Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 Hi Everyone, Haven't been on much. Very tired and busy with support group, secretary for lyme, you know the usual stuff. Anyway have you see the movie " AND THE BAND PLAYED ON " It is excellent it is the story of AIDS, and all the BS that went on while those people were dying. When someone tells me we aren't doing enough, I always ask them to watch it. Gere is in it. It really hits home with the struggle with Lyme. I care Very Deeply for all of those suffering this disease. Hugs, a lot, Connie, MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 1999 Report Share Posted May 3, 1999 Cslyme@... writes: > " AND THE BAND PLAYED ON " It is excellent it > is the story of AIDS, and all the BS that went on while those people were > dying. When someone tells me we aren't doing enough, I always ask them to > watch it. Hi Connie, I've been saying since the beginning just how close the two stories are as far as cover up and our government handling of an epidemic. Here are the reviews of Randy's book. He died a few years ago from AIDS but he was a legitimate reporter for the SF Chronicle. He was right there and documented what happened including tainted blood supply. I call the Lyme cover-up ---- " And the Band Played On - Part ll " The WORST PART of all this for us is there are no more Randy Shilts to expose our story. <long sigh> You can buy his book, which I did, buy or rent the video. I've watched it at least 10 times and I still cry at the end. Know what I mean? Marleen Reviews Amazon.com In the first major book on AIDS, San Francisco Chronicle reporter Randy Shilts examines the making of an epidemic. Shilts researched and reported the book exhaustively, chronicling almost day-by-day the first five years of AIDS. His work is critical of the medical and scientific communities' initial response and particularly harsh on the Reagan Administration, who he claims cut funding, ignored calls for action and deliberately misled Congress. Shilts doesn't stop there, wondering why more people in the gay community, the mass media and the country at large didn't stand up in anger more quickly. The AIDS pandemic is one of the most striking developments of the late 20th century and this is the definitive story of its beginnings. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. The New York Times Book Review, H. Jack Geiger And the Band Played On is about the kind of people we have been for the past seven years. That is its terror, and its strength. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. Synopsis The basis of an HBO movie, starring Modine, Gere, Alan Alda, and Lily Tomlin, this " heroic work of journalism " (New York Times) reveals how the federal govrenment put budget considerations ahead of the nation's welfare. Synopsis An examination of the biggest health crisis of the twentieth century exposes the federal government for its inaction, health authorities for their greed, and scientists for their desire for prestige during the AIDS pandemic. Reprint. TV tie-in. NYT. -- Synopsis The basis of an HBO movie, starring Modine, Gere, Alan Alda, and Lily Tomlin, this " heroic work of journalism " (New York Times) reveals how the federal govrenment put budget considerations ahead of the nation's welfare. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Customer Comments Average Customer Review: Number of Reviews: 10 Dino Surendran (dinoj@...) from Johannesburg, South Africa , April 11, 1999 How come this didn't get a Pullitzer? When I picked this book from the shelf and looked at the back cover, I was naturally met by comments from reviewers telling me that it was the greatest thing since the flush toilet. Having firmly resolved to disbelieve them, I bought the book on the grounds that I was curious about AIDS. To my utter shock I found that the reviewers for once hadn't been bribed --- I had picked up something special. This books shakes you so much that you don't even notice that you're a different person when you've read it. I used to believe in institutions, both scientific and government. They somehow 'ran', and 'worked'. They might be slow and lumbering, but things somehow got done. Shilts ripped this idea apart. Some of the incidents detailed in this book: 1. The White House says government institutions don't need more money to fight AIDS, even when Congress wants to give it to them and the scientists are screaming for it. The House invents figures. It lies. Not just around 1981, when AIDS was just starting and the policy had some element of reason lurking somewhere, but even five years later, when everyone knew there was a problem and governments in other countries were doing things. 2. Gay community leaders, far from being united when faced with such a threat, instead bicker about how to tell their members to stop screwing around. 3. The media pays little attention to AIDS as long as most of its victims are gay, because 'the public wouldn't be interested in it'. But who defines what the public is interested in? Is it not the media? And if not, why was the US press so insistent on getting the American public hooked on the pubic intricacies of Clinton on 1998? 4. Some scientists discover the AIDS virus. A rival scientist, an excellent one in his own right, belittles their work and persuades journals not to publish it until he gets the same results himself. 