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who had a depressive episode at age 10, situational depression, and 2

treatments and she said the dark clouds went away and she felt like

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> Our family moved to a different province last July to get help for my

> asd son. The move has been really hard on my 9 yr old nt son. He is a

> little different, really shy and self-concious, and is having a really

> hard time adjusting to the move. We don't know a soul out here, and he

> is having a hard time with home-sickness, and making friends in his new

> school. To get to the point, I am worried about him, I see him getting

> depressed, he's very sad. He has a hard time falling asleep at night,

> and I notice every night anound bedtime, he's at his most sad and

> depressed. When he doesn't sleep well, he's tired the next day, and it

> makes the depression worse. I give him a multi-vitamin from a health

> food store, and a vitamin C, and a little kirkman CLO every morning.

> He's only 9 yrs. old, but can someone recommend something to help lift

> his spirit? I'm thinking a B-complex, or a B12 supplement? Is there

> something else that would work, or would one of those be best??

> Please, any advice would be so much appreciated- it's killing me to see

> him like this. He's such a sweet, sensitive person.

> Thanks.

> Amber.

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Amber try Methyl B12 sublingual. Make sure it is Methylcobalomin and not

Cyancobalomin.

It has done great for my depression. Give it in the morning and at night give

him a bit of melatonin too for his sleep.

Methyl B12 is helpful in getting us out of our own world and in reducing

anxiety in social interaction.

Above all you guys should get out and meet other families and facilitate some

friendship for yourself and your kids. Get out there and do something. I know

it is really cold now but find an activity. Heated indoor swimming pool or

something. Maybe talk with his school teacher to do a little surprise party

and invite the kids from school or some how devote a day to him to get all the

attention.

My heart goes to your whole family. Having a special need child takes so much

of our energies and resources.

My son Keyon is also on Methyl B12 nasal spray and he has gained a lot

including much ease being social. Our whole family takes it. Ask for methyl

B12 also in shots or nasal spray from your DAN. He should be bringing this up

himself and if he won't do, get some too. It makes kids hyper for a

couple of weeks but in 4-5 weeks, you should see a cognitive boost, language

or vocalization and a lot good things cognitively as well as socially.

I recommend 5000 mcg per day. You can get that at good price here:

www.iherb.com

Best,

Haleh

--- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

> Our family moved to a different province last July to get help for my

> asd son. The move has been really hard on my 9 yr old nt son. He is a

> little different, really shy and self-concious, and is having a really

> hard time adjusting to the move. We don't know a soul out here, and he

> is having a hard time with home-sickness, and making friends in his new

> school. To get to the point, I am worried about him, I see him getting

> depressed, he's very sad. He has a hard time falling asleep at night,

> and I notice every night anound bedtime, he's at his most sad and

> depressed. When he doesn't sleep well, he's tired the next day, and it

> makes the depression worse. I give him a multi-vitamin from a health

> food store, and a vitamin C, and a little kirkman CLO every morning.

> He's only 9 yrs. old, but can someone recommend something to help lift

> his spirit? I'm thinking a B-complex, or a B12 supplement? Is there

> something else that would work, or would one of those be best??

> Please, any advice would be so much appreciated- it's killing me to see

> him like this. He's such a sweet, sensitive person.

> Thanks.

> Amber.

>

>

>

>

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Hi Haleh, Thank-you for the advice. I have a bottle of natural factors B12

Methylcobalamin Sublingual tablets.

They are 1000 MCG each, should I give my 9 yr old nt son one of these every

morning? The adult dosage on the bottle is 1 tablet daily. I am seeing my

DAN! Dr. in about 2 weeks, and I am going to ask him about running tests,

and about the B12 shots, or spray. Amber.

On 1/31/06, haleh niazmand <halniaz@...> wrote:

>

> Amber try Methyl B12 sublingual. Make sure it is Methylcobalomin and not

> Cyancobalomin.

> It has done great for my depression. Give it in the morning and at night

> give

> him a bit of melatonin too for his sleep.

> Methyl B12 is helpful in getting us out of our own world and in reducing

> anxiety in social interaction.

>

> Above all you guys should get out and meet other families and facilitate

> some

> friendship for yourself and your kids. Get out there and do something. I

> know

> it is really cold now but find an activity. Heated indoor swimming pool or

> something. Maybe talk with his school teacher to do a little surprise

> party

> and invite the kids from school or some how devote a day to him to get all

> the

> attention.

> My heart goes to your whole family. Having a special need child takes so

> much

> of our energies and resources.

