Re: LDN Trouble Shooting guide

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice overall about 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help from it. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening of symptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for a short period of time and then they usually get better and go on to experience the benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicine hoping to get better and you are feeling worse. But since this happens enough that we are used to seeing it and seeing people get through it with good results, we try and encourage those taking LDN to ride through it. Understandably not everyone can tolerate worsening symptoms and they must keep asking themselves if this med is making them worse or if they are part of that 15% that just won't get better on it.

Other options that might help while going through a difficult period of time with increasing symptoms include:

1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure they are formulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for you. I usually recommend going through one of the pharmacies listed on the LDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully for an extended period of time.

2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better with LDN test for Lymes and find out that they never actually had MS. We recommend testing with a Lymes literate doctor. Apparently some of the general tests for Lymes may not catch or diagnose it accurately.

3. We have also seen a number of cases where people were not feeling better with LDN and then they get checked for Candida (overgrowth of yeast in your body - many times stemming from use of antibiotics). If they find they have a high concentration of Candida and they go through the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work much better for them.

4. Keeping stress in check. Time and time again we find that exasperations come up in times of extreme stress. This even happens to those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize enough to find ways to reduce stress in your life.

5. For the reduction in side effects we typically recommend starting LDN at a very low dosage and building your way up to 3 or 4.5. Most people that try this start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or 4.5 until they feel at their best.

Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regarding problems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that are helped by or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forward on the solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you have questions or problems please write regarding the problems to the chat site and we will send you what we can find that has been saved. Some of these problems and solutions found include: stiffness, sleep, fatigue, etc. We also have been forwarding messages regarding other supplements that have helped others with certain ailments like pain, depression, eye problems etc.

For those that have been on this chat site and have had success with this wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too. Heath is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderful gift to everyone concerned. That is what this site is all about.

My best

Aletha

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

Is there anyone who can give me information about doing an MRI? I would like to get an MRI done now before too much time goes by taking LDN and to see what lesions I have or activity/non activity. I have to do it privately because thru the Natl health care system here they won't give you the papers or tests. to do this at a private clinic I need to know what needs to be done. Can someone knowledgeable tell me what area should be done and how? later on, I would do another to compare it and and share any interesting results.

thank you,

Miki-MS

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN Trouble Shooting guide

Hi everyone,

I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice overall about 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help from it. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening of symptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for a short period of time and then they usually get better and go on to experience the benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicine hoping to get better and you are feeling worse. But since this happens enough that we are used to seeing it and seeing people get through it with good results, we try and encourage those taking LDN to ride through it. Understandably not everyone can tolerate worsening symptoms and they must keep asking themselves if this med is making them worse or if they are part of that 15% that just won't get better on it.

Other options that might help while going through a difficult period of time with increasing symptoms include:

1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure they are formulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for you. I usually recommend going through one of the pharmacies listed on the LDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully for an extended period of time.

2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better with LDN test for Lymes and find out that they never actually had MS. We recommend testing with a Lymes literate doctor. Apparently some of the general tests for Lymes may not catch or diagnose it accurately.

3. We have also seen a number of cases where people were not feeling better with LDN and then they get checked for Candida (overgrowth of yeast in your body - many times stemming from use of antibiotics). If they find they have a high concentration of Candida and they go through the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work much better for them.

4. Keeping stress in check. Time and time again we find that exasperations come up in times of extreme stress. This even happens to those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize enough to find ways to reduce stress in your life.

5. For the reduction in side effects we typically recommend starting LDN at a very low dosage and building your way up to 3 or 4.5. Most people that try this start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or 4.5 until they feel at their best.

Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regarding problems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that are helped by or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forward on the solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you have questions or problems please write regarding the problems to the chat site and we will send you what we can find that has been saved. Some of these problems and solutions found include: stiffness, sleep, fatigue, etc. We also have been forwarding messages regarding other supplements that have helped others with certain ailments like pain, depression, eye problems etc.

For those that have been on this chat site and have had success with this wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too. Heath is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderful gift to everyone concerned. That is what this site is all about.

My best

Aletha

[Guest guest]

I can only tell you about the brain MRI (but you can have lesions in

your spine, too) and how my scripts were written. You need a MRI of

the brain with and w/o contrast. Most of mine were done in the reg

MRI (enclosed/tube), I had one done in the open MRI and the dr. made

them repeat it in the closed. He said the open isn't good enough for

MS. He, also, mentioned he wanted thin slices, my MRI facility does

that anyway.

