Re: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am gonna lose it!!!!

May 28, 2006

The answer to this is YES!! be sure that is getting supplements of

magnesium and

calcium and other essential minerals, even the trace minerals, because pica is a

symptom

of lack of essential minerals.

Get him some chewable mineral supplements. New Beginnings has a nice Cal-Mag

one

with orange flavor. One of the major dangers of chelation is mineral

deficiency. Don't

ignore this warning sign.

Peace,

Kathy E.

-- In , " ronnimike " <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...> wrote:

>

> We are just finishing up round 19 this weekend and I am about ready

> to lose my mind....

>

....> ,7.5 years, is driving me nuts....his pica is starting in and

> OMGosh!! It is like double overtime.... He is eating all sorts of

> stuff...rubberbands...yup he's allergic to bananas....clover and

> grass and green stuff....and charcoal...and dirt....and whatever

> else....the charcoal and greens....he just loves the flavor...the

> rubber bands...he just seems to need to chew....but my big concern is

> that he may pick up something and really make himself sick or

> worse....any ideas.. Could this be a sign of a defiencey or need?

>

May 28, 2006

>

> The answer to this is YES!! be sure that is getting

supplements of magnesium and

> calcium and other essential minerals, even the trace minerals,

because pica is a symptom

> of lack of essential minerals.

>

> Get him some chewable mineral supplements. New Beginnings has a

nice Cal-Mag one

> with orange flavor. One of the major dangers of chelation is

mineral deficiency. Don't

> ignore this warning sign.

>

> Peace,

> Kathy E.

>

> Kathy,

Thanks for your reply...

This is what is confusing me...I am giving them a lot of supplements

for just that reason. Including a lot....2000 mg of mag and 150% of

a calcium supplement that includes a lot of traces...it is called

bonebuilder...and it has phosphorus which was something they were low

in .....they are also getting several supplements like moly and

others that I read were good to give while chelating...and a

multiple...so that is why i am sooooooo confused..should i up his cal

and mag sups some more? Most of what I am seeing him eat...are

blood cleaners...isn't grass and clover good for that...and greens.

I am not trying to be argumentitive...just really confused as I

thought I was doing a pretty good job of supplementing them.

Thanks

Ronni

May 28, 2006

Ronny,

We just started caEDTA suppositories and my son is more oppositional than he'd

been in a while.

Periodically he goes around and do all that he shouldn't. However, at the same

time he has had a yeast overgrowth and going through some die off. I attribute

his oppositional behavior and lack of compliance to yeast.

He also drink the yucky water off the yard furniture and doesn't respond to my

deterring of him. caEDTA does not deplete minerals except for zinc which he is

getting additional dose.

Could be a bad yeast over growth for your kids too?

Haleh

May 28, 2006

Hi,

Are you supplementing selenium? If your son is relatively high in

selenium, and is iron deficient, it can trigger pica. Do not

supplement iron without doing a complete blood count with

differential, as well as a ferritin count and reticulocyte count, to

verify an iron deficiency. Iron is toxic, and creates oxidative

stress, but if you need it, you need it. It might be worth a blood test.

My son had a similar experience to your daughter. He drew a line in

the sand at the grocery store -- he wanted cream cheese, forget the

GFCF diet -- and got very aggressive with my baby sitter, who had to

call me for back-up. Since he is 14, this is a big problem. It was a

manic behavior -- grandiose illusions. It turned out to be a bad

reaction to inositol, which is apparently contra-indicated for people

with bipolar. We didn't know he has bipolar tendencies, but we do now!

(And I discovered I did too, when I took a very low dose of inositol,

to see if I could figure out how it was affecting him -- I sure don't

want to go through that again. I was up all night, with delusions of

grand schemes re: certain sped administrators. Sounds funny, but it

was really scary.)

Your mileage may vary.

B.

>

> We are just finishing up round 19 this weekend and I am about ready

> to lose my mind....

>

> I am not sure what is up with a couple of my kids....but they are

> pushing my buttons like crazy....

>

> ,7.5 years, is driving me nuts....his pica is starting in and

> OMGosh!! It is like double overtime.... He is eating all sorts of

> stuff...rubberbands...yup he's allergic to bananas....clover and

> grass and green stuff....and charcoal...and dirt....and whatever

> else....the charcoal and greens....he just loves the flavor...the

> rubber bands...he just seems to need to chew....but my big concern is

> that he may pick up something and really make himself sick or

> worse....any ideas.. Could this be a sign of a defiencey or need?

>

> Also Beth, 12 years on Monday, is really showing some nasty

> behaviors...I am thinking it is viruses..but not sure....she has

> decided she can do whatever she wants....whatever the rules are...she

> cut her brother's hair....she does all sorts of things that she knows

> she's not supposed to do...very beligerant and defiant. I know that

> there are yeast issues...but these are different...and it isn't just

> what she is doing....it is the thoughtlessness that worries me that

> can get her into trouble...bad trouble...fast. She just does what

> she wants without thinking or asking.....this might be less important

> if she were 5 or so...but she's not....any clues here..

>

> Thanks

> Ronni

>

May 28, 2006

(Hoping this isn't a double-post)