5. Federal officials know the facts and don't say them, in loyalty to orders from above. Sometimes they say the opposite. Never again will I assume organisations are trustworthy or always know what they're doing. But I will also remember the many stories in this book of normal people who took action themselves to do what they could at a local level, and shouted and shouted till those with more resources took action. The chief question is how much hindsight affected the book's writing AND affects its reading. Most of the people criticised for inaction were no less human than those who railed at them. Very few saw, no, understood, what the disease would become as a global phenomenon. It's just that some saw friends dying painful deaths, and others did not. What does that teach us? It means when we see a problem and need other people's help, we need to bring them into direct contact with what's happening, in this case dragging them into hospital wards to see once-fit young men gasping on respirators. A well-researched, well-written, personal case study on AIDS, the working of institutions, local politics and making a difference. Read it sometime. And keep it in a prominent place on your bookshelf. kasperkat@... from WI, United States , December 25, 1998 This book is amazing! I'm gonna go buy it! I am in the process of reading this book and so far ist is the most important book I've ever read. Its amazing to me that all this began just a few years before I was born and that I am part of the first generation to have to deal with AIDS through my whole lifetime. This book has inspired me to go into the field of epidemiology when I am older. I reccommend this book to anyone who wants to know more about the desease. It is an awesome book! A reader from New Orleans, LA , October 3, 1998 If you want to read one book about AIDS, this is the one. Excellent blend of sociology, history, and political science with a touch of biology for flair. If you want to know how a book can be technical and personal read this book. Shilts has done all the research for us, no need to look any further for a comprehensive understanding of the evolution of AIDS in the United States. tinyb44@..., from Long Island, NY , August 23, 1998 A must read for all people in the US, a wake up call I thought Randy Shilts' account of the harrowing, persistent way AIDS wove its way into the US was amazing. Albeit a bit technical, the book held me spellbound and made me think twice about what is fact and what is fiction behind the closed doors of our government. The way the disease was treated cost many lives and a great embarassment to our country and Shilts portrays this saga in an exquisite way. A reader from Claremont, California , August 4, 1998 Very informative and very personal If you are even the slightest bit interested in how the AIDS epidemic came about, READ THIS BOOK! If you have a couple of days to spend, READ THIS BOOK! It shows both the statistics of the epidemic and the personal stories of the people who died, the survivors, and the people who tried to bring it to the world. One thing - it can be hard to get through, but it is well worth it. A reader from North Carolina , May 13, 1998 One of the best books I've ever read This is one of the four or five books I always recommend to friends. It is a fascinating look at the AIDS epidemic, making the disease real both from the viewpoints of those who had the disease and from the viewpoints of the epidemiologists at the CDC. The book reads almost like a detective novel. I had read the book before the HBO movie was made, and was pleased that the movie was as faithful to the book as a movie could be. But if you have seen the movie, you must read the book. As good as the movie was, the book is 10X better. Darkseid56@... from San Diego, California, U.S. , May 5, 1998 The guide to AIDS during the early years And The Band Played On is in my humble opinion the most comprehensive writing on the AIDS epidemic that has ever seen the printed page. It not only deals with the social aspects of the disease but also the medical and political aspects as well. By the time the reader finishes the book they will be most likely repulsed by the way that the disease was treated in the early years because it happened to surface in the gay community first. For everyone who has read the book then I recommend watching the HBO movies that was made by the same name. If you have watched the movies and not read the book then I must tell you that you are doing yourself a great injustice. Talk to you guys later. A reader from Michigan , March 13, 1998 An excellent (if disturbing) look at medical public policy Even though we've moved well beyond the early stages of the AIDS epidemic (which is what this fine book chronicles) it's still an important book. The stories of the people are moving and interesting. Even more important are the insights the story gives us on how politics, budgets, medical research protocol, and egos can drastically affect medical research. It gives you a lot of food for thought. 