Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining erections - high or low E2?

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Dave the first thing I would try is to stop the Arimidex and see what happens

sounds to me like your on the low side. If in a week or sooner you don't see a

difference go back on it. It's dam hard to tell if your low or high. If your

high and you stop you will know in a week fast.

Phil

Dave <groups@...> wrote:

I've usually had high E2 problems in the past when that hormone was

out of whack. Even when it was triple or more the high limit for men,

I never had troubles ejaculating, and erections were usually not a big

problem.

Lately, I don't have a lot of trouble getting an erection, but it has

started taking me so long to ejaculate/orgasm that i get tired or

bored and generally lose my erection long before I am even close to

orgasming. Erections not nearly as hard or large as they used to be.

I'm also having a heck of a time with water retention. Even doubling

my Rx diurectic a coupld of times per sweek I still am puffy and

watery. I forgor my diuretic one weekend, and gained 8 pounds from

the retained water.

My nipples are not super sensitive, which high E2 usually causes for me.

Emotions are not too weepy, which is another high E2 sign for me in

the past.

So, it's a mixed set of signals.

I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

I'm not due for labs for a couple of months, but was thinking a

little experimentation with Arimidex dose might be revealing. Not

sure whether to try taking more or less as the best original titration

step.

Any suggestions? Phil? Anyone?

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Drat Phil! Wish I'd read your post 15 mins ago! I just took a bit extra

Arimidex...guess we'll see what happens. In hindsight, I think you're

right, I am probably low...means things are going to get worse before they

get better at this point. :-(

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of philip georgian

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Dave the first thing I would try is to stop the Arimidex and see what

happens sounds to me like your on the low side. If in a week or sooner you

don't see a difference go back on it. It's dam hard to tell if your low or

high. If your high and you stop you will know in a week fast.

Phil

Dave <groupssocal (DOT) <mailto:groups%40socal.rr.com> rr.com> wrote:

I've usually had high E2 problems in the past when that hormone was

out of whack. Even when it was triple or more the high limit for men,

I never had troubles ejaculating, and erections were usually not a big

problem.

Lately, I don't have a lot of trouble getting an erection, but it has

started taking me so long to ejaculate/orgasm that i get tired or

bored and generally lose my erection long before I am even close to

orgasming. Erections not nearly as hard or large as they used to be.

I'm also having a heck of a time with water retention. Even doubling

my Rx diurectic a coupld of times per sweek I still am puffy and

watery. I forgor my diuretic one weekend, and gained 8 pounds from

the retained water.

My nipples are not super sensitive, which high E2 usually causes for me.

Emotions are not too weepy, which is another high E2 sign for me in

the past.

So, it's a mixed set of signals.

I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

I'm not due for labs for a couple of months, but was thinking a

little experimentation with Arimidex dose might be revealing. Not

sure whether to try taking more or less as the best original titration

step.

Any suggestions? Phil? Anyone?

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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:21:01 -0800, you wrote:

>I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

>days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

>

>I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

When E2 is too low, it deadens response. Someone described their low

E2 as turning a blow job into the equivalent of shaking hands. Knock

off the arimidex for a week to 10 days and see if things come back.

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power to make you commit atrocities. " - Voltaire

[Guest guest]

Yeah, that's good information about turning a blow job into a

handshake...LOL.

I screwed up and took a bigger dose of Arimidex this morning...I'll at the

very least skip my next dose and go from there.

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of retrogrouch@...

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:48 AM

Subject: Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:21:01 -0800, you wrote:

>I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

>days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

>

>I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

When E2 is too low, it deadens response. Someone described their low

E2 as turning a blow job into the equivalent of shaking hands. Knock

off the arimidex for a week to 10 days and see if things come back.

-----

" Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the

power to make you commit atrocities. " - Voltaire

[Guest guest]

I think what had me leaning towards the high E2 side of the problem here is

the heavy water retention and edema I've been having. Will low E2 cause

that as well?

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Dave

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:16 AM

Subject: RE: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Drat Phil! Wish I'd read your post 15 mins ago! I just took a bit extra

Arimidex...guess we'll see what happens. In hindsight, I think you're

right, I am probably low...means things are going to get worse before they

get better at this point. :-(

_____

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On Behalf Of philip georgian

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:51 AM

@ <mailto: %40>

Subject: Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Dave the first thing I would try is to stop the Arimidex and see what

happens sounds to me like your on the low side. If in a week or sooner you

don't see a difference go back on it. It's dam hard to tell if your low or

high. If your high and you stop you will know in a week fast.

Phil

Dave <groupssocal (DOT) <mailto:groups%40socal.rr.com> rr.com> wrote:

I've usually had high E2 problems in the past when that hormone was

out of whack. Even when it was triple or more the high limit for men,

I never had troubles ejaculating, and erections were usually not a big

problem.

