at the lit on this in 2004. One of

the published articles contained

graphs of testosterone levels that suggested to me

that the huge periods between shots were

too long and likely caused too wide of

swings in T levels as the depot shots were quite large.

Don't get me wrong, IF one COULD

take a depot shot every three weeks, it

might be as good as taking currently available

form T esters in depot shots every week as

far as controlling highs and lows.

So until they shorten the shot schedule to every

three weeks, I doubt it will be ready for

prime time. In my humble opinion.

> >

> > I went to a new uro last week for a second opinion. This guy

seems to

> > be realy up on T replacement and Trimix. He gave me a script for

30-3-

> > 30 that works well and is willing to work with local compounding

RX to

> > tweeak the dose.

> > Anyway after an 1/2 hour with him he suggested that I join an

upcoming

> > T phase 3 trial for a new T coming to the US from Europe. 3 year

study

> > with shots only 5 times per year.

> > Anyone heard of this? Or has someone in Europe tried this?

> > Thanks

> > Jack

> >

>

> Nebido, maybe? I would choose a well-established treatment over

being

> involved in a trial. Especially if the primary benefit (vs existing

> treatments) is fewer injections.

>

> Brad

>

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I talk to 6 men now in the UK that are on it and the swings are off the chart

lasting only 4 to 6 weeks driving up Estradiol looks to me like this will not go

far in the States. Nebido just does not cut it.

Phil

betaine_hcl <no_reply > wrote:

I looked at the lit on this in 2004. One of

the published articles contained

graphs of testosterone levels that suggested to me

that the huge periods between shots were

too long and likely caused too wide of

swings in T levels as the depot shots were quite large.

Don't get me wrong, IF one COULD

take a depot shot every three weeks, it

might be as good as taking currently available

form T esters in depot shots every week as

far as controlling highs and lows.

So until they shorten the shot schedule to every

three weeks, I doubt it will be ready for

prime time. In my humble opinion.

> >

> > I went to a new uro last week for a second opinion. This guy

seems to

> > be realy up on T replacement and Trimix. He gave me a script for

30-3-

> > 30 that works well and is willing to work with local compounding

RX to

> > tweeak the dose.

> > Anyway after an 1/2 hour with him he suggested that I join an

upcoming

> > T phase 3 trial for a new T coming to the US from Europe. 3 year

study

> > with shots only 5 times per year.

> > Anyone heard of this? Or has someone in Europe tried this?

> > Thanks

> > Jack

> >

>

> Nebido, maybe? I would choose a well-established treatment over

being

> involved in a trial. Especially if the primary benefit (vs existing

> treatments) is fewer injections.

>

> Brad

>

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If it is Nebido no stay away from it I talk to 6 men in the UK and they say it

is not good big swings and only works for 4 to 6 weeks. Then they get shot

again and this drives up there Estradiol and in the UK try to get them to test

for it let along give you something to get it down.

Phil

JACKPINNER <jpinner1@...> wrote:

I went to a new uro last week for a second opinion. This guy seems to

be realy up on T replacement and Trimix. He gave me a script for 30-3-

30 that works well and is willing to work with local compounding RX to

tweeak the dose.

Anyway after an 1/2 hour with him he suggested that I join an upcoming

T phase 3 trial for a new T coming to the US from Europe. 3 year study

with shots only 5 times per year.

Anyone heard of this? Or has someone in Europe tried this?

Thanks

Jack

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