Re: Re: stage 3 or 4 squamous cell carcinoma

[Guest guest]

I owe this group a huge thanks. Most of you likely didn't know I was on

this list as I have been reeling in shock and dismay as you all likely

have done in your own turn. So I know you'll understand when I say I

was a little shy about jumping right in with an introduction when I

joined this group. Here's the rest of the story, I hope I don't leave

anything out.

In October I was informed that I had been diagnosed with squamous cell

carcinoma, primary cervical, and that it was already stage 3 or 4,

diagnosed from a pap smear. They wanted to rush me into a biopsy but

when I went to the biopsy appointment I walked out without submitting to

the biopsy due to not liking their spiel. It didn't make sense on too

many levels. I went to another county and had another exam without

telling them that I'd already had that diagnosis from a pap in September.

When I had the first diagnosis I talked a friend and fellow listmember

to whom I will always be grateful because she referred me to this list.

After reading comments on this list and contacting a few of you offlist

and offline and in person, and after doing quite a bit of research,

actually still ongoing, within a few days of receiving that horrific dx

last month I began a kitchen sink approach. If I read a few accounts of

it curing cancer or even possibly curing some kind of cancer and if I

found an explanation of just how the protocol might cause the death of a

cancer cell or a tumor, what kind and how strong of a reaction I might

expect as a side effect, and if it seemed unlikely to harm me, then I

attempted at least some form of that protocol. At the beginning of this

a friend of my DH had been killed in a plane crash out west and we were

planning to attend the funeral several states away. I did not want a

Herxheimer reaction setting in while I was in the middle of a nonstop

1,000 mile drive so I did about a one third dose of hydrogen peroxide

therapy(on an empty stomach), upped my colloidal silver daily dose, and

as well upped my vitamin C dose to 4 500 mg tabs a day. I ate a much

greater concentration of antioxidant foods, and selected carefully

anything organically produced and /or high antioxidant in content. I

read with great interest and great horror of the capsaicin protocols but

since I was facing such a dx, I decided I could do almost anything for

two weeks,...even eat habaneros! (We had just determined never to grow

those hot mamas again! Oopps, ...change of plan!) I did not begin the

capsaicin 'protocol' in earnest until we arrived back, though I did

select foods with a high concentration of jalapenos, or ordered them on

the side, and ran out of habaneros after only a few days so finished up

with jalapenos. When my Tsiago order arrived I began that protocol as

well! Need I add that I also 'brought in' a select group of prayer

warriors?

The second one was early this month, and when I got the results, they

had found only a little inflamation but no cancer, and no other disease

of any type. With my recent dx history they wanted to go ahead and do a

culposcopy, and if they saw anything abnormal at that time they would do

a biopsy. We went in the day before Turkey Day. They found two spots,

and did do the biopsy. Today I had the phone call ---there was no

cancer, and no other disease of any kind, merely a tiny bit of

inflammation. I know this 'presentation' is not very scientific in

nature, but something seems to have worked. The doctor is mystified.

(I didn't tell her what I was doing. I didn't figure she'd support my

'protocols'.) She is saying that my original slides must have been

contaminated with someone else's or mislabeled or something. She said

it does happen way more often than anyone wants to admit. I told her a

little about what I'd been learning about curcurmin and capsaicin

protocol studies currently underway, to encourage her to at least hint

to any other patient with such a diagnosis.

I still haven't told her what I actually did. I'm waiting for them to

look into how they think it is possible to have such an advanced stage

and less than 60 days later ...nothing! I'm supposed to go back in 6

months for another follow up exam. Tonight I restocked my supplies with

more sprouting seed, more sprouting jar tops, and more food grade h2o2,

and a celebratory supper of burritos stuffed with alfalfa sprouts, sour

cream from our own dairy goat herd, our own grass fed beef, and lots of

jalapenos, and a chaser of Tsiaga 'tea'!

Oh,...and I saved some habanero seeds to start more pepper plants soon!

So, life goes on and I'm looking at ways to work more exercise into my

daily schedule, ...and at those longer term projects around the

homestead again!

[Guest guest]

Congrats, . I know you are doing backflips and cartwheels. LOL.. I

would be if I were you. I am soooo happy for you. What good news.

