Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Melinda. I have been battling this for over a year now. My school in Ankeny Iowa says that it is because they are not FDA approved (even though they are GRAS which is generally regarded as safe according to the FDA). The state of Iowa Nursing Board has said many years ago that if something is not FDA approved and that if the school nurses do not feel comfortable administering them then they do not have to. My particular school nurse has done the research and would feel comfortable dispensing them but the district says they must remain consistent throughout the district so they will not allow it. As a result of the past year of going back and forth they are taking it before the policy committee board to see if it can be changed. This meeting is scheduled for September. It is soooo frustrating but I am not going away. He took them on his own for a year before they advised me that I was breaking the rules now for the last year I go every day before lunch to give him something that he can do himself. I will let you know what happens if you are interested. Hope you have better luck than I have had. Tami D. Why won't school nurses give supplements? We are working with a Dr. and an ARNP and follow their recommendations. Even with a written note from both we are having problems. Is there some information I can give the school that tells them they have to comply with dotors or medical professionals orders. Thanks Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 If they have a doctor's order or prescription, they already have everything they need. If they're still refusing, actually it sounds like you might need an attorney. My son's first school made things impossible, and we went to mediation and the people at that level - the mediator and school attorney - were wonderful. They were disgusted with the principal that they'd been called in on something so ridiculous. In my son's case they weren't letting him on the school premises during meal times because he was GFCF and making me go get him and physically escort him from the school prior to lunch being served, so he missed the rest of the day, and the school was being absurd. Don't be afraid to go above their heads, when necessary. Amy > > We are working with a Dr. and an ARNP and follow their recommendations. > Even with a written note from both we are having problems. Is there > some information I can give the school that tells them they have to > comply with dotors or medical professionals orders. Thanks Melinda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 > > We are working with a Dr. and an ARNP and follow their recommendations. > Even with a written note from both we are having problems. Is there > some information I can give the school that tells them they have to > comply with dotors or medical professionals orders. You can write it into the IEP. You can ask which doctor on the school's staff is overruling your doctor. Ask for the policy in writing. Other ideas here http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussionschool.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 > > This just infuriorates me for the parents who have to deal with this. I would be threatening them with legal action. My son takes his own enzymes and he's only going into 2nd grade! I wouldn't want the nurse to give them to him, because he doesn't need them with every meal or snack. He only takes No-Fenol and so it depends what he eats. I put a pill right into the ziplock with his food if he needs it; otherwise, he knows there's no " zoinky " food and he doesn't need a pill. I cleared this with the school secretary, who cleared it with the principal, who cleared it with the school nurse. Nobody questioned it. I had to fill out a form and show them the bottle. One time there was a substitute teacher and she went a little crazy on him when she saw him taking a pill. He was all bent out of shape about it, but I reminded him that she was looking out for his safety and doing her job. Otherwise, there have been no issues whatsoever with him taking his enzymes at school. I have a good relationship with much of the staff & administration; they seemed just fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Our school district requires a written order from a child's physician and the pills must be in the correct bottle with a current prescription. Since enzymes don't come in a regular " prescription " bottle, I decided to save the hassle by making the chocolate wafers. I found some GFCF chocolate chips in our local health food store and whipped up a batch for the freezer. My son (and his teacher) knows that he is supposed to eat his " chocolate candy " first. I could have gone through all the steps and forced the issue, but this is the easiest solution for me. It may not be the best solution for you and your child, but it works well for us. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Our physician just asked us to bring the bottles in for him and he wrote us a script, without hesitation for the school. I think this is an interesting issue because our school district's policy is that students can have over the counter medication without a prescription, but in the original bottle and labeled with the child's name and dosing instructions; yet enzymes are over the counter, and we need a new script for every little change in dose or manner of consumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Tami, I live in Ames, Iowa. Please keep me posted on what happens. Thanks, Melinda > Melinda. > > My school in Ankeny Iowa says that it is because they are not FDA approved (even though they are GRAS which is generally regarded as safe according to the FDA). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I will keep you posted. I get so frustrated because he took them on his own for a year before I was told I was breaking the rules. It's embarrassing to him to have to be pulled aside if I am 2 minutes late in getting to the school. I try to do it between subjects or between specials and going to class but I sometimes don't make it and it breaks my heart to see him look around to see if anyone is watching. It could be completely avoided if they let him take them by himself. The Ankeny administration office kept going back to some memo from the Iowa board of nursing which stated they couldn't administer anything that was not FDA approved. I asked to see the memo. They showed it to me and ironically it was signed by my mothers sister (she is the head of the Iowa Nursing). I read it and called her for an interpretation. She said that it is the nurse's decision based on whether they feel comfortable doing so. My school nurse says she has done a lot of research and based on that along with hers and my relationship she would be ok with giving them to him but then the district attorney said they have to remain consistent throughout the district. I don't know but we just got a new superintendent and I feel like I am starting at square 1. Oh well, as I told them I am not going away ever so I keep going. What's the situation in Ames? Tami Re: Why won't school nurses give supplements? Tami, I live in Ames, Iowa. Please keep me posted on what happens. Thanks, Melinda > Melinda. > > My school in Ankeny Iowa says that it is because they are not FDA approved (even though they are GRAS which is generally regarded as safe according to the FDA). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I would suggest contacting your state board of education. That way you are not getting an attorney, if you don't want to be adversarial, but you maybe can get some input and assistance mediating the situation. Our SBE has been extremely helpful in this way, regarding the diet/nutrition issues. I'm sorry they're making things so hard. My son's first school was like that, and it didn't change until we switched schools. Also, I'd meet the new supt. in person, if you're in a smaller district. My dad was a district superintendent, and a very nice and reasonable person. But he couldn't control everyone who worked for him and how they interpreted or handed down the rules. So maybe if the new supt. understands and can suggest some sort of liveable solution for you, then everyone under him will relax (and/or have to do it because he said so.) The bottom line is they absolutely should not be making you drive to school for this, that part of it is absurd. Even my son's school, who wouldn't let him on the school premises during meals because he was gfcf, had a nurse who gave him his enzymes (eventually, after I had to get an attorney just to get him there for mealtimes.) Amy > > I will keep you posted. I get so frustrated because he took them on his own for a year before I was told I was breaking the rules. It's embarrassing to him to have to be pulled aside if I am 2 minutes late in getting to the school. I try to do it between subjects or between specials and going to class but I sometimes don't make it and it breaks my heart to see him look around to see if anyone is watching. It could be completely avoided if they let him take them by himself. > > The Ankeny administration office kept going back to some memo from the Iowa board of nursing which stated they couldn't administer anything that was not FDA approved. I asked to see the memo. They showed it to me and ironically it was signed by my mothers sister (she is the head of the Iowa Nursing). I read it and called her for an interpretation. She said that it is the nurse's decision based on whether they feel comfortable doing so. My school nurse says she has done a lot of research and based on that along with hers and my relationship she would be ok with giving them to him but then the district attorney said they have to remain consistent throughout the district. I don't know but we just got a new superintendent and I feel like I am starting at square 1. Oh well, as I told them I am not going away ever so I keep going. What's the situation in Ames? > > Tami > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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