Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 phil..if you have primary hypogonadism that means you have testicular failure right. so what does HCG do for you? it tells your testes to work but they're failing to begin with right? i know its so the testes don't go into full atrophy but how does HCG prevent that from happening if the testes don't work to begin with? Philip Georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 It is a mistery my levels before HCG were 650 adding HCG my levels went to 1287. I just had a MRI and nothing is wrong. Yet my testis and other cells are making T. Phil Jack <rockin813@...> wrote: phil..if you have primary hypogonadism that means you have testicular failure right. so what does HCG do for you? it tells your testes to work but they're failing to begin with right? i know its so the testes don't go into full atrophy but how does HCG prevent that from happening if the testes don't work to begin with? Philip Georgian wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine, especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically. Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something. Arkansas Philip Georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex Kissie Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday. Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine, especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically. Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something. Arkansas Philip Georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2 wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM. Phil kissie2004@... wrote: Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex Kissie Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday. Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine, especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically. Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something. Arkansas Philip Georgian wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able to answer that for you? philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2 wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM. Phil kissie2004@... wrote: Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex Kissie Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday. Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine, especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically. Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something. Arkansas Philip Georgian wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Sure some men convert the T meds they are on into E2 fast I am one of them. Phil Jack <rockin813@...> wrote: do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able to answer that for you? philip georgian wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2 wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM. Phil kissie2004@... wrote: Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex Kissie Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday. Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine, especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically. Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something. Arkansas Philip Georgian wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 if T is converting into E2 than whyare your T numbers still in the 1200. how does that work? once T is converted into E2 than do your T numbers still stay that high or should they lower? do the numbers change? philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Sure some men convert the T meds they are on into E2 fast I am one of them. Phil Jack <rockin813@...> wrote: do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able to answer that for you? philip georgian wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2 wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM. Phil kissie2004@... wrote: Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex Kissie Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday. Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine, especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically. Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something. Arkansas Philip Georgian wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I don't know. Phil Jack <rockin813@...> wrote: if T is converting into E2 than whyare your T numbers still in the 1200. how does that work? once T is converted into E2 than do your T numbers still stay that high or should they lower? do the numbers change? philip georgian wrote: Sure some men convert the T meds they are on into E2 fast I am one of them. Phil Jack wrote: do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able to answer that for you? philip georgian wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2 wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM. Phil kissie2004@... wrote: Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex Kissie Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday. Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine, especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically. Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something. Arkansas Philip Georgian wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM. I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on my E2. I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get back on the program. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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