Re: Lots of crying on Virastop!

[Guest guest]

Sheresa, Are you using anything else with the virastop? What is

your yeast protocol? Are you giving her a probiotic? If it were my

child, I would dose her with activated charcoal, lots of fluids, and

give her epson salt baths. There is probably lots of die-off waste

that's not moving out of her system.

>

> We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the

last 5-6

> days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the

yeast

> and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out into

> unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant reason.

Is

> this some sort of viral response? Have others had this reaction

from

> their children on Virastop?

>

> She has done this on *occasion* in the past and I felt that it was

> caused from yeast overgrowth or phenol reactions, however, the

last

> couple days I have felt that the yeast was much better - she has

been

> sleeping thru the night - no silly giggling, etc.. But the crying

> episodes continue. Anybody have any thoughts on this - this is

really

> tough!

>

> Sheresa

>

[Guest guest]

> We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the last 5-6

> days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the yeast

> and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out into

> unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant reason. Is

> this some sort of viral response?

It can be. My son had this problem as his awareness of " reality " grew.

It can also be a result of yeast overgrowth.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi

We are using OLE along with the VS for anti-viral. For yeast I am

currently using No-Fenol, 3 caps Candidase, 5 drops GSE with each

anti-viral dose (no GSE with night dose). I also give 20-40 billion

multi-strain probiotic in between anti-viral doses (with meals) and 1

Culturelle with the night time dose of anti-viral along with the

Candidase and NF. We also do epsom salts baths every other night

or so. I should probably start doing every night while we are on

this protocol.

I have never tried activated charcoal, but have recently been

considering getting some to try. What is a good brand?? Thanks

for your input.

Sheresa

> >

> > We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the

> last 5-6

> > days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the

> yeast

> > and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> > heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out into

> > unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant reason.

> Is

> > this some sort of viral response? Have others had this reaction

> from

> > their children on Virastop?

> >

> > She has done this on *occasion* in the past and I felt that it

was

> > caused from yeast overgrowth or phenol reactions, however, the

> last

> > couple days I have felt that the yeast was much better - she has

> been

> > sleeping thru the night - no silly giggling, etc.. But the

crying

> > episodes continue. Anybody have any thoughts on this - this is

> really

> > tough!

> >

> > Sheresa

> >

>

[Guest guest]

How do you know how much charcoal to give?

>From: " G. " <gradygroup@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Lots of crying on Virastop!

>Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:59:27 -0000

>

>Sheresa, Are you using anything else with the virastop? What is

>your yeast protocol? Are you giving her a probiotic? If it were my

>child, I would dose her with activated charcoal, lots of fluids, and

>give her epson salt baths. There is probably lots of die-off waste

>that's not moving out of her system.

>

>

>

> >

> > We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the

>last 5-6

> > days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the

>yeast

> > and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> > heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out into

> > unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant reason.

>Is

> > this some sort of viral response? Have others had this reaction

>from

> > their children on Virastop?

> >

> > She has done this on *occasion* in the past and I felt that it was

> > caused from yeast overgrowth or phenol reactions, however, the

>last

> > couple days I have felt that the yeast was much better - she has

>been

> > sleeping thru the night - no silly giggling, etc.. But the crying

> > episodes continue. Anybody have any thoughts on this - this is

>really

> > tough!

> >

> > Sheresa

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not sure about brand but a health food store could give you a good

recommendation. What we use is from American Botanical Pharmacy and

it has been a life saver for us. It contains flax seed, apple

pectin, pharmaceutical grade bentonite clay, activated willow

charcoal, slippery elm bark, marshmallow root, psylium seed and

peppermint leaf. It comes in powder form and we mix it with

applesause. About the only thing you can taste is the peppermint

but I know they just came out with an encapsulated product. The

website is www.herbdoc.com and it's called Intestinal Formula # 1.

> > >

> > > We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the

> > last 5-6

> > > days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the

> > yeast

> > > and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> > > heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out

into

> > > unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant

reason.

> > Is

> > > this some sort of viral response? Have others had this

reaction

> > from

> > > their children on Virastop?

> > >

> > > She has done this on *occasion* in the past and I felt that it

> was

> > > caused from yeast overgrowth or phenol reactions, however, the

> > last

> > > couple days I have felt that the yeast was much better - she

has

> > been

> > > sleeping thru the night - no silly giggling, etc.. But the

> crying

> > > episodes continue. Anybody have any thoughts on this - this

is

> > really

> > > tough!

