Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed NO mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A DAN Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been improving! Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to my understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate again? 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the urine sample was mishandled -- any other explanations? Listmates - I need your advice. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I would not stop. There are probably other things coming out that are causing improvements. Mercury is often the last metal to leave and tests are not always that reliable anyway. I've heard Andy say many times chelate, chelate, chelate, then keep chelating. Sheresa > > > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed NO > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A DAN > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. > > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > improving! > > Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to my > understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: > > 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate > again? > > 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test > shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the urine > sample was mishandled -- any other explanations? > > Listmates - I need your advice. > > Thank you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Was this Lab Corp or France?? Some have said Lab Corp was inaccurate. This should not be affected by your chelation schedule--porphyrins are a test of total body burden --not a result of a provoking agent. I have never heard a doctor advising to stop and wait for a build up of mercury!!! I am sorry to cause alarm--but that does not sit well with me at all!!! > > > > > > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed > NO > > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A > DAN > > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. > > > > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > > improving! > > > > Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to > my > > understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate > > again? > > > > 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test > > shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the > urine > > sample was mishandled -- any other explanations? > > > > Listmates - I need your advice. > > > > Thank you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Come on .. I'm not a doctor, but . " let the Mercury build up again " ?????? My guess would be that either : 1. Sample mishandled 2. Lousy Lab 3. Doctor doesn't know how to read results If it were me, I would go by visible results (observation), I agree with Sheresa that removing other metals can give great benefits. Many people have suggested that Mercury comes out later, but I think Andy doesn't necessarily subscribe to that theory. I have been following your progress and it seems to me that you are doing pretty well with the chelation, why would you stop ? Good luck ! Neil _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Stop Chelating? Should I let the Mercury Build Up and chelate later? Was this Lab Corp or France?? Some have said Lab Corp was inaccurate. This should not be affected by your chelation schedule--porphyrins are a test of total body burden --not a result of a provoking agent. I have never heard a doctor advising to stop and wait for a build up of mercury!!! I am sorry to cause alarm--but that does not sit well with me at all!!! > > > > > > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed > NO > > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A > DAN > > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. > > > > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > > improving! > > > > Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to > my > > understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate > > again? > > > > 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test > > shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the > urine > > sample was mishandled -- any other explanations? > > > > Listmates - I need your advice. > > > > Thank you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 > > > > > > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed > NO > > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A > DAN > > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. > > > > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > > improving! > > > > Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to > my > > understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate > > again? > > > > 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test > > shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the > urine > > sample was mishandled -- any other explanations? > > > > Listmates - I need your advice. > > > > Thank you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 > > > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed NO > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A DAN > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. > > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > improving! > > Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to my > understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: > > 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate > again? > In my opinion, no. The improvements that you are seeing are the real test. > 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test > shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the urine > sample was mishandled -- I think that explanation is most likely. See Andy's posts in archives about how sensitive porphyrins are. The sample must be kept on ice, must contain a preservative, must not be shaken, must not be exposed to light.... and then there's the possibility of sampling error.... J any other explanations? > > Listmates - I need your advice. > > Thank you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Its Labcorp -- and I agree with you and others -- keep chelating. Thank you. <hjmartingal@...> wrote: Was this Lab Corp or France?? Some have said Lab Corp was inaccurate. This should not be affected by your chelation schedule--porphyrins are a test of total body burden --not a result of a provoking agent. I have never heard a doctor advising to stop and wait for a build up of mercury!!! I am sorry to cause alarm--but that does not sit well with me at all!!! > > > > > > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed > NO > > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A > DAN > > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. > > > > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > > improving! > > > > Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to > my > > understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate > > again? > > > > 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test > > shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the > urine > > sample was mishandled -- any other explanations? > > > > Listmates - I need your advice. > > > > Thank you. > > > --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Chelation will not stop. Agree with you. Thanks for your input. Neil Willet <thecomputershop@...> wrote: Come on .. I'm not a doctor, but . " let the Mercury build up again " ?????? My guess would be that either : 1. Sample mishandled 2. Lousy Lab 3. Doctor doesn't know how to read results If it were me, I would go by visible results (observation), I agree with Sheresa that removing other metals can give great benefits. Many people have suggested that Mercury comes out later, but I think Andy doesn't necessarily subscribe to that theory. I have been following your progress and it seems to me that you are doing pretty well with the chelation, why would you stop ? Good luck ! Neil _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Stop Chelating? Should I let the Mercury Build Up and chelate later? Was this Lab Corp or France?? Some have said Lab Corp was inaccurate. This should not be affected by your chelation schedule--porphyrins are a test of total body burden --not a result of a provoking agent. I have never heard a doctor advising to stop and wait for a build up of mercury!!! I am sorry to cause alarm--but that does not sit well with me at all!!! > > > > > > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed > NO > > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. A > DAN > > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. > > > > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > > improving! > > > > Stopping chelation to allow the mercury to build up is contrary to > my > > understanding of the AC protocal. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. Should I stop chelating to let the mercury build up and chelate > > again? > > > > 2. Can anyone explain why he is improving but the porphyrin test > > shows no metals coming out? --- the doctor said that maybe the > urine > > sample was mishandled -- any other explanations? > > > > Listmates - I need your advice. > > > > Thank you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 > We recently received the results of a porphyrin test which showed NO > mercury coming out. The test was done on a chelation OFF day. This makes sense. No chelator, no mercury coming out. It would seem to me, that your child is not naturally excreting mercury. But that does not mean there is still mercury there. Or, the body might be clear of mercury, and it is time to address the mercury in the brain. A DAN > Dr. is advising us to temporarily stop chelating for about 2 months > to " let the mercury build up " and then chelate again. How is the mercury " building up " ? Is he exposed in his daily environment? If so, consider eliminating those sources as much as possible http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm > We have been using the AC protocal with DMSA and he has been > improving! The results give you the info you want. Chelating causes improvement, therefore continue chelating. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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