> My son Keyon is also on Methyl B12 nasal spray and he has gained a lot

> including much ease being social. Our whole family takes it. Ask for

> methyl

> B12 also in shots or nasal spray from your DAN. He should be bringing this

> up

> himself and if he won't do, get some too. It makes kids hyper for a

> couple of weeks but in 4-5 weeks, you should see a cognitive boost,

> language

> or vocalization and a lot good things cognitively as well as socially.

> I recommend 5000 mcg per day. You can get that at good price here:

> www.iherb.com

> Best,

> Haleh

>

> --- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

>

> > Our family moved to a different province last July to get help for my

> > asd son. The move has been really hard on my 9 yr old nt son. He is a

> > little different, really shy and self-concious, and is having a really

> > hard time adjusting to the move. We don't know a soul out here, and he

> > is having a hard time with home-sickness, and making friends in his new

> > school. To get to the point, I am worried about him, I see him getting

> > depressed, he's very sad. He has a hard time falling asleep at night,

> > and I notice every night anound bedtime, he's at his most sad and

> > depressed. When he doesn't sleep well, he's tired the next day, and it

> > makes the depression worse. I give him a multi-vitamin from a health

> > food store, and a vitamin C, and a little kirkman CLO every morning.

> > He's only 9 yrs. old, but can someone recommend something to help lift

> > his spirit? I'm thinking a B-complex, or a B12 supplement? Is there

> > something else that would work, or would one of those be best??

> > Please, any advice would be so much appreciated- it's killing me to see

> > him like this. He's such a sweet, sensitive person.

> > Thanks.

> > Amber.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi Amber, we also moved 1,800 miles away from all family and friends

last July, I can sympathize. My oldest is 11, NT and it has been

hard on her also at times. I am also brand new to biomedical

treatments for my 7-yr old, pdd, so much to learn - you are having

to handle alot right now, I feel for you and your son.

I have recently been looking for alternatives to medication for my

own depression, and I keep seeing omega 3's coming up. I plan to

start on one for myself soon - it may be worth trying with your

son. Let us know how he is doing, I'll be thinking of all of you.

Also - if anyone has used omega 3's for depression - I am looking at

Nordic Naturals, but they have so many formulas. Any advice on

which one to use? I have read to use one with more EPA than DHA for

depression, any thoughts? Thank you

>

> Our family moved to a different province last July to get help for

my

> asd son. The move has been really hard on my 9 yr old nt son. He

is a

> little different, really shy and self-concious, and is having a

really

> hard time adjusting to the move. We don't know a soul out here,

and he

> is having a hard time with home-sickness, and making friends in

his new

> school. To get to the point, I am worried about him, I see him

getting

> depressed, he's very sad. He has a hard time falling asleep at

night,

> and I notice every night anound bedtime, he's at his most sad and

> depressed. When he doesn't sleep well, he's tired the next day,

and it

> makes the depression worse. I give him a multi-vitamin from a

health

> food store, and a vitamin C, and a little kirkman CLO every

morning.

> He's only 9 yrs. old, but can someone recommend something to help

lift

> his spirit? I'm thinking a B-complex, or a B12 supplement? Is

there

> something else that would work, or would one of those be best??

> Please, any advice would be so much appreciated- it's killing me

to see

> him like this. He's such a sweet, sensitive person.

> Thanks.

> Amber.

>

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>>I give him a multi-vitamin from a health

> food store, and a vitamin C, and a little kirkman CLO every morning.

> He's only 9 yrs. old, but can someone recommend something to help lift

> his spirit? I'm thinking a B-complex, or a B12 supplement?

Yes, a B complex would be good to try.

Dana

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> Hi Haleh, Thank-you for the advice. I have a bottle of natural

factors B12

> Methylcobalamin Sublingual tablets.

> They are 1000 MCG each, should I give my 9 yr old nt son one of

these every

> morning? The adult dosage on the bottle is 1 tablet daily.

I would start with 1/4 to 1/2 tablet.

Watch for yeast overgrowth.

Dana

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Dana, I have the B12 methylcobalamin pills, and I have kirkman B-complex

pills. I started on the B12, but do you think that the B-complex

would be better??

Thanks. Amber.

On 2/1/06, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Hi Haleh, Thank-you for the advice. I have a bottle of natural

> factors B12

> > Methylcobalamin Sublingual tablets.

> > They are 1000 MCG each, should I give my 9 yr old nt son one of

> these every

> > morning? The adult dosage on the bottle is 1 tablet daily.

>

>

> I would start with 1/4 to 1/2 tablet.

>

> Watch for yeast overgrowth.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Amber,

Start With one and you can even go up to two per day if you need to. I take

5,000 mcg per day and have heard of a parent who gave her 11 year old son

10,000 mcg and reported better result than the shots. This is however true if

the gut is in good order.