> > >

> > > Sheresa

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would do 3-4 capsules 3 X day until symptoms improve.

.

> > >

> > > We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the

> >last 5-6

> > > days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the

> >yeast

> > > and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> > > heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out

into

> > > unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant reason.

> >Is

> > > this some sort of viral response? Have others had this

reaction

> >from

> > > their children on Virastop?

> > >

> > > She has done this on *occasion* in the past and I felt that it

was

> > > caused from yeast overgrowth or phenol reactions, however, the

> >last

> > > couple days I have felt that the yeast was much better - she

has

> >been

> > > sleeping thru the night - no silly giggling, etc.. But the

crying

> > > episodes continue. Anybody have any thoughts on this - this is

> >really

> > > tough!

> > >

> > > Sheresa

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My older son has this type of emotional moodiness (emotionally

fragile?) as his general reaction to not feeling well. So it could be

her expression of 'die-off' or viral control.

.

[Guest guest]

Sheresa,

When I was using VS on myself, I felt quite fragile sometimes, like

I was " this " close to bursting into tears. I wasn't sure it was the

VS, because I can get that way from simply living the life I do

right now, but it maybe the same thing for your daughter. It wasn't

the pain or feeling particularly unwell that caused this, but it may

have had something to do with general increased fatigue.

I know how difficult the viral protocol can be. The yeast is a good

sign though. Hang in there. ((hugs))

Anita

>

> We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the

last 5-6

> days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the

yeast

> and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out into

> unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant reason.

Is

> this some sort of viral response? Have others had this reaction

from

> their children on Virastop?

>

> She has done this on *occasion* in the past and I felt that it was

> caused from yeast overgrowth or phenol reactions, however, the

last

> couple days I have felt that the yeast was much better - she has

been

> sleeping thru the night - no silly giggling, etc.. But the crying

> episodes continue. Anybody have any thoughts on this - this is

really

> tough!

>

> Sheresa

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter had a very emotional, extreme response to Virastop. I

am convinced it was just too strong for her little damaged system.

I stopped it and the reactions stopped. I am beginning to realize

how damaged my daughter's gut is. I don't think she can tolerate

strong proteases. Not to say that is it for your daughter, but just

to let you know another person's experience. It just helped me

realize what I need to continue to work on - basic probiotics, more

yeast stuff. BUt, no Virastop for us for awhile at least... Jen ---

In , " danasview " <danasview@...>

wrote:

>

>

> > We're on day 24 of Virastop and are at 15 caps per day for the

last 5-6

> > days. Still no illness, rash, fever, etc.- just fighting the

yeast

> > and having LOTS of what I call " crying episodes " . This is so

> > heartbreaking for me to watch my little girl just burst out into

> > unconsolable weeping 2-3 times per day for no apparant reason.

Is

> > this some sort of viral response?

>

>

> It can be. My son had this problem as his awareness of " reality "

grew.

>

> It can also be a result of yeast overgrowth.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Emotionally fragile describes my little one very well right now.

can you confirm to me that it is safe and/or beneficial to use

quite a bit more Candidase than the recommended 6 caps daily on the

bottle. I have increased her Candidase to closer to 12 caps per day

and using less GSE and it seems to be helping with the crying. I

assume this is okay/safe??? I *think* that maybe her phenol load was

above it's limit. Also, does the fact that lots and lots of yeast is

being created mean that there is probably viral die-off occuring, even

though I'm not seeing any illness?? Thanks

Sheresa

>

> My older son has this type of emotional moodiness (emotionally

> fragile?) as his general reaction to not feeling well. So it could be

> her expression of 'die-off' or viral control.

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

This higher dose of Candidase would be fine safety-wise, and if it is

helping, stick with it for several days to a couple weeks at least. 12

capsules actually puts you into the therapeutic range of dosing.

.

>>>> Emotionally fragile describes my little one very well right now.

can you confirm to me that it is safe and/or beneficial to use

quite a bit more Candidase than the recommended 6 caps daily on the

bottle. I have increased her Candidase to closer to 12 caps per day

and using less GSE and it seems to be helping with the crying. I

assume this is okay/safe???