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I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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phil..if you have primary hypogonadism that means you have testicular failure

right. so what does HCG do for you? it tells your testes to work but they're

failing to begin with right? i know its so the testes don't go into full

atrophy but how does HCG prevent that from happening if the testes don't work to

begin with?

Philip Georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I have been doing my T shots every

3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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It is a mistery my levels before HCG were 650 adding HCG my levels went to 1287.

I just had a MRI and nothing is wrong. Yet my testis and other cells are making

T.

Phil

Jack <rockin813@...> wrote:

phil..if you have primary hypogonadism that means you have testicular failure

right. so what does HCG do for you? it tells your testes to work but they're

failing to begin with right? i know its so the testes don't go into full atrophy

but how does HCG prevent that from happening if the testes don't work to begin

with?

Philip Georgian

wrote: I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine,

especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically.

Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something.

Arkansas

Philip Georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex

Kissie

Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday.

Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine,

especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically.

Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something.

Arkansas

Philip Georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2 wood

started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was not

back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the

morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now

that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood

came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing

the T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing

Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM.

Phil

kissie2004@... wrote:

Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex

Kissie

Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday.

Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine,

especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically.

Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something.

Arkansas

Philip Georgian

wrote:

I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low

cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able

to answer that for you?

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex

and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2 wood started coming back and I did not go

on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was not back strong enough. What a big

mistake when I did my next shot of T in the morning by that night my E2 jumped

way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now that I think about it I should have

gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood came back. This is a dam small

window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the T shots every 3 days for me is

helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing Arimidex everyday know I feel I

will get by on just Indolplex/DIM.

Phil

kissie2004@... wrote:

Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex

Kissie

Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday.

Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine,

especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically.

Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something.

Arkansas

Philip Georgian

wrote:

I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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Sure some men convert the T meds they are on into E2 fast I am one of them.

Phil

Jack <rockin813@...> wrote:

do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low

cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able

to answer that for you?

philip georgian

wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2

wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was

not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the

morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now

that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood

came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the

T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing

Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM.

Phil

kissie2004@... wrote:

Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex

Kissie

Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday.

Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine,

especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically.

Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something.

Arkansas

Philip Georgian

wrote:

I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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if T is converting into E2 than whyare your T numbers still in the 1200. how

does that work? once T is converted into E2 than do your T numbers still stay

that high or should they lower? do the numbers change?

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Sure some men convert the T meds

they are on into E2 fast I am one of them.

Phil

Jack <rockin813@...> wrote:

do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low

cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able

to answer that for you?

philip georgian

wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2

wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was

not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the

morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now

that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood

came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the

T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing

Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM.

Phil

kissie2004@... wrote:

Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex

Kissie

Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday.

Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine,

especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically.

Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something.

Arkansas

Philip Georgian

wrote:

I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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I don't know.

Phil

Jack <rockin813@...> wrote:

if T is converting into E2 than whyare your T numbers still in the 1200. how

does that work? once T is converted into E2 than do your T numbers still stay

that high or should they lower? do the numbers change?

philip georgian

wrote: Sure some men convert the T meds they are on into E2 fast I am one of

them.

Phil

Jack wrote:

do u know why your E2 is so difficult to manage? i know your T levels are low

cuz of primary hypoG...but why the quick conversion to E2. has anyone been able

to answer that for you?

philip georgian

wrote: I had stopped doing the Arimidex and Indolplex/DIM I was to low on E2

wood started coming back and I did not go on the Indolplex/DIM felt the wood was

not back strong enough. What a big mistake when I did my next shot of T in the

morning by that night my E2 jumped way up and I had to take a .5 Arimidex. Now

that I think about it I should have gone back on the Indolplex/DIM the day wood

came back. This is a dam small window to stay in and I missed it. Yet doing the

T shots every 3 days for me is helping keep my E2 down. Because I was doing

Arimidex everyday know I feel I will get by on just Indolplex/DIM.

Phil

kissie2004@... wrote:

Phil....Keep us informed on your E2 level if u stay off the Arimadex

Kissie

Re: Doing shots every 3 days and HCG everyday.

Hey Phil - Sorry to hear about your mother inlaw. I know I thrive on routine,

especially exercise and I feel so much better, both mentally and physically.

Keep us informed on the 3 day shots, I think you may be on to something.

Arkansas

Philip Georgian

wrote:

I have been doing my T shots every 3 days now for 3 weeks and my hcg

everyday for 6 weeks. My E2 has been a big problem I was having to

take Arimidex .5 to 1 mg everyday with Indolplex/DIM.

I feel the shots every 3 days did the job I have not taken any

Arimidex now for a week. I feel I need to stop the Indolplex/DIM

because I feel my E2 is now to low. I can't believe the turn around on

my E2.

I am still feeling dam good but because of the holidays and my mother

in law passing. I have not been eating good and going to the gym so

when I went to Weight Watcher today I gained 4.5 lbs. I need to get

back on the program.

Phil

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