(I have 3 lesions and it stayed that way over 8 yrs. or 9 and I had

the MS symptoms, and was given the diagnosis. Later I found out I

have late stage Lyme disease.)

jan

>

> Dear all,

> Is there anyone who can give me information about doing an MRI? I

would like to get an MRI done now before too much time goes by taking

LDN and to see what lesions I have or activity/non activity. I have

to do it privately because thru the Natl health care system here they

won't give you the papers or tests. to do this at a private clinic I

need to know what needs to be done. Can someone knowledgeable tell me

what area should be done and how? later on, I would do another to

compare it and and share any interesting results.

> thank you,

> Miki-MS

[Guest guest]

LDN Trouble Shooting Guide

I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice

overall about 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help from

it. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening of

symptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for a short

period of time and then they usually get better and go on to experience the

benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicine hoping to

get better and you are feeling worse. But since this happens enough

that we are used to seeing it and seeing people get through it with good

results, we try and encourage those taking LDN to ride through it.

Understandably not everyone can tolerate worsening symptoms and they must keep

asking themselves if this med is making them worse or if they are part of

that 15% that just won't get better on it.

Other options that might help while going through a difficult

period of time with increasing symptoms include:

1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure

they are formulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for

you. I usually recommend going through one of the pharmacies

listed on the LDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully

for an extended period of time.

2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better

with LDN test for Lymes and find out that they never actually had

MS. We recommend testing with a Lymes literate

doctor. Apparently some of the general tests for Lymes may not catch

or diagnose it accurately.

3. We have also seen a number of cases where people

were not feeling better with LDN and then they get checked for Candida

(overgrowth of yeast in your body - many times stemming from use of

antibiotics). If they find they have a high concentration of Candida and

they go through the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work much

better for them.

4. Keeping stress in check. Time and time again we

find that exasperations come up in times of extreme stress. This even

happens to those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize

enough to find ways to reduce stress in your life.

5. For the reduction in side effects we typically recommend

starting LDN at a very low dosage and building your way up to 3 or 4.5.

Most people that try this start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or 4.5 until

they feel at their best.

Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regarding

problems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that are helped by

or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forward on the

solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you have questions

or problems please write regarding the problems to the chat site and we will

send you what we can find that has been saved. Some of these problems and

solutions found include: stiffness, sleep, fatigue, etc. We also have

been forwarding messages regarding other supplements that have helped others

with certain ailments like pain, depression, eye problems etc.

For saved chats on subject email Aletha - aletha@...

For those that have been on this chat site and have had success

with this wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too.

Heath is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderful gift to

everyone concerned. That is what this site is all about.

Hugs & Blessings,CrystalLDN_Users Group Owner Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website Crystal's LDN Gift Shop Crystal's LDN Support Group Skip's Compounding Pharmacy LDN Website Re: [low dose naltrexone] Symptoms getting worse from LDN

Kristy,

Is it possible you are reacting to the filler and not the LDN itself

(assuming you are taking capsules)?

loveybugs3 wrote:

> Im curious to see if anyone who has tried LDN has had their symptoms

> worsen after taking it. I have Crohns and this is my 3rd time trying

> LDn. All 3 times Ive gotten really bad watery diarhea and feel awful.

> does anyone think that this is a result from the LDN ar is just a

> coincidence of this happening. I was not having the diarhea prior to

> LDN, but was just getting off Prednisone. Id really like some input on

> this, after the first 2 tries I was admitted into the Hospital,and I

> dont want to head in that direction again.

>

> Thanks everyone,

>

> Kristy

>

>

[Guest guest]

LDN Trouble Shooting Guide

I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice

overall about 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help from

it. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening of

symptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for a short

period of time and then they usually get better and go on to experience the

benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicine hoping to

get better and you are feeling worse. But since this happens enough

that we are used to seeing it and seeing people get through it with good

results, we try and encourage those taking LDN to ride through it.

Understandably not everyone can tolerate worsening symptoms and they must keep

asking themselves if this med is making them worse or if they are part of

that 15% that just won't get better on it.

