Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 So now I'm concerned and a little confused! If sulfur is a problem for us, will chelation not work for my ds, or should it be effective but make him feel really bad and cause temporary regression? Thanks much, > > , > > All the chelators are sulfur-based. There are blood tests to measure sulfur. There is also another way to test, with food, is things like eggs or onions or broccoli or milk make you or your child feel worse your sulfur is probably high. If not, probably not. > > Good question. > > > > [ ] Re: Was Amy yasko, now I have a question > > > Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than > genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Chelation works for most kids, , as many as 75% report improvement in their kids, so chances are chelation will help. Most people do 5-10 rounds and then evaluate the results. Chelation does benefit many kids who are high sulfur. Some kids are better when they are on the chelators and some kids are a little more irritable and stim more when on the chelators. There should NOT be any big regression, just maybe a small temporary increase in some of his behaviors. Just make sure to give the chelator according to the half life, so dmsa every 4 hours, ala every 3 hours, round the clock. If you miss a dose by more than an hour, stop and wait for the next round. Give small doses to start, as little as 1/8 mg per lb, to start. Slow is better, better for you to be comfortable. You can increase the amount a little with subsequent rounds. Make sure he has E, once a day, and B's, C, zinc and magnesium 3-4 times a day to keep him comfortable. Don't get confused about all the talk, chelation works for the vast majority of kids, just a small minority do not benefit and have to look for other options. Good luck, [ ] Re: Was Amy yasko, now I have a question > > > Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than > genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 We have a family history of allergies to sulfa drugs and ours handles the dmsa and ala without a problem. Andy says the sulfur in the chelators is not related to sulfa drugs. Read this post: http://onibasu.com/archives/am/72378.html [ ] Re: Was Amy yasko, now I have a question > > > Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than > genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thank you . I'm basically in research and question mode right now, because our DAN doc has said no-way-no-how to starting chelation anytime soon. 's gut is a total mess... E. Coli among other things, inflammation markers off the charts, diarrhea for 5 months straight, leaky gut, etc. We are on SCD diet and antibiotics but no improvement so far. Doc does not want us to chelate until gut improves. But she says the really big Stop Sign right now is his zinc level. He has RBC zinc of 6.7 even after months of supplementation, she says it must be well above 9.0 before we can chelate. So we wait. And stuff zinc down the poor kid's throat every couple hours! > > > > , > > > > All the chelators are sulfur-based. There are blood tests to measure > sulfur. There is also another way to test, with food, is things like > eggs or onions or broccoli or milk make you or your child feel worse > your sulfur is probably high. If not, probably not. > > > > Good question. > > > > > > > > [ ] Re: Was Amy yasko, now I have a question > > > > > > Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than > > genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 > Sorry to chime in here, but I have a question about this! My oldest daughter who has several food allergies, and is extremely allergic to " sulfa " drugs needs to be detoxed! Is DMSA something I should consider? Thanks for any advice on this because this is exactly why I am afraid to start any chelation on her! Thanks, Troutman in Indiana I had the same question when we started down this path because of my own Sulpha drug allergy. I was worried about handling the chelators. (it hasn't been a problem) This is a good post on the subject http://onibasu.com/archives/am/11159.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 , Have you tried L-glutamine? That is said to be the best for a leaky gut? I also just read an article where they said that zinc picolinate was the best most absorbable zinc. You could chelate with Ala, alone. No zinc problems with it, easy on the kids and sometimes people find their kids guts do not get better until after they chelate. Just a thought. [ ] Re: Was Amy yasko, now I have a question > > > > > > Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than > > genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Sorry to chime in here, but I have a question about this! My oldest daughter who has several food allergies, and is extremely allergic to " sulfa " drugs needs to be detoxed! Is DMSA something I should consider? Thanks for any advice on this because this is exactly why I am afraid to start any chelation on her! Thanks, Troutman in Indiana [ ] Re: Was Amy yasko, now I have a question > > > Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than > genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thanks so much! I was hoping this would be the case! [ ] Re: Was Amy yasko, now I have a question > > > Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than > genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 >We are on SCD diet and antibiotics but no > improvement so far. Doc does not want us to chelate until gut > improves. My experience was that after 6 months of SCD, enzymes, various gut-healing supps and antifungals and antbacterials my son's gut was getting worse and he was reacting to every single thing he ate. The folks here gave me a shove to try a few rounds and he started improving the very first round. Andy says it's the metals that are keeping the gut messed up and the only way to fix it is to chelate -- and that turned out to be true IME. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Have you tested for food allergies? Probiotics? Antibiotics may be part of the problem. S S <p>Thank you . I'm basically in research and question mode right<br> now, because our DAN doc has said no-way-no-how to starting chelation<br> anytime soon. 's gut is a total mess... E. Coli among other<br> things, inflammation markers off the charts, diarrhea for 5 months<br> straight, leaky gut, etc. We are on SCD diet and antibiotics but no<br> improvement so far. Doc does not want us to chelate until gut<br> improves. But she says the really big Stop Sign right now is his zinc<br> level. He has RBC zinc of 6.7 even after months of supplementation,<br> she says it must be well above 9.0 before we can chelate. So we wait.<br> And stuff zinc down the poor kid's throat every couple hours!<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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