Re: T 479, FreeT 98.0, E2 2.05 - Is This OK?

[Guest guest]

Need ranges and units. But if your units are the same as mine your E2 is to low

and your TT and FT are to low. You need your E2 between 10 to 30 pg/ml and your

TT and FT up in the upper 1/3 of your labs range for a young man. Read this

link it is all in there.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

I feel to get you levels up you need to do shots start at 100 mgs. every week

and when you get your levels up and stable add 250 IU's of HCG on the 5th and

6th days after your T shot. Doing this will bring your testis back up to a

normal size. Read this site. www.allthingsmale.com TRT: A Recipe for Success

and the HCG update.

Phil

flacorps <no_reply > wrote:

Using a compounded topical product with a little chrysin after

Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

These were the numbers:

T 479

FreeT 98.0

E2 2.05

Does anybody see a problem with that?

[Guest guest]

what are the ranges? also...do u feel good? if so than go with it.

flacorps <no_reply > wrote: Using a compounded topical product

with a little chrysin after

Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

These were the numbers:

T 479

FreeT 98.0

E2 2.05

Does anybody see a problem with that?

[Guest guest]

Hey flacorps - looks like you are in US units. The only one that looks out of

line is the E2 (2.05) Tyipical range for this is 10-50 so I can't say - you need

to post the ranges also. 479 total is respectible but not as high as some like

to run theirs. Most shoot for the upper third of the range so once again we

can't say without the ranges specified.

Arkansas

flacorps <no_reply > wrote:

Using a compounded topical product with a little chrysin after

Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

These were the numbers:

T 479

FreeT 98.0

E2 2.05

Does anybody see a problem with that?

[Guest guest]

WOW! If this gentleman is concerned about his free,

total, and E2 I'm really screwed!

Mine is 240, 42.5, and have no idea concerning E2.

--- philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

> Need ranges and units. But if your units are the

> same as mine your E2 is to low and your TT and FT

> are to low. You need your E2 between 10 to 30 pg/ml

> and your TT and FT up in the upper 1/3 of your labs

> range for a young man. Read this link it is all in

> there.

>

>

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

> I feel to get you levels up you need to do shots

> start at 100 mgs. every week and when you get your

> levels up and stable add 250 IU's of HCG on the 5th

> and 6th days after your T shot. Doing this will

> bring your testis back up to a normal size. Read

> this site. www.allthingsmale.com TRT: A Recipe for

> Success and the HCG update.

> Phil

>

>

> flacorps <no_reply > wrote:

> Using a compounded topical product with a little

> chrysin after

> Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

>

> These were the numbers:

> T 479

> FreeT 98.0

> E2 2.05

>

> Does anybody see a problem with that?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elliot once you get tuned up right you will be fine it takes time.

Phil

ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

WOW! If this gentleman is concerned about his free,

total, and E2 I'm really screwed!

Mine is 240, 42.5, and have no idea concerning E2.

--- philip georgian

wrote:

> Need ranges and units. But if your units are the

> same as mine your E2 is to low and your TT and FT

> are to low. You need your E2 between 10 to 30 pg/ml

> and your TT and FT up in the upper 1/3 of your labs

> range for a young man. Read this link it is all in

> there.

>

>

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

> I feel to get you levels up you need to do shots

> start at 100 mgs. every week and when you get your

> levels up and stable add 250 IU's of HCG on the 5th

> and 6th days after your T shot. Doing this will

> bring your testis back up to a normal size. Read

> this site. www.allthingsmale.com TRT: A Recipe for

> Success and the HCG update.

> Phil

>

>

> flacorps wrote:

> Using a compounded topical product with a little

> chrysin after

> Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

>

> These were the numbers:

> T 479

> FreeT 98.0

> E2 2.05

>

> Does anybody see a problem with that?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I feel good. I ride a 7 mile road loop on flat terrain on a mountain

bike most mornings ... takes about a half hour. I'm 6' and weigh

under 190 lbs. Sex is not as frequent as I would like, but it's OK.

Before the chrysin was added by the compounding pharmacist I would

occasionally feel weepy on the commercial preparations.

I just wonder if there are any potential consequences for having E2

driven down that low?

Using a compounded

topical product with a little chrysin after

> Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

>

> These were the numbers:

> T 479

> FreeT 98.0

> E2 2.05

>

> Does anybody see a problem with that?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If E2 goes to low you feel run down have brain fog and the worst you lose

morning wood and can't get it up. So what I do is us this as a gauge to not go

to low.

When wood stops I try to get it up if not I stop taking Arimidex until the wood

comes back. Then go back on it but take less. This works with DIM and Chrysin.

For me Arimidex is workng the best it is keeping my E2 and Total E's down.

Phil

flacorps <no_reply > wrote:

I feel good. I ride a 7 mile road loop on flat terrain on a mountain

bike most mornings ... takes about a half hour. I'm 6' and weigh

under 190 lbs. Sex is not as frequent as I would like, but it's OK.

Before the chrysin was added by the compounding pharmacist I would

occasionally feel weepy on the commercial preparations.

I just wonder if there are any potential consequences for having E2

driven down that low?

Using a compounded

topical product with a little chrysin after

> Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

>

> These were the numbers:

> T 479

> FreeT 98.0

> E2 2.05

>

> Does anybody see a problem with that?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As it turns out, E2 was 17 and I did not need my Chrysin reduced.

Someone at the doctor's office misread the test results and quoted

E2 as 2.05 when that was actually a number expressing the Free-T/T

ratio.

If you're at a GP's office, beware ... they may not be accustomed

to the kinds of test results a hypogonadism patient generates.

Using a compounded

> topical product with a little chrysin after

> > Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

> >

> > These were the numbers:

> > T 479

> > FreeT 98.0

> > E2 2.05

> >

> > Does anybody see a problem with that?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well you are at a good number I have talked to a lot of young men at other sites

that have normal E2 levels before TRT this low. Some Dr.'s think E2 should be

higher like 35 to 45 but I don't think so with high numbers like this I have big

problems.

Phil

flacorps <no_reply > wrote:

As it turns out, E2 was 17 and I did not need my Chrysin reduced.

Someone at the doctor's office misread the test results and quoted

E2 as 2.05 when that was actually a number expressing the Free-T/T

ratio.

If you're at a GP's office, beware ... they may not be accustomed

to the kinds of test results a hypogonadism patient generates.

Using a compounded

> topical product with a little chrysin after

> > Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

> >

> > These were the numbers:

> > T 479

> > FreeT 98.0

> > E2 2.05

> >

> > Does anybody see a problem with that?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

how old are you? isn't T at 479 a little low (assuming range max is 841). not

having much sex...by choice or ur situation (meaning no significant other). do

u have a libido?...morning wood? spontaneous erections?

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Well you are at a good number I have talked to a lot of young men at other

sites that have normal E2 levels before TRT this low. Some Dr.'s think E2

should be higher like 35 to 45 but I don't think so with high numbers like this

I have big problems.

Phil

flacorps <no_reply > wrote:

As it turns out, E2 was 17 and I did not need my Chrysin reduced.

Someone at the doctor's office misread the test results and quoted

E2 as 2.05 when that was actually a number expressing the Free-T/T

ratio.

If you're at a GP's office, beware ... they may not be accustomed

to the kinds of test results a hypogonadism patient generates.

Using a compounded

> topical product with a little chrysin after

> > Androgel & Testim both proved unsatisfactory.

> >

> > These were the numbers:

> > T 479

> > FreeT 98.0

> > E2 2.05

> >

> > Does anybody see a problem with that?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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