Re: Deanne/was: chelation thoughts/NCD

[Guest guest]

If NCD is a chelator, shouldn't the NCD people be able to prove it

aside from talking basic chemistry? Is there any scientific proof

that if I ingest liquid zeolites it will bind to mercury and allow it

to safely leave my body? Can they show a urine test or stool test or

something like that (if that is proof; I don't even know).

All of these phone conference links and sugary-sweet comments sound

so familiar (the " I don't dare give out Marcy's email or he'll be

overwhelmed with phone calls " stuff). I was given a sales pitch for a

protein powder/nutritional supp at an off-leash dog park and agreed

to listen in on one of these phone conference calls. It was almost

the same script; this all makes me nervous.

I can't tell people who see positive changes that NCD isn't helping

them, but it would be nice to know if they were chelating or not!

Pam

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> > I thought the following doctors comments may interest you, many

> answers in regards to children with autism and the effect of NCD as

> a chelator: If you have any question please ask. Do your due

> diligence please.

> > Medical Biography Dr. Prociuk followed by Q and A's

> >

[Guest guest]

Andy has said that while it may be helping some children, this if

for reasons different than metal chelation, such as absorbing gut

yeast or viruses, but that it does not bind to and remove metals. I

have given up this arguement as many people wish to use it anyway,

instead of spending their money on actual proven chelators. Liqiud

zeolite is volcanic ash. And very expensive ash at that.

And to answer your question..yes they should be able to PROVE it, if

it were what it says. So yes, it may help some children that nothing

else works, but for different reasons. These kids probably don't

have a metal issue. I have also heard of people who saw great

results for a while, then ended up with serious regressions and

stopped using it. This is one of those products that maybe, if you

were an adult, you might say...well ok, I will give it whirl. If it

makes me sick..I stop. But with kids..you can't check that progress,

many can't tell you it is making them feel worse. And sometimes the

repercussions of using a questionable product are not evident rigth

away.

I wish I could give you something more concrete on this product. I

know it has been hased over numerous times on here. There are

probably hundreds of posts in the archives that you could look up. I

can honestly say..I look at it. And I won't use it on myself or my

children. I only get one try to chelate them and get them well, and

I am sticking with what science has proven works.

I think someone had this product analyzed by DDI, the results might

be in the files. There was not anything in it that would chelate

metals.

In , " noaholiviaian " <phaselow@...>

wrote:

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> If NCD is a chelator, shouldn't the NCD people be able to prove it

> aside from talking basic chemistry? Is there any scientific proof

> that if I ingest liquid zeolites it will bind to mercury and allow

it

> to safely leave my body? Can they show a urine test or stool test

or

> something like that (if that is proof; I don't even know).

>

> All of these phone conference links and sugary-sweet comments

sound

> so familiar (the " I don't dare give out Marcy's email or he'll be

> overwhelmed with phone calls " stuff). I was given a sales pitch

for a

> protein powder/nutritional supp at an off-leash dog park and

agreed

> to listen in on one of these phone conference calls. It was

almost

> the same script; this all makes me nervous.

>

> I can't tell people who see positive changes that NCD isn't

helping

> them, but it would be nice to know if they were chelating or not!

>

> Pam

>

>

> > >

> > > I thought the following doctors comments may interest you,

many

> > answers in regards to children with autism and the effect of NCD

as

> > a chelator: If you have any question please ask. Do your due

> > diligence please.

> > > Medical Biography Dr. Prociuk followed by Q and A's

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

I just checked the files and yes the analysis from Doctors data in

there. What bothers me most about this product is that it contains

the very things we are trying to remove, such as aluminum, arsenic,

lead, and other heavy metals.

Maybe not in high quantities..but does anyone see anything wrong

with " giving " toxic metals to " remove " toxic metals. It just doesn't

make sense to me.

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> > > I thought the following doctors comments may interest you,

many

> > answers in regards to children with autism and the effect of NCD

as

> > a chelator: If you have any question please ask. Do your due

> > diligence please.

> > > Medical Biography Dr. Prociuk followed by Q and A's

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

I just wonder where you found that info. NCD does not contain any

heavy metals this is why they were able to get a patent. Yes in its

natural state zeolite does collect heavy metals and toxins, they put

zeolite on Chernoble-spelling to clean up the radiation. They were

able to find a process that removes all the toxins from the zeolite

and to put in a simple form for the body to remove the heavy metals

with the zeolite. This is a very good product.

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> > > > I thought the following doctors comments may interest you,

> many

> > > answers in regards to children with autism and the effect of

NCD

> as

> > > a chelator: If you have any question please ask. Do your due

> > > diligence please.

> > > > Medical Biography Dr. Prociuk followed by Q and A's

> > > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Don't let the way this mineral is distributed stop you from using it.

Besides my son doing great on it. I get loads of private emails on how

well the kids AND parents are doing on the NCD (Natural Cellular Defense)

Waiora knows they hit the jackpot with this one ha-ha

Educate yourself ..or ask me questions

As a parent I suggest everyone try at least one bottle

, NJ

Waiora Distributor

Natural Cellular Defense

www.mywaiora.com/877961

here's jonny....

http://home.earthlink.net/~aprokofiew/

We live in a world in which we need to share responsibility.

It's easy to say " It's not my child, not my community, not my world,

not my problem. "

Then there are those who see the need and respond.

I consider those people my heroes. -- Fred " Mr. " , Children's

TV Show Star

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[Guest guest]

I didn't find it. the DDI lab mass spectrometer report is in the

files section on this board. It was independently tested and had

metals in it. The proof is in the paper. What is this process to

remove all the toxins from the zeolite?

While it may be your opinion that it's a " good product " and maybe

it's working for you...

But the lab has no reason to fudge the test results. And mostly the

only posts we see raving about this product are from distributors.

We are all entitled to our opinions, I prefer to follow science.

What is proven to work. I wish you the best using NCD and hope it

does help you.

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> > > > > I thought the following doctors comments may interest you,

> > many

> > > > answers in regards to children with autism and the effect of

> NCD

> > as

> > > > a chelator: If you have any question please ask. Do your due

> > > > diligence please.

> > > > > Medical Biography Dr. Prociuk followed by Q and A's

> > > > >

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