Lately, I don't have a lot of trouble getting an erection, but it has

started taking me so long to ejaculate/orgasm that i get tired or

bored and generally lose my erection long before I am even close to

orgasming. Erections not nearly as hard or large as they used to be.

I'm also having a heck of a time with water retention. Even doubling

my Rx diurectic a coupld of times per sweek I still am puffy and

watery. I forgor my diuretic one weekend, and gained 8 pounds from

the retained water.

My nipples are not super sensitive, which high E2 usually causes for me.

Emotions are not too weepy, which is another high E2 sign for me in

the past.

So, it's a mixed set of signals.

I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

I'm not due for labs for a couple of months, but was thinking a

little experimentation with Arimidex dose might be revealing. Not

sure whether to try taking more or less as the best original titration

step.

Any suggestions? Phil? Anyone?

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[Guest guest]

Don't feel bad I have been at this and still can't tell the difference untill I

got way up or way down. If your going low you can't get it up taking Viagra so

see if you can get it up tomorrow morning. If not then your to low. And if you

are just stop when wood comes back go back on it but do less. I can come back

from to low in 48 hrs. it's when you low for a long time then it takes a good 3

to 4 weeks to get back up.

Phil

Dave <groups@...> wrote:

Drat Phil! Wish I'd read your post 15 mins ago! I just took a bit

extra

Arimidex...guess we'll see what happens. In hindsight, I think you're

right, I am probably low...means things are going to get worse before they

get better at this point. :-(

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of philip georgian

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Dave the first thing I would try is to stop the Arimidex and see what

happens sounds to me like your on the low side. If in a week or sooner you

don't see a difference go back on it. It's dam hard to tell if your low or

high. If your high and you stop you will know in a week fast.

Phil

Dave <groupssocal (DOT) <mailto:groups%40socal.rr.com> rr.com> wrote:

I've usually had high E2 problems in the past when that hormone was

out of whack. Even when it was triple or more the high limit for men,

I never had troubles ejaculating, and erections were usually not a big

problem.

Lately, I don't have a lot of trouble getting an erection, but it has

started taking me so long to ejaculate/orgasm that i get tired or

bored and generally lose my erection long before I am even close to

orgasming. Erections not nearly as hard or large as they used to be.

I'm also having a heck of a time with water retention. Even doubling

my Rx diurectic a coupld of times per sweek I still am puffy and

watery. I forgor my diuretic one weekend, and gained 8 pounds from

the retained water.

My nipples are not super sensitive, which high E2 usually causes for me.

Emotions are not too weepy, which is another high E2 sign for me in

the past.

So, it's a mixed set of signals.

I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

I'm not due for labs for a couple of months, but was thinking a

little experimentation with Arimidex dose might be revealing. Not

sure whether to try taking more or less as the best original titration

step.

Any suggestions? Phil? Anyone?

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[Guest guest]

I can't say I started using 1/2 tsp full of Sea Salt and this helps get rid of

the water. I think my T meds make me hold water.

Phil

Dave <groups@...> wrote:

I think what had me leaning towards the high E2 side of the problem

here is

the heavy water retention and edema I've been having. Will low E2 cause

that as well?

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Dave

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:16 AM

Subject: RE: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Drat Phil! Wish I'd read your post 15 mins ago! I just took a bit extra

Arimidex...guess we'll see what happens. In hindsight, I think you're

right, I am probably low...means things are going to get worse before they

get better at this point. :-(

_____

From: @ <mailto: %40>

[mailto: @

<mailto: %40> ]

On Behalf Of philip georgian

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:51 AM

@ <mailto: %40>

Subject: Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Dave the first thing I would try is to stop the Arimidex and see what

happens sounds to me like your on the low side. If in a week or sooner you

don't see a difference go back on it. It's dam hard to tell if your low or

high. If your high and you stop you will know in a week fast.

Phil

Dave <groupssocal (DOT) <mailto:groups%40socal.rr.com> rr.com> wrote:

I've usually had high E2 problems in the past when that hormone was

out of whack. Even when it was triple or more the high limit for men,

I never had troubles ejaculating, and erections were usually not a big

problem.

Lately, I don't have a lot of trouble getting an erection, but it has

started taking me so long to ejaculate/orgasm that i get tired or

bored and generally lose my erection long before I am even close to

orgasming. Erections not nearly as hard or large as they used to be.

I'm also having a heck of a time with water retention. Even doubling

my Rx diurectic a coupld of times per sweek I still am puffy and

watery. I forgor my diuretic one weekend, and gained 8 pounds from

the retained water.

My nipples are not super sensitive, which high E2 usually causes for me.

Emotions are not too weepy, which is another high E2 sign for me in

the past.

So, it's a mixed set of signals.

I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

I'm not due for labs for a couple of months, but was thinking a

little experimentation with Arimidex dose might be revealing. Not

sure whether to try taking more or less as the best original titration

step.

