For Joe C. & everybody else re fasting

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Here's a great webpage on fasting:

http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=Article & ID=496

Also, I copied and pasted this info which backs me up re fasting &

gallstones:

" Sudden loss of weight: In conditions where there is a sudden loss of

weight, while metabolizing fat the body causes the liver to secrete

extra cholesterol into bile, which in turn could lead to gallstone

formation.

Fasting: Frequent episodes of fasting causes a decrease in the movement

of the gallbladder leading to an over concentration of cholesterol,

which increases ones risk of developing gallstones. "

I still urge extreme caution when fasting, as it throws the body into an

unnatural state. If you want to be your own guinea pig, as I did, then

don't say I didn't warn you. And though I didn't have just water, the

extremely restrictive " diet " as you call it, still felt (and was) like

no food to me. I had had absolutely no gallbladder complaints before

the fast.

Ellen

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What is of interest in that piece, like almost everything else we read is

that there is always a measure of accuracy in all of them.

I looked at the references at the bottom of the piece and was not impressed.

Keep in mind, when I fasted during the ice age, really mean long ago, I

fasted under the supervision of the then and probably still, fasting expert.

When you went to The Ranch, it was rare not to fast.

My mother fasted under another well-known practitioner in Florida, at

Esser's place.

You didn't take drugs and, in fact, when you entered Shelton's, no matter

what the condition, your pills were tossed away.

The daily routine at Shelton's was a morning visit by Herbert himself, you

stuck out your tongue and as long as there was coating, you continued

fasting. When the tongue was clear, you stopped. There were other

causes for stopping the fast and even my mother was only allowed to fast 16

days. Why? She was a tiny person to begin with and while not emaciated

before the fast, would have been if continued. I was hardly emaciated

before and even after 30 days was just a skinny, skinny person.

My mother never developed gallstones and it took 30+ years for me to develop

them. How many people do you know with gallbladder problems also fasted?

I suspect that most of us have never met another person that fasted for any

length of time, if at all, and know many people that have developed

stones--that never fasted. I suppose that there might be some people that

might develop gallstones after fasting, but how do we connect this if it is

only a few?

The article gets into blood tests and why? Blood test standards have been

developed from studying sick people (just about everyone), not the truly

healthy. Do we trust the standard for Vitamin D sufficiency? According to

a blood test my low 14.8 reading is just insufficiency according to the

standards, not a sign of being deficient. The physician didn't even

discuss it with me. Why? He doesn't know the first thing about it, that's

why. I didn't bring it up either.

The site also speaks to bed rest not being ideal. Does it also think it is

OK to go on with every other enervating condition we face in life? Here is

how Shelton and others explain it.

'Fasting is complete physiological rest. No food to digest using up nerve

energy and no toxins left over from meals. No improperly digested food to

putrefy and cause more enervation. No physical activity to also drain the

energy the body needs to do what you are fasting for in the first place.

Certainly avoiding the emotional drains we face on a daily basis and the

more you think out these reasons, the more you understand the seriousness of

Fasting. Check the animals fasting. They lie in a corner or under a bush,

do nothing but maybe sip some water as needed. This is why attaining

health, no matter what protocol, requires a dedication and effort not easily

displayed. Fasting for most illnesses is one of the easiest to do except

if one needs to function on a daily basis. To repeat my earlier stand- I

will not fast for cancer unless I believe I'm terminal and want the least

suffering way to expire. Terrible though but good to know I have that as my

own personal Kervorkian protocol.

Joe C.

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Joe, Ellen and Bob

Many thanks for adding to my knowledge.

Chamberlain