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 1999 Report Share Posted May 3, 1999 Hi Marleen, I am glad we both feel the same way. I tell everyone to watch it, then they will know our plight. Thank s so much, Hugs and hugs, Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 In a message dated 5/21/01 10:11:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pastmidvale@... writes: << Last night my DH and Elie went to the movies. the only pre-teaching we did was to tell Elie in the car after our flea market gig (where he walked the whole time!) that we were going to see SHREK and that after the movie we would go out to eat. He responded with OK!. Sat through the whole movie - no food, no drink, only one request for bathroom. This is a first, but we sure plan to do it again >> Go Elie!!!!!!! Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 hehehe, we took the boys to see shrek too, they loved it as much as we did, nathan did request to " nathan's house " as he has been doing more lately after we are gone form home a few minutes, but he went potty and got some gummy fruity candy things then sat down and enjoyed the show mostly with brief periods of his string dangling,lol. shawna. --- sara cohen <pastmidvale@...> wrote: > Last night my DH and Elie went to the movies. the > only pre-teaching we did > was to tell Elie in the car after our flea market > gig (where he walked the > whole time!) that we were going to see SHREK and > that after the movie we > would go out to eat. He responded with OK!. > > Sat through the whole movie - no food, no drink, > only one request for > bathroom. > > This is a first, but we sure plan to do it again. > > As to SHREK - my husband thought it was great. I > atl least liked the moral. > Some of the adult side jokes were crude - but then > America is getting > CRUDE! Eddie was funny. > > Sara > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Checkout our homepage for information, > bookmarks, and photos of our kids. Share favorite > bookmarks, ideas, and other information by including > them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record > of the archives for our list. > > -------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 In a message dated 5/21/01 10:12:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pastmidvale@... writes: > Sat through the whole movie - no food, no drink, only one request for > bathroom. > > This is a first, but we sure plan to do it again. > WAY Cool Sara!!!!!! Thanks goodness for firsts, eh?!?!? LOL Thanks for the movie review!! DOnna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 In a message dated 5/21/01 10:12:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pastmidvale@... writes: > Sat through the whole movie - no food, no drink, only one request for > bathroom. > > This is a first, but we sure plan to do it again. > WAY Cool Sara!!!!!! Thanks goodness for firsts, eh?!?!? LOL Thanks for the movie review!! DOnna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Alyssa's favorite movies are Annie (the original with Carol Burnett as Mrs. Hannigan), Poppins, and just recently, the cartoon version of Snow White. She knows what videos are where and can take them out and put them in the VCR with out problems. She doesn't quite know how to work the remote or the buttons on the VCR yet! Sue & Alyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Alyssa's favorite movies are Annie (the original with Carol Burnett as Mrs. Hannigan), Poppins, and just recently, the cartoon version of Snow White. She knows what videos are where and can take them out and put them in the VCR with out problems. She doesn't quite know how to work the remote or the buttons on the VCR yet! Sue & Alyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2002 Report Share Posted June 30, 2002 > Haven't seen Shallow Hal , but my kids probably did; I'll have to ask them what they thought. Tonight, I rented I am Sam for me and Duff. We didn't get to see that one at the theater and our kids are all off somewhere tonight (cept Maddie of course). I'll let you know about that one too!! > Donna Hi Donna, I loved that movie " I am Sam " , hubby and I went to the theatre for that one. Hope you & Duff enjoyed it. Jim just got back from his trip, so maybe tonight on the other movies mentioned. Hugs. Irma,13,DS/ASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 I saw Italian Job this morning. A lot of the dialogue was very hard to hear. Lsat week I saw Bruce Almighty. Eh! it was ok and it was easy to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Pat, I ran errands all day. I will study tomorrow! LOLL! Marta > Oh yea Marta are you studying???? > Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 ANY Disney sing along....CB loves those.. CB's Granny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 Gene, There are two ways to play movies in BioExplorer. Some movie trailers and music videos can be downloaded in Mpeg format. They can be played by the video player (which will play the audio track as well). The othre option is to use the dvd player object to Play/pause a DVD. There is also a device available from BrainMaster and one from another source that connect to the sound output on your computer and can control a remote control hooked to a VCR or DVD player. At 11:02 AM -0600 12/25/03, Gene wrote: >Hello-- > >I don't know what type of movies you mean, or how they would be used with >NF. However, I once saw a Connery movie called " Mother Lode, " with an >airplane trip through maybe mountains in Alaska, that would seem very >desirable for NF. It compares to the Grand Canyon scenes in the video you >may have got with your BM. > >If one wanted to do NF for a l-o-n-g time, I suppose one could watch a >movie, such that the program would be interrupted whenever one is not >performing as desired. > >Hope this is even relevant. > >Thanks, >Gene > > From: Goldring <paul.goldring@...