The greatest thing about MB 12 is that is totally non-toxic even at very high

dose.

The spray seems to be working as well as the shots but no clinical study has

confirmed this yet just people who have tried both. We have seen a lot of

interest in language in my son and imitation since we started MB 12. He also

loves his preschool now and even sits for circle times with other kids. I am

pleased that you are going to get your DAN dr to help you. That is why he is

there.

Best to your children and you who seem to be a great mom.

Haleh

--- Amber Eisler <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

> Hi Haleh, Thank-you for the advice. I have a bottle of natural factors B12

> Methylcobalamin Sublingual tablets.

> They are 1000 MCG each, should I give my 9 yr old nt son one of these every

> morning? The adult dosage on the bottle is 1 tablet daily. I am seeing my

> DAN! Dr. in about 2 weeks, and I am going to ask him about running tests,

> and about the B12 shots, or spray. Amber.

>

>

> On 1/31/06, haleh niazmand <halniaz@...> wrote:

> >

> > Amber try Methyl B12 sublingual. Make sure it is Methylcobalomin and not

> > Cyancobalomin.

> > It has done great for my depression. Give it in the morning and at night

> > give

> > him a bit of melatonin too for his sleep.

> > Methyl B12 is helpful in getting us out of our own world and in reducing

> > anxiety in social interaction.

> >

> > Above all you guys should get out and meet other families and facilitate

> > some

> > friendship for yourself and your kids. Get out there and do something. I

> > know

> > it is really cold now but find an activity. Heated indoor swimming pool or

> > something. Maybe talk with his school teacher to do a little surprise

> > party

> > and invite the kids from school or some how devote a day to him to get all

> > the

> > attention.

> > My heart goes to your whole family. Having a special need child takes so

> > much

> > of our energies and resources.

> > My son Keyon is also on Methyl B12 nasal spray and he has gained a lot

> > including much ease being social. Our whole family takes it. Ask for

> > methyl

> > B12 also in shots or nasal spray from your DAN. He should be bringing this

> > up

> > himself and if he won't do, get some too. It makes kids hyper for a

> > couple of weeks but in 4-5 weeks, you should see a cognitive boost,

> > language

> > or vocalization and a lot good things cognitively as well as socially.

> > I recommend 5000 mcg per day. You can get that at good price here:

> > www.iherb.com

> > Best,

> > Haleh

> >

> > --- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Our family moved to a different province last July to get help for my

> > > asd son. The move has been really hard on my 9 yr old nt son. He is a

> > > little different, really shy and self-concious, and is having a really

> > > hard time adjusting to the move. We don't know a soul out here, and he

> > > is having a hard time with home-sickness, and making friends in his new

> > > school. To get to the point, I am worried about him, I see him getting

> > > depressed, he's very sad. He has a hard time falling asleep at night,

> > > and I notice every night anound bedtime, he's at his most sad and

> > > depressed. When he doesn't sleep well, he's tired the next day, and it

> > > makes the depression worse. I give him a multi-vitamin from a health

> > > food store, and a vitamin C, and a little kirkman CLO every morning.

> > > He's only 9 yrs. old, but can someone recommend something to help lift

> > > his spirit? I'm thinking a B-complex, or a B12 supplement? Is there

> > > something else that would work, or would one of those be best??

> > > Please, any advice would be so much appreciated- it's killing me to see

> > > him like this. He's such a sweet, sensitive person.

> > > Thanks.

> > > Amber.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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> Dana, I have the B12 methylcobalamin pills, and I have kirkman B-complex

> pills. I started on the B12, but do you think that the B-complex

> would be better??

Just giving B12 will generally cause depletion of the other B

vitamins, especially B2. So it is best to give a multi B along with B12.

For me, mB12 causes way too much yeast, I only take about 1/2 tablet

and only about 2x per week. I take a multi B every day. The multi

does cause yeast, but not nearly so much as mB12.

Depression can be caused by deficiency in one or more of the Bs, so

you might want to keep the mB12 if it is helping him, and add in the

multi also.

Dana

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> The greatest thing about MB 12 is that is totally non-toxic even at

very high

> dose.

If I gave my kids more than 2000mcg mB12 per day, they would have had

major problems. They needed at most 1000mcg for one child, and

1500mcg for the other child, and giving it with folic acid was

REQUIRED, otherwise they would have MAJOR problems like crying and

head banging.

It also caused yeast, and for me personally, I won't take more than

1000mcg mB12 [with folic acid], otherwise it causes so much yeast that

my head feels about ready to explode, and I have to take LARGE

quantities of GSE to eliminate the yeast.

So, increase the dose slowly.

Dana

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