Other options that might help while going through a difficult

period of time with increasing symptoms include:

1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure

they are formulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for

you. I usually recommend going through one of the pharmacies

listed on the LDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully

for an extended period of time.

2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better

with LDN test for Lymes and find out that they never actually had

MS. We recommend testing with a Lymes literate

doctor. Apparently some of the general tests for Lymes may not catch

or diagnose it accurately.

3. We have also seen a number of cases where people

were not feeling better with LDN and then they get checked for Candida

(overgrowth of yeast in your body - many times stemming from use of

antibiotics). If they find they have a high concentration of Candida and

they go through the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work much

better for them.

4. Keeping stress in check. Time and time again we

find that exasperations come up in times of extreme stress. This even

happens to those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize

enough to find ways to reduce stress in your life.

5. For the reduction in side effects we typically recommend

starting LDN at a very low dosage and building your way up to 3 or 4.5.

Most people that try this start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or 4.5 until

they feel at their best.

Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regarding

problems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that are helped by

or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forward on the

solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you have questions

or problems please write regarding the problems to the chat site and we will

send you what we can find that has been saved. Some of these problems and

solutions found include: stiffness, sleep, fatigue, etc. We also have

been forwarding messages regarding other supplements that have helped others

with certain ailments like pain, depression, eye problems etc.

For saved chats on subject email Aletha - aletha@...

For those that have been on this chat site and have had success

with this wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too.

Heath is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderful gift to

everyone concerned. That is what this site is all about.

Hugs & Blessings,CrystalLDN_Users Group Owner Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website Crystal's LDN Gift Shop Crystal's LDN Support Group Skip's Compounding Pharmacy LDN Website [low dose naltrexone] Gallbladder and Chronslow dose naltrexoneDate: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 2:07 PM

Thought I would drop a note re this subject - I have Chrons and have had gallbladder issues while on LDN. I started LDN in Sept 07 and began to have increasing episodes of what we thought were Chrons related attacks. By Nov 07 I was dx with severe gallbaladder issues and blockage - I ended up having a procedure to remeove the blockage and then a sx to remove the gallbaldder by laproscopic insicsion. The laproscopic procedure failed as the gallbladder burst and I had it removed abdominal -along with a hernia repair.I have had a number of health issues that coincided with my taking LDN - high liver emzymes - gallbladder - cataract(s)that literally developed in a 4-6mth period.I recently had surgery to fix one eye.Don't get me wrong - I feel the benifit from the LDN is/was substantial and will likey start taking it again soon - there is no concrete evidence that LDN was responsible for the health

issues - nor is there any evidence to say it was not.One has to decide on a personal level if that medication is providing benifit to ones aliments.

[Guest guest]

Crystal,

This is excellent info to have in one place. You might want to add on

ette's advice that, for IBD people, the transdermal cream version of

LDN may be more beneficial than the oral.

Thanks

Sally

[Guest guest]

LDN Trouble Shooting Guide

I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice

overall about 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help from

it. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening of

symptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for a short

period of time and then they usually get better and go on to experience the

benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicine hoping to

get better and you are feeling worse. But since this happens enough

that we are used to seeing it and seeing people get through it with good

results, we try and encourage those taking LDN to ride through it.

Understandably not everyone can tolerate worsening symptoms and they must keep

asking themselves if this med is making them worse or if they are part of

that 15% that just won't get better on it.

Other options that might help while going through a difficult

period of time with increasing symptoms include:

1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure

they are formulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for

you. I usually recommend going through one of the pharmacies

listed on the LDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully

for an extended period of time.

2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better

with LDN test for Lymes and find out that they never actually had

MS. We recommend testing with a Lymes literate

doctor. Apparently some of the general tests for Lymes may not catch

or diagnose it accurately.

3. We have also seen a number of cases where people

were not feeling better with LDN and then they get checked for Candida

(overgrowth of yeast in your body - many times stemming from use of

antibiotics). If they find they have a high concentration of Candida and

they go through the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work much

better for them.

4. Keeping stress in check. Time and time again we

find that exasperations come up in times of extreme stress. This even

happens to those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize

enough to find ways to reduce stress in your life.

5. For the reduction in side effects we typically recommend

starting LDN at a very low dosage and building your way up to 3 or 4.5.

Most people that try this start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or 4.5 until

they feel at their best.

Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regarding

problems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that are helped by

or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forward on the

solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you have questions

or problems please write regarding the problems to the chat site and we will

send you what we can find that has been saved. Some of these problems and

solutions found include: stiffness, sleep, fatigue, etc. We also have

been forwarding messages regarding other supplements that have helped others

with certain ailments like pain, depression, eye problems etc.

For saved chats on subject email Aletha - aletha@...

For those that have been on this chat site and have had success

with this wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too.

Health is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderful gift to

everyone concerned. That is what this site is all about.

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy....No Relapses!!! Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website - Crystal's LDN Support Group [low dose naltrexone] LDN & Headache, nausea, diarrhea, abdominal painWell I started LDN for Sarcoidosis and Hashimotos in 9-19-08 at 1.5 mg per night. I went up to 3.0 on 9-24-08. On 10-1-08 I got horrible diarrhea something fierce and abdominal pain (upper and lower). I also felt slightly nauseous. On 10-4-08 I noticed a slight headache. I thought it was sinus related and that it would pass. I took a Seudafed PE yesterday and it did not even touch it. The diarrhea seems to have improved with a less lose and more firm bowel, but the headache and nausea remains. I get my LDN from The Compounder in Aurora, Illinois. I was told they use Avicel filler. I did notice others have

issue on the avicel. I also read elsewhere on this site that some people have these issues due to the increased endorphins and it will take the body sometime for it to get used to it. Otherwise, the LDN is GREAT! I can breathe like I did before the sarc, thos enice, deep breathes that I could not take over 2 weeks ago. SO...is it the filler? Is this a side effect that will pass? Should I lower from 3.0mg/night to 1.5mg/night? I also was taking 50mcg of Synthroid, I lowered it to 25 mcg this morning per MD. Thanks for your help. ------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

LDN Trouble Shooting Guide

Hi everyone,I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice overallabout 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help fromit. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening ofsymptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for ashort period of time and then they usually get better and go on toexperience the benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicinehoping to get better and you are feeling worse. But since thishappens enough that we are used to seeing it and seeing people getthrough it with good results, we try and encourage those taking LDN toride through it. Understandably not everyone can tolerate worseningsymptoms and they must keep asking themselves if this med is makingthem worse or if they are part of that 15% that just

won't get betteron it. Other options that might help while going through a difficult periodof time with increasing symptoms include:1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure they areformulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for you. Iusually recommend going through one of the pharmacies listed on theLDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully for an extendedperiod of time. 2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better with LDNtest for Lymes and find out that they never actually had MS. Werecommend testing with a Lymes literate doctor. Apparently some ofthe general tests for Lymes may not catch or diagnose it accurately. 3. We have also seen a number of cases where people were not feelingbetter with LDN and then they get checked for Candida (overgrowth ofyeast in your body - many times stemming from use of antibiotics) .

Ifthey find they have a high concentration of Candida and they gothrough the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work muchbetter for them.4. Keeping stress in check. Time and time again we find thatexacerbations come up in times of extreme stress. This even happensto those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize enoughto find ways to reduce stress in your life.5. One a number of occasions we have noticed that when people havelarge scale infections that they may have an increase in symptoms.This may be due to the body using all of its resources towardsfighting off the infection, or it might be a result of usingantibiotics to fight the infection (see #3 above). 6. For the reduction in side effects we typically recommend startingLDN at a very low dosage and building your way up to 3 or 4.5. Mostpeople that try this start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or

4.5until they feel at their best. Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regardingproblems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that arehelped by or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forwardon the solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you havequestions or problems please write regarding the problems to the chatsite and we will send you what we can find that has been saved. Someof these problems and solutions found include: stiffness, sleep,fatigue, etc. We also have been forwarding messages regarding othersupplements that have helped others with certain ailments like pain,depression, eye problems etc. For those that have been on this chat site and have had success withthis wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too. Heath is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderfulgift to everyone concerned.

That is what this site is all about.

For saved chats on subject email Aletha - aletha@...

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From: Mende Machado <mendemachado@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:41:37 PMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] My doc said yes to LDN !!!

I am not reacting the way i think I should be to the LDN and am considering stopping it. I feel like I was actually better before I took it. I know it takes awhile but I am feeling worse with stomach pains etc. Would the cream be approiate for me and where do you apply it? Also if I did stop it would I have to slowly do it?