> >Subject: using DVD's > >Another question. I have a laptop which theoretically plays DVD's (I >haven't actually tried this but it says it's a DVD/CD drive). If I use >BE how do I >1) set the reinforcement ratio? Choppy is bad from my experience. >2) How do i know the movie will begin at the beginning? Do I need to >cue it up manually before each session? How do I go back to where I >ended up after the last session? > >3) Anybody have ideas for movies for adults that would be helpful? >And Happy Holidays Everybody! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Hey, Kam, " Eight Below " is a good flick for people who love dogs! I saw it last night in the theater, but I noticed Netflix already has it. Sharon [ ] movies > , > > I caught the cast of the new movie on the Tyra show the other day (oh > how I need to get back to work!) and definitely plan to see it! We > have date night on Friday - don't go to the first releases too often, > but I might make an exception this time. Thanks again for giving me a > bright spot in the midst of what was becoming a living nightmare! > > kam > > > > > If you are up to a movie, the next one in line after Diary of a Mad > Black Women is out, Tyler 's " Madea's Family Reunion " . I haven't > got to go see it yet, it will be for date night Sunday. I could use a > good laugh! > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Thanks, Sharon! I will add it to the list! > > > > If you are up to a movie, the next one in line after Diary of a Mad > > Black Women is out, Tyler 's " Madea's Family Reunion " . I haven't > > got to go see it yet, it will be for date night Sunday. I could use a > > good laugh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 My best part is that it was filmed in northern BC, Canada, my province! Beautiful scenery. Llweyn -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Sharon GreenSent: February 27, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [ ] moviesHey, Kam, "Eight Below" is a good flick for people who love dogs! I saw it last night in the theater, but I noticed Netflix already has it.Sharon [ ] movies> ,>> I caught the cast of the new movie on the Tyra show the other day (oh> how I need to get back to work!) and definitely plan to see it! We> have date night on Friday - don't go to the first releases too often,> but I might make an exception this time. Thanks again for giving me a> bright spot in the midst of what was becoming a living nightmare!>> kam>>> >> If you are up to a movie, the next one in line after Diary of a Mad> Black Women is out, Tyler 's " Madea's Family Reunion". I haven't> got to go see it yet, it will be for date night Sunday. I could use a> good laugh!>>>>>>> scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 some parents may view this as a blessing. However, maybe it is too long for him to sit there or maybe it’s the animation or real lifeness. I have two children and one would not watch cartoons, only wanted to watch real life people, where the other wanted only animation. Does he enjoy short shows like 20 -30 minute? My aspie daughter liked only animation and there were few shows she enjoyed and would watch. her favorite was scarry series. She would watch those few over and over again but had no interest in other shows. Regards, melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 My all time favorite movies are the Back to the Future series. From the time I first saw them at age nine I immediately identified with Doc because I felt like he was “weird” like me. Watching these movies made me feel like I wasn’t alone. Additionally, the adventure aspect was an escape for me. Other favorite characters when I was growing up: Tigger from Winnie the Pooh Uncle Fester from The Addams Family movie (yes, I’m a fan of Lloyd) Uncle Scrooge from DuckTales The Count from Sesame Street Notice a common denominator? The weird and sometimes misunderstood characters. Today I think most of these characters and their movies/TV shows are okay, but my fandom from Back to the Future has never abated. Hope this helps! On 1/19/11 6:33 PM, " Lea " <leamadea@...> wrote: I am wondering if any parents have noticed certain movies the children seem to relate to better than others? It may help to know of movies that have a positive response in our precious children. I have noticed that my grand daughter adores Alice in Wonderland and relates well to the characters and the good and bad theme to it. Lea -- “We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.” – Dawkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 hmmmm....my kids all love the tinkerbell movies....2 boys and 1 girl. I really think Tinkerbell teaches kindness and global awareness....like being green in a non-obsessive kinda way That---and that we are all human making mistakes as we go along From: Lea <leamadea@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 6:33:59 PMSubject: Movies I am wondering if any parents have noticed certain movies the children seem to relate to better than others? It may help to know of movies that have a positive response in our precious children. I