Any suggestions? Phil? Anyone?

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[Guest guest]

what is Arimidex

Dave <groups@...> wrote: Drat Phil! Wish I'd read your post 15

mins ago! I just took a bit extra

Arimidex...guess we'll see what happens. In hindsight, I think you're

right, I am probably low...means things are going to get worse before they

get better at this point. :-(

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of philip georgian

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Dave the first thing I would try is to stop the Arimidex and see what

happens sounds to me like your on the low side. If in a week or sooner you

don't see a difference go back on it. It's dam hard to tell if your low or

high. If your high and you stop you will know in a week fast.

Phil

Dave <groupssocal (DOT) <mailto:groups%40socal.rr.com> rr.com> wrote:

I've usually had high E2 problems in the past when that hormone was

out of whack. Even when it was triple or more the high limit for men,

I never had troubles ejaculating, and erections were usually not a big

problem.

Lately, I don't have a lot of trouble getting an erection, but it has

started taking me so long to ejaculate/orgasm that i get tired or

bored and generally lose my erection long before I am even close to

orgasming. Erections not nearly as hard or large as they used to be.

I'm also having a heck of a time with water retention. Even doubling

my Rx diurectic a coupld of times per sweek I still am puffy and

watery. I forgor my diuretic one weekend, and gained 8 pounds from

the retained water.

My nipples are not super sensitive, which high E2 usually causes for me.

Emotions are not too weepy, which is another high E2 sign for me in

the past.

So, it's a mixed set of signals.

I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

I'm not due for labs for a couple of months, but was thinking a

little experimentation with Arimidex dose might be revealing. Not

sure whether to try taking more or less as the best original titration

step.

Any suggestions? Phil? Anyone?

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[Guest guest]

Here is a link to a study I did yrs. ago.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & lr= & ie=ISO-8859-1 & q=%2Barimidex+%2Blowering+e\

strogen+%2Bmen & btnG=Google+Search

Phil

Joe Brown <jns0205jns0205@...> wrote:

what is Arimidex

Dave <groups@...> wrote: Drat Phil! Wish I'd read your post 15 mins

ago! I just took a bit extra

Arimidex...guess we'll see what happens. In hindsight, I think you're

right, I am probably low...means things are going to get worse before they

get better at this point. :-(

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of philip georgian

Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: Difficulty ejaculating/orgasming and maintaining

erections - high or low E2?

Dave the first thing I would try is to stop the Arimidex and see what

happens sounds to me like your on the low side. If in a week or sooner you

don't see a difference go back on it. It's dam hard to tell if your low or

high. If your high and you stop you will know in a week fast.

Phil

Dave <groupssocal (DOT) <mailto:groups%40socal.rr.com> rr.com> wrote:

I've usually had high E2 problems in the past when that hormone was

out of whack. Even when it was triple or more the high limit for men,

I never had troubles ejaculating, and erections were usually not a big

problem.

Lately, I don't have a lot of trouble getting an erection, but it has

started taking me so long to ejaculate/orgasm that i get tired or

bored and generally lose my erection long before I am even close to

orgasming. Erections not nearly as hard or large as they used to be.

I'm also having a heck of a time with water retention. Even doubling

my Rx diurectic a coupld of times per sweek I still am puffy and

watery. I forgor my diuretic one weekend, and gained 8 pounds from

the retained water.

My nipples are not super sensitive, which high E2 usually causes for me.

Emotions are not too weepy, which is another high E2 sign for me in

the past.

So, it's a mixed set of signals.

I take 40mg cypionate every three days, and 1/2 Arimidex every three

days, plus the HCG protocol the day before the cypionate.

I'm curious if the symptoms sound like high or low E2 is more likely.

I'm not due for labs for a couple of months, but was thinking a

little experimentation with Arimidex dose might be revealing. Not

sure whether to try taking more or less as the best original titration

step.

Any suggestions? Phil? Anyone?

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[Guest guest]

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:23:17 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>

>what is Arimidex

Arimidex is an aromotase blocker. T converts to E2, especially when T

levels get higher. Aromotase is an enzyme that works the conversion.

Arimidex locks onto aromotase and keeps it from converting T to E2.

This helps lower E2 levels substantially.

It is a prescription drug and with many doctors takes some convincing

to get a prescription. (The drug is actually made to block E2

production in breast cancer patients. )

It is a very powerful drug and takes some doing to get the hang of. I

take quarter tablets a few times a week. But it makes a big

difference in the lives of most of us.

>

>Dave <groups@...> wrote: Drat Phil! Wish I'd read your post

15 mins ago! I just took a bit extra

>Arimidex...guess we'll see what happens. In hindsight, I think you're

>right, I am probably low...means things are going to get worse before they

>get better at this point. :-(

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" Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the

power to make you commit atrocities. " - Voltaire