Could you share with us all, your protocol? Dosages/ brand names/sources

etc. I know it is a lot of trouble and takes time to list it all but I

would love to peruse it and maybe try some new things.

Again.. God Bless and continued good health. Lola

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010, Homestead Springsberry wrote:

> I owe this group a huge thanks. Most of you likely didn't know I was on

> this list as I have been reeling in shock and dismay as you all likely

> have done in your own turn. So I know you'll understand when I say I

> was a little shy about jumping right in with an introduction when I

> joined this group. Here's the rest of the story, I hope I don't leave

> anything out.

>

> In October I was informed that I had been diagnosed with squamous cell

> carcinoma, primary cervical, and that it was already stage 3 or 4,

> diagnosed from a pap smear. They wanted to rush me into a biopsy but

> when I went to the biopsy appointment I walked out without submitting to

> the biopsy due to not liking their spiel. It didn't make sense on too

> many levels. I went to another county and had another exam without

> telling them that I'd already had that diagnosis from a pap in September.

>

> When I had the first diagnosis I talked a friend and fellow listmember

> to whom I will always be grateful because she referred me to this list.

> After reading comments on this list and contacting a few of you offlist

> and offline and in person, and after doing quite a bit of research,

> actually still ongoing, within a few days of receiving that horrific dx

> last month I began a kitchen sink approach. If I read a few accounts of

> it curing cancer or even possibly curing some kind of cancer and if I

> found an explanation of just how the protocol might cause the death of a

> cancer cell or a tumor, what kind and how strong of a reaction I might

> expect as a side effect, and if it seemed unlikely to harm me, then I

> attempted at least some form of that protocol. At the beginning of this

> a friend of my DH had been killed in a plane crash out west and we were

> planning to attend the funeral several states away. I did not want a

> Herxheimer reaction setting in while I was in the middle of a nonstop

> 1,000 mile drive so I did about a one third dose of hydrogen peroxide

> therapy(on an empty stomach), upped my colloidal silver daily dose, and

> as well upped my vitamin C dose to 4 500 mg tabs a day. I ate a much

> greater concentration of antioxidant foods, and selected carefully

> anything organically produced and /or high antioxidant in content. I

> read with great interest and great horror of the capsaicin protocols but

> since I was facing such a dx, I decided I could do almost anything for

> two weeks,...even eat habaneros! (We had just determined never to grow

> those hot mamas again! Oopps, ...change of plan!) I did not begin the

> capsaicin 'protocol' in earnest until we arrived back, though I did

> select foods with a high concentration of jalapenos, or ordered them on

> the side, and ran out of habaneros after only a few days so finished up

> with jalapenos. When my Tsiago order arrived I began that protocol as

> well! Need I add that I also 'brought in' a select group of prayer

> warriors?

>

> The second one was early this month, and when I got the results, they

> had found only a little inflamation but no cancer, and no other disease

> of any type. With my recent dx history they wanted to go ahead and do a

> culposcopy, and if they saw anything abnormal at that time they would do

> a biopsy. We went in the day before Turkey Day. They found two spots,

> and did do the biopsy. Today I had the phone call ---there was no

> cancer, and no other disease of any kind, merely a tiny bit of

> inflammation. I know this 'presentation' is not very scientific in

> nature, but something seems to have worked. The doctor is mystified.

> (I didn't tell her what I was doing. I didn't figure she'd support my

> 'protocols'.) She is saying that my original slides must have been

> contaminated with someone else's or mislabeled or something. She said

> it does happen way more often than anyone wants to admit. I told her a

> little about what I'd been learning about curcurmin and capsaicin

> protocol studies currently underway, to encourage her to at least hint

> to any other patient with such a diagnosis.

>

> I still haven't told her what I actually did. I'm waiting for them to

> look into how they think it is possible to have such an advanced stage

> and less than 60 days later ...nothing! I'm supposed to go back in 6

> months for another follow up exam. Tonight I restocked my supplies with

> more sprouting seed, more sprouting jar tops, and more food grade h2o2,

> and a celebratory supper of burritos stuffed with alfalfa sprouts, sour

> cream from our own dairy goat herd, our own grass fed beef, and lots of

> jalapenos, and a chaser of Tsiaga 'tea'!