have noticed that my grand daughter adores Alice in Wonderland and relates well to the characters and the good and bad theme to it. Lea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 You have the same movie likes as I do. I thought I was the only one. My favorite movies always had the misfit characters in it and I loved it. As an adult I find myself drawn to The Butcher's Wife and Scissorhands. I am in love with Alice in Wonderland with my granddaughter. We have tea parties and walk through the woods looking for Bandersnatches and white rabbits. I know that sounds weird but I am in my element in the weird world. I never could fit in the "normal" world. I know my granddaughter will be faced with the same challenges but for now we live in our own Wonderland.From: Esris <julie1013@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 4:08:35 PMSubject: Re: Movies My all time favorite movies are the Back to the Future series. From the time I first saw them at age nine I immediately identified with Doc because I felt like he was “weird†like me. Watching these movies made me feel like I wasn’t alone. Additionally, the adventure aspect was an escape for me. Other favorite characters when I was growing up: Tigger from Winnie the Pooh Uncle Fester from The Addams Family movie (yes, I’m a fan of Lloyd) Uncle Scrooge from DuckTales The Count from Sesame Street Notice a common denominator? The weird and sometimes misunderstood characters. Today I think most of these characters and their movies/TV shows are okay, but my fandom from Back to the Future has never abated. Hope this helps! On 1/19/11 6:33 PM, "Lea" <leamadea@...> wrote: I am wondering if any parents have noticed certain movies the children seem to relate to better than others? It may help to know of movies that have a positive response in our precious children. I have noticed that my grand daughter adores Alice in Wonderland and relates well to the characters and the good and bad theme to it. Lea -- “We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.†– Dawkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 We haven't been able to sit through too many movies, as they are too long usually....Little Bear is a top favorite, any Scooby Doo, Max and Ruby, and Backyardigans. I think Little Bear is so sweet and the music is relaxing. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "Lea" <leamadea@...>Sender: Autism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:33:59 -0000<Autism and Aspergers Treatment >Reply Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Movies I am wondering if any parents have noticed certain movies the children seem to relate to better than others? It may help to know of movies that have a positive response in our precious children. I have noticed that my grand daughter adores Alice in Wonderland and relates well to the characters and the good and bad theme to it. Lea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I think of Scissorhands as an allegory for Asperger’s. Which would make sense because Tim Burton thinks he has it and the film was very personal to him. Somebody online actually wrote an in-depth analysis about it. Just Google it and it comes right up. J On 1/19/11 8:03 PM, " Lea Hutto " <leamadea@...> wrote: You have the same movie likes as I do. I thought I was the only one. My favorite movies always had the misfit characters in it and I loved it. As an adult I find myself drawn to The Butcher's Wife and Scissorhands. I am in love with Alice in Wonderland with my granddaughter. We have tea parties and walk through the woods looking for Bandersnatches and white rabbits. I know that sounds weird but I am in my element in the weird world. I never could fit in the " normal " world. I know my granddaughter will be faced with the same challenges but for now we live in our own Wonderland. From: Esris <julie1013@...> Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 4:08:35 PM Subject: Re: Movies My all time favorite movies are the Back to the Future series. From the time I first saw them at age nine I immediately identified with Doc because I felt like he was “weird” like me. Watching these movies made me feel like I wasn’t alone. Additionally, the adventure aspect was an escape for me. Other favorite characters when I was growing up: Tigger from Winnie the Pooh Uncle Fester from The Addams Family movie (yes, I’m a fan of Lloyd) Uncle Scrooge from DuckTales The Count from Sesame Street Notice a common denominator? The weird and sometimes misunderstood characters. Today I think most of these characters and their movies/TV shows are okay, but my fandom from Back to the Future has never abated. Hope this helps! On 1/19/11 6:33 PM, " Lea " <leamadea@...> wrote: I am wondering if any parents have noticed certain movies the children seem to relate to better than others? It may help to know of movies that have a positive response in our precious children. I have noticed that my grand daughter adores Alice in Wonderland and relates well to the characters and the good and bad theme to it. Lea -- “Isn't it sad to go to your grave without ever wondering why you were born? Who, with such a thought, would not spring from bed, eager to resume discovering the world and rejoicing to be part of it?” -- Dawkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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