Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I've had this happen several times. For me it means I'm perilously close to diabetes, and it's a bacteria that's in my bladder and I'm eating too much sugar and it's getting out of control. Not a urinary tract infection, not anything that shows up on any test, for me, it just means too much sugar ( carbs, milk sugar and corn syrup, not refined sugar). virastop symptom? Ds's been complaining off and on of pain in his bladder area. He says it hurts all the time but gets intense after urinating. He has no burning or pain during urination. His urine is a light yellow to clear color. He has no fever. The first time this happened he was ill and I took him to the doctor. We thought he had strep but it was just a viral illness. They tested his urine and blood and both were normal. We weren't doing the VS and OLE at that time as a viral protocol but I did give him some to hopefully help with the illness. I'm wondering now if this is a side effect of the VS or OLE. Anyone have any thoughts on what this could be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I did some googling. The pain you describe is usually associated with inflammation or infection by either bacteria or virus (it's listed as standard with sexually transmitted disease viruses like herpes). If your doc ruled about bacteria and said it was virus, that is consistent. Giving the ViraStop and/or olive leaf extract is a good next step to control the virus. Was your doctor able to identify the particular virual problem? . - > Ds's been complaining off and on of pain in his bladder area. He says it hurts all the time but gets intense after urinating. He has no > burning or pain during urination. His urine is a light yellow to > clear color. He has no fever. The first time this happened he was ill > and I took him to the doctor. We thought he had strep but it was just a viral illness. They tested his urine and blood and both were > normal. We weren't doing the VS and OLE at that time as a viral > protocol but I did give him some to hopefully help with the illness. > I'm wondering now if this is a side effect of the VS or OLE. Anyone > have any thoughts on what this could be? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 The Doctor's (we saw two actually) said the sore throat/vommiting were viral but they said they didn't know what was causing the bladder pain. They said maybe it was dehydration causing concentrated urine. That didn't really make sense to me because he doesn't have pain while urinating only after. They didn't identify the virus. Their guessing and cluelessness is why we try to avoid doctors as best we can. Thanks for looking into it for me. Your explaination makes sense. We'll keep working though it. We have been taking it very slow with the VS and have a way to go yet to get to the theraputic doses. I have a question. You mentioned herpes. Does the herpes virus cause sores in the mouth or only on the lips? I'm starting to think that herpes may be the virus we are dealing with. He got sores in his mouth and on his lips the same time he got the bladder pain the first time. This latest time he got a mouth sore (but no lip sores) and then it was just 3 days later that he told me of the bladder pain. > I did some googling. The pain you describe is usually associated with > inflammation or infection by either bacteria or virus (it's listed as > standard with sexually transmitted disease viruses like herpes). If > your doc ruled about bacteria and said it was virus, that is > consistent. Giving the ViraStop and/or olive leaf extract is a good > next step to control the virus. Was your doctor able to identify the > particular virual problem? > > . > > > - > > Ds's been complaining off and on of pain in his bladder area. He > says it hurts all the time but gets intense after urinating. He has no > > burning or pain during urination. His urine is a light yellow to > > clear color. He has no fever. The first time this happened he was ill > > and I took him to the doctor. We thought he had strep but it was > just a viral illness. They tested his urine and blood and both were > > normal. We weren't doing the VS and OLE at that time as a viral > > protocol but I did give him some to hopefully help with the illness. > > I'm wondering now if this is a side effect of the VS or OLE. Anyone > > have any thoughts on what this could be? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 are you using any form of sulfur supplements or chelation? Any unusual bruising, nose bleeds? > > I've had this happen several times. For me it means I'm perilously close to diabetes, and it's a bacteria that's in my bladder and I'm eating too much sugar and it's getting out of control. Not a urinary tract infection, not anything that shows up on any test, for me, it just means too much sugar ( carbs, milk sugar and corn syrup, not refined sugar). > virastop symptom? > > > Ds's been complaining off and on of pain in his bladder area. He says > it hurts all the time but gets intense after urinating. He has no > burning or pain during urination. His urine is a light yellow to > clear color. He has no fever. The first time this happened he was ill > and I took him to the doctor. We thought he had strep but it was just > a viral illness. They tested his urine and blood and both were > normal. We weren't doing the VS and OLE at that time as a viral > protocol but I did give him some to hopefully help with the illness. > I'm wondering now if this is a side effect of the VS or OLE. Anyone > have any thoughts on what this could be? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 >>>You mentioned herpes. Does the herpes virus cause > sores in the mouth or only on the lips? Yes, in the mouth, on the tongue. It can look like canker sores, mouth ulcers, or the light-colored watery pustules. Here are some images: http://www.healthofchildren.com/images/gech_0001_0004_0_img0261.jpg http://www.herpespicture.com/? fuseaction=atlas.displayImage & im_id=1765 & at_id=108 & at_parent_id= http://www.emedicine.com/derm/images/16501650ZOSTERPALATEMINTZ.JPG http://www.visualsunlimited.com/images/watermarked/205/205896.jpg http://www.hekimim.com/merak_ettikleriniz/aft/aft.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 > are you using any form of sulfur supplements or chelation? Any > unusual bruising, nose bleeds? --- In No sulfur supplements or chelation. We are taking a break from chelation to work on the viruses. We've never tried sulfur supps but he loves garlic which makes me think they might be good for him. No nose bleed or unusual bruising either. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Yep, this is what we had, sores inside the mouth, that progress to cold sores on the lip that progressed to a cold sore right outside the mouth area with the Virastop. Interesting, but she can't take it anymore, all of a sudden the VS has caused an allergic reaction with blisters, that would dissipate with Benadryl, so know it is an allergy. Strange. Re: virastop symptom? >>>>You mentioned herpes. Does the herpes virus cause >> sores in the mouth or only on the lips? > > Yes, in the mouth, on the tongue. It can look like canker sores, mouth > ulcers, or the light-colored watery pustules. Here are some images: > > http://www.healthofchildren.com/images/gech_0001_0004_0_img0261.jpg > > http://www.herpespicture.com/? > fuseaction=atlas.displayImage & im_id=1765 & at_id=108 & at_parent_id= > > http://www.emedicine.com/derm/images/16501650ZOSTERPALATEMINTZ.JPG > > http://www.visualsunlimited.com/images/watermarked/205/205896.jpg > > http://www.hekimim.com/merak_ettikleriniz/aft/aft.htm > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Yes, unusual bruising. On my knees and ankles. virastop symptom? > > > Ds's been complaining off and on of pain in his bladder area. He says > it hurts all the time but gets intense after urinating. He has no > burning or pain during urination. His urine is a light yellow to > clear color. He has no fever. The first time this happened he was ill > and I took him to the doctor. We thought he had strep but it was just > a viral illness. They tested his urine and blood and both were > normal. We weren't doing the VS and OLE at that time as a viral > protocol but I did give him some to hopefully help with the illness. > I'm wondering now if this is a side effect of the VS or OLE. Anyone > have any thoughts on what this could be? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 >>Does the herpes virus cause > sores in the mouth or only on the lips? I'm starting to think that > herpes may be the virus we are dealing with. He got sores in his > mouth and on his lips the same time he got the bladder pain the > first time. For my #1, mouth sores are eliminated with a combination of B vitamins, selenium, and lysine. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 > > Yes, unusual bruising. On my knees and ankles. Bruising can be associated with deficiency of vitamin C and/or K. For my son, he was severely C deficient, which I corrected by giving lots of vitamin C for several months. Then while he was on maintenance doses, the Virastop and OLE were pulling viruses, and he started getting C deficient again, which caused bruises on his lower legs. Increasing his C has greatly improved this problem. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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