>

> Oh,...and I saved some habanero seeds to start more pepper plants soon!

> So, life goes on and I'm looking at ways to work more exercise into my

> daily schedule, ...and at those longer term projects around the

> homestead again!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Would you like that info now or should I wait till I have more

information about how I came to have such a dx?

What do you think the first doctor will say about how it happened and

then about my 'protocols' and finally about how I could have zero cancer

cells throughout

4-5 different kinds of tests about 8 or so weeks after that first exam?

I would like my experience to be the norm for any cancer patient in

future.

Or maybe I should grow a whole farm full of habaneros as they may be

special cancer cures when grown on my little homestead like mine were? ;-)

phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

>

> Congrats, . I know you are doing backflips and cartwheels. LOL.. I

> would be if I were you. I am soooo happy for you. What good news.

> Could you share with us all, your protocol? Dosages/ brand names/sources

> etc. I know it is a lot of trouble and takes time to list it all but I

> would love to peruse it and maybe try some new things.

> Again.. God Bless and continued good health. Lola

> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010, Homestead Springsberry wrote:

> [Excerpts of previous message]

>> I owe this group a huge thanks........

>> In October I was informed that I had been diagnosed with squamous cell

>> carcinoma, primary cervical, and that it was already stage 3 or 4,

>> diagnosed from a pap smear. They wanted to rush me into a biopsy but

>> when I went to the biopsy appointment I walked out without submitting to

>> the biopsy due to not liking their spiel. It didn't make sense on too

>> many levels. I went to another county and had another exam without

>> telling them that I'd already had that diagnosis from a pap in September.

>>

>> ....I did about a one third dose of hydrogen peroxide therapy(on an empty

stomach), upped my colloidal silver daily dose, and as well upped my vitamin C

dose to 4 500 mg tabs a day. I ate a much

>> greater concentration of antioxidant foods, and selected carefully

>> anything organically produced and /or high antioxidant in content. ....I

decided I could do almost anything for two weeks,...even eat habaneros!

.....finished up with jalapenos. When my Tsiago order arrived I began that

protocol as well! Need I add that I also 'brought in' a select group of prayer

warriors?

>>

>> ....when I got the results, they had found only a little inflamation but no

cancer, and no other disease of any type.

...... Tonight I restocked my supplies with more sprouting seed, more sprouting

jar tops, and more food grade h2o2, and a celebratory supper of burritos stuffed

with alfalfa sprouts, sour cream from our own dairy goat herd, our own grass fed

beef, and lots of jalapenos, and a chaser of Tsiaga 'tea'!.............

[Guest guest]

That's one of the many reasons I was sooo suspicious of the diagnosis.

There is something rotten in the health system in my county, from past

experience as well as from this one. I'm not sure of exactly how to

proceed but thought I'd start by joining the forum they set up for the

patients to 'manage their own health care' and see what I can do there

first.

arlynsg wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> I would like to hear more about how you came to have this diagnosis. I

confess, I did a little googling to try to find out how a late stage cervical

cancer is diagnosed.

> All I know is that a pap isn't able to diagnose cancer completely, nor can it

determine stage. That's why a biopsy is needed to determine if it is really

cancer. So, without the biopsy, I don't know if you have cancer or an infection.

And, I really don't understand how stage is determined, but I know it isn't

through a pap.

> If you had an infection, and the doctor told you it was later stage cancer,

then he needs to be reported to someone.

> Do you have copies of your pathology reports? You should always get copies of

your pathology reports. I would like to know exactly what's on them.

> Either way, whatever it is you had, I'm glad it's gone.

> ar

>

>

>> Would you like that info now or should I wait till I have more

>> information about how I came to have such a dx?

>> What do you think the first doctor will say about how it happened and

>> then about my 'protocols' and finally about how I could have zero cancer

>> cells throughout

>> 4-5 different kinds of tests about 8 or so weeks after that first exam?

>>

>> I would like my experience to be the norm for any cancer patient in

>> future.

>>

>> Or maybe I should grow a whole farm full of habaneros as they may be

>> special cancer cures when grown on my little homestead like mine were? ;-)

>>

>>

>