Mende

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[Guest guest]

great post. thank goodness we have you keeping it all together.  i honestly feel that before anyone starts ldn they should take some probiotics at least for a few weeks. i've told folks to do this little protocol before or  concurrently: aloe juice for a few weeks (and stay home the first few days), probiotics for a few weeks, and some digestive enzymes (unless you have a ulcer) for a few weeks and for the most part it puts peoples bellys back together.We have an entire life time of abusing our guts and i doubt if there is anyone here that has not taken antibiotics or even multiple kinds of otc medications that have messed with our stomach.  ( I never ever had heartburn after doing this and i was eating tums all day)and I really believe the stress is everyone's worse enemy. The doc I'm working on right this moment has to do with music ( is music therapy? looking at what goes on physically inside the body and what kind of real life applications do we have for treatment) and my  basic science guy is a director of complex systems and brain science for the national institute of mental health as well as a fullbright scholar. at this point i can say if something as simple as if rhythms and tones can affect us in a positive or negative way then keeping our stress under check is really paramount- not only for you guys with chronic diseases but for all of us. stress negatively impacts your entire systemhere are a few articleshttp://www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=fa/selye3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Selyehe really was the one that put the mind-body connection together a long time ago. (as most scientists do by total serendipity!) so even thought we know a lot not only is there a lot to learn. (or maybe just a lot  to believe)cyndi CCyndi Lenzclenz@...http://www.tdgr2productions.comhttp://www.goldenrescuesouthflorida.com"Is colainn gan cheann duine gan anam cara"The highest calling is to be a soul friend St Brigid On Mar 4, 2009, at 1:25 AM, wittmann.aletha wrote:Hi everyone,I think it is important to remind everyone that we do notice overall about 15% of people taking LDN for MS do not seem to get any help from it. We have also noticed that many people experience worsening of symptoms, re-visiting old symptoms or even having new problems for a short period of time and then they usually get better and go on to experience the benefits of LDN. It is scary when you take a medicine hoping to get better and you are feeling worse. But since this happens enough that we are used to seeing it and seeing people get through it with good results, we try and encourage those taking LDN to ride through it. Understandably not everyone can tolerate worsening symptoms and they must keep asking themselves if this med is making them worse or if they are part of that 15% that just won't get better on it. Other options that might help while going through a difficult period of time with increasing symptoms include:1. Checking on who is providing your LDN to make sure they are formulating it correctly and with a filler that works best for you. I usually recommend going through one of the pharmacies listed on the LDN web site that have been providing LDN successfully for an extended period of time. 2. We also have seen some that have not been doing better with LDN test for Lymes and find out that they never actually had MS. We recommend testing with a Lymes literate doctor. Apparently some of the general tests for Lymes may not catch or diagnose it accurately. 3. We have also seen a number of cases where people were not feeling better with LDN and then they get checked for Candida (overgrowth of yeast in your body - many times stemming from use of antibiotics). If they find they have a high concentration of Candida and they go through the process of getting it under control LDN tends to work much better for them.4. Keeping stress in check. Time and time again we find that exacerbations come up in times of extreme stress. This even happens to those that are doing well with LDN use. We cannot emphasize enough to find ways to reduce stress in your life.5. On a number of occations we have noticed that when people have large scale infections that they may have an increase in symptoms. This may be due to the body using all of its resourses towards fighting off the infection, or it might be a result of using antibiotics to fight the infection (see #3 above). 6. For the reduction in side effects we typically recommend starting LDN at a very low dosage and building your way up to 3 or 4.5. Most people that try this start at 1.5mg, and gradually go up to 3 or 4.5 until they feel at their best. Over the past couple of years we have been saving chats regarding problems associated with the many illnesses and/or problems that are helped by or associated with LDN use. Many times we try and forward on the solutions found by other chatters from this site. If you have questions or problems please write regarding the problems to the chat site and we will send you what we can find that has been saved. Some of these problems and solutions found include: stiffness, sleep, fatigue, etc. We also have been forwarding messages regarding other supplements that have helped others with certain ailments like pain, depression, eye problems etc. For those that have been on this chat site and have had success with this wonderful drug we stay on only to help others get there too. Heath is the goal, and helping others reach that goal is a wonderful gift to everyone concerned. That is what this